posted September 05, 2014 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
Say Venus is in Libra but is in the house where the cusp of scorpio falls in such a case Venus will take the characteristics of libra or scorpio?

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If I am understanding this correctly, this isn't even possible, as Scorpio is the next sign. If you have a house cusp which falls in Scorpio, then that house will either only cover Scorpio and end in Scorpio, or will also cover some of Sagittarius (some charts even go further than the next sign), but a house cusp cannot cover the sign behind it as well when it falls in a sign.

So I'm guessing you meant that your house cusp falls in Libra, but is also covering Scorpio. And your Venus is in Libra and in the same house which is covering both Libra and Scorpio. In which case, my answer is no. Your Venus is only influenced by Libra. But that specific house is influenced by both Libra and Scorpio, with Libra dominating it.

posted September 05, 2014 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
the first 14 degrees of 10th house is libra where venus is and the next 16 degrees is scorpio. for a total of 30 degrees of the 10th house. But since the 15th degree of the 10th house falls in scorpio that makes scorpio/mars its ruler. in that case venus takes on scorpionic tendencies or libran?

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Libran. This is because the house cusp still falls in Libra. It doesn't matter how many degrees the in each sign the house covers (that's a debate with House Cusps, but not a planet in a house). When it comes to a planet in a house, it's in THAT house, and is only influenced by it. The house being in Libra and covering Scorpio has nothing to do with the planet in a house. Astrologically, all planets in a certain house will manifest the same, regardless of which sign(s) rule them. What I mean is the 10th House being influenced by both Libra and Scorpio, has nothing to do with how that 10th House Venus will function.

posted September 05, 2014 02:47 PM            

the rules im following are:-
1. the equal houses system each being 30 degrees. and
2.the owner of the house being the planet whose sign occupies the 15th degree of the house.

posted September 05, 2014 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
shouldnt scorpio dominate it since a larger part is scorpio in 10th house and the 15th degree is in scorpio?

the rules im following are:-
1. the equal houses system each being 30 degrees. and
2.the owner of the house being the planet whose sign occupies the 15th degree of the house.

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Well this is another topic; House Cusps, not planets in houses, which is what I'm trying to say. (your Venus is in Libra and only influenced by it, not Scorpio).

posted September 05, 2014 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Well this is another topic; House Cusps, not planets in houses, which is what I'm trying to say. (your Venus is in Libra and only influenced by it, not Scorpio).

This depends on that astrologer's opinion. I personally think if a house cusp falls in a sign, I think that sign dominates it, regardless of how many degrees that house is in the other sign (and the house system is irrelevant, unless it's whole signs, as most the house systems still use cusps, unlike the Whole House system).

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posted September 05, 2014 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I personally think if a house cusp falls in a sign, I think that sign dominates it, [/B]

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posted September 05, 2014 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
im not getting the hang of this.. shouldnt the 9th house cusp be libra since in this case aqua would be rising? with 14 degrees of libra to the right of the house cusp stretching into the 10th house when the zodiac goes anticlockwise.

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I'm confused now, too. I thought Libra was in your 10th House Cusp? Lol.

Just post your chart in the Personal Readings section and I'll check what you mean and clarify

posted September 05, 2014 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I'm confused now, too. I thought Libra was in your 10th House Cusp? Lol.

Just post your chart in the Personal Readings section and I'll check what you mean and clarify

But yes, if you have an Aquarius 1st House and are using the Equal House system, then Libra rules your 9th House Cusp.

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posted September 05, 2014 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
yes now we are on the same frequency! what do you say now is venus scorp or libran?

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Alright, so I see that Libra actually rules your 10th House Cusp, as it starts there, and covers about half of Scorpio. Scorpio rules your 11th House Cusp. And your 9th House Cusp is ruled by Virgo.

posted September 05, 2014 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Alright, so I see that Libra actually rules your 10th House Cusp, as it starts there, and covers about half of Scorpio. Scorpio rules your 11th House Cusp. And your 9th House Cusp is ruled by Virgo.

Venus is influenced by Libra only, like I've been saying

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haha but you also said this??

posted September 05, 2014 03:23 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
haha but you also said this??

But yes, if you have an Aquarius 1st House and are using the Equal House system, then Libra rules your 9th House Cusp.

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Yes, but I see in your chart that you have the 10th House Cusp line in Libra. So how is this if you have an Aquarius 1st House?

posted September 05, 2014 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yes, but I see in your chart that you have the 10th House Cusp line in Libra. So how is this if you have an Aquarius 1st House?

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posted September 05, 2014 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
yes i have aqua rising 1 degree.

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posted September 05, 2014 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Huh? But your 10th House Cusp starts in mid Libra. So if you're using the Equal House system, and Aquarius is in your 1st House at 1 degree Aquarius, then the 10th House Cusp should start at 1 degree Scorpio, and your 9th House Cusp should start at 1 degree Libra. But from what I'm seeing in that picture, it's not the case, apparently? Lol.

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Lol yea thats why i was confused too. Wait this house system has one more rule if this makes things clear?

posted September 05, 2014 03:32 PM            

So all of this "what house does the house cups start" stuff is irrelevant.

posted September 05, 2014 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
^All of this doesn't matter anyway. Your question is if Venus is more influenced by Libra or Scorpio. And my answer is that it's only influenced by Libra.

So all of this "what house does the house cups start" stuff is irrelevant.

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posted September 05, 2014 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:

But, just to clarify it anyway, your 9th House Cusp is in Libra, if you have an Aquarius Ascendant, and using the Equal House system. There

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posted September 05, 2014 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
Right on man!

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I think you were confused with the Equal House system and Meridian House system. The Equal House system extends the house exactly 30 degrees always into the next house. So if you have an Aquarius Ascendant at 1 degree, then your 1st House Cusp starts at 1 degree Aquarius, and than your 2nd House Cusp starts at 1 degree Pisces. And so on an so fourth... But if you use the Merdian House system, and your Aquarius Ascendant is at 1 degree, then your 1st House starts at 15 degrees Aquarius, regardless of where your Aquarius Ascendant is. And then your 2nd House Cusp starts at 15 degrees Pisces. And so on and so fourth...

posted September 05, 2014 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:

I think you were confused with the Equal House system and Meridian House system. The Equal House system extends the house exactly 30 degrees always into the next house. So if you have an Aquarius Ascendant at 1 degree, then your 1st House Cusp starts at 1 degree Aquarius, and than your 2nd House Cusp is in Pisces at 1 degrees. And so on an so fourth... But if you use the Merdian House system, and your Aquarius Ascendant is at 1 degree, than your 1st House starts at 15 degrees Aquarius, regardless of where your Aquarius Ascendant is. And then your 2nd House Cusp starts at 15 degrees Pisces. And so on and so fourth.

The Merdian House system makes no sense, I would advise anyone to not use it, lol.

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The house system shows as follows
1st house starts from 16cap-16aqua
and 10th 16lib-16scorpio

posted September 05, 2014 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
The house system shows as follows
1st house starts from 16cap-16aqua
and 10th 16lib-16scorpio

with asc in the middle being at 1 aqua.

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My bad. The Meridian House system makes the Ascendant be exactly in the middle of the 1st House Cusp. So if you have an Aquarius Ascendant at 1 degree, then your 1st House starts at 16 degrees Capricorn, and ends at 16 degrees Aquarius. Such a weird house system.

posted September 05, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
My bad. The Meridian House system makes the Ascendant be exactly in the middle of the 1st House Cusp. So if you have an Aquarius Ascendant at 1 degree, then your 1st House starts at 16 degrees Capricorn, and ends at 16 degrees Aquarius. Such a s weird house system.

Anyway, you understand house cups. We are just confusing each other I think, haha. Just make sure you are using the Equal House system and not the Meridian House system by accident

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posted September 05, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by cherryvoltla76:
Itss the Vehlow house system which has the asce in the middle. neither equal nor meridian. im confuzzled now too.

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Haha, yeah. I thought that was Meridian that does that? Oh well.