posted September 06, 2014 10:56 PM            

I am just wondering if others have seen the mental chaos, the emotional drama and the complete instability - in a Pisces Moon person's life - first hand. And if you did.. How did you deal with it?

posted September 06, 2014 11:36 PM            

I *am* a Pisces Moon, who had to cope for about 60 years with a mother who was a Capricorn Moon (and Sun and I can't remember what else without looking; she had multiple Capricorn placements). I am also now in a relationship with a Taurus Sun/Capricorn Moon man.

My mother did not have the slightest clue how to deal with me when I get emotional, which can be often. I think she thought she gave birth to an alien baby. Capricorn Moon Man does know how to handle it by remaining calm and not putting on his judging hat, but that doesn't mean it doesn't upset him or that he likes to do it.

No, I don't have a mental disorder (I've actually been checked out by prominent psychologists and psychiatrists, mostly because my Capricorn mother convinced me I must be crazy).

I do tend to be attracted to Capricorns although heaven knows why. Many of my best female friends, and my grandfather who I loved dearly, are/were Capricorns. Maybe I/we do sometimes gravitate toward the stable mask Capricorns project to the world.

posted September 06, 2014 11:56 PM              

I think her having Pisces moon helped but I know she really wondered if he had a mental / emotional disorder. When he was in high school they put him in Special Ed classes for his mood swings even though he wasn't handicapped.

She had Gemini Mercury and Venus in Mercury and Mars in Aquarius, so I think all that air really helped her have the patience to communicate with him and question his logic in a non-offensive way. She also had Mercury conjunct Pluto which probably helped too.

posted September 07, 2014 12:04 AM            

But others seem fine without having to do a ton of work or becoming a hermit, even better than most, while still remaining intensely sensitive to vibrations (not to be confused with feeling rejected or seeing a personal attack everywhere "sensitive"). And strangely enough one Pisces mooner who is pretty stable (though she herself would say otherwise) attracted the emotionally damaged as boyfriends until she finally went celibate because of it (she just can't be attracted to them unless they need saving and she's unable to save them).

posted September 07, 2014 12:06 AM            

My Best Friend had moon in libra.

The patients that I know that are boderline none of them have moon in pisces; in fact none had a water moon.

Mental illness is really about the aspects; having a moon in a certain sign is not going to cause mental illness or borderline personality disorder.

I feel there is a correlation between an absent dad and emotional distant dad but still putting the dad up in pedestal and BPD.

This person is borderline with a bit of histrionic and other issues such as delusional disorder, paranoia and difficulty focusing:

posted September 07, 2014 07:39 AM            

Guess my Taurus Earth Stellium balances me out. Also NN is Virgo so I had to evolve to balance my nodes and emotional nature. Now I'm a rock and emotional issues hold no sway.

posted September 07, 2014 02:54 PM            

I think I'm fine....

But you people are making me wonder about myself!

Odette, my moon is exactly conjunct your Mercury if I recall correctly. If I'm "begging you for help," it's more like, I sense a thread has gotten boring and I want you there to say something Piscean.

Best wishes with your man.

posted September 07, 2014 03:45 PM            

He is the most well-balanced person I have ever met…I feel grateful for being with him<3

His pieces moon is sextile saturn very tight, trine pluto very tight, sextiles neptune and squares mars.

posted September 07, 2014 11:57 PM            

But many Pisces mooners are not given this basic grounding from an early age. They are empaths more often than not and have to learn a LOT about their own energy to prevent mistaking others' feelings for their own,, which can be very confusing.

So while they may be prone to such disorders due to mishandling their gifts and susceptibilities, it.s not necessary.

I still have to take 24 hours a week for myself to maintain an even keel. That makes life work much better. I have trouble in malls and other places with incessant roiling energy, and the energy everywhere today is more frenetic than at any time I can remember.

posted September 08, 2014 02:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Thank you everyone for answering this thread
Your posts are really helping me a lot. I'm sorry about my short replies, but I'm going through a lot right now

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I understand, and truly feel for you. I know my Beloved (who had a Pisces Moon himself) had an ex with BPD (among other things). This one left a mark on him (and by extension, affected me as well)... She has an Aqua Sun, Pisces Moon; Moon conj. Mars in Pisces/8th with Moon opp. Pluto by about a degree, trine Neptune, and her Mercury is also in Pisces/8th. Interestingly, Nemesis is also exactly conj. her Moon...

Although my Beloved wasn't the one with BPD, he did still attract someone like that, and I understood why. He was one of the most beautiful, loving, caring, compassionate souls...This was beyond difficult for me to witness.

That said, of course I don't think it's the Pisces Moon specifically, but rather those afflictions to the Moon (and Mercury) that could be an astrological indicator here. How those aspects are handled is also going to be influenced by a person's maturity level, among other things.

I have to say that if BPD is what you're dealing with, you must let go and distance yourself for your own personal health and safety (spiritual, emotional, mental, and physical)...I know it's easier said than done, but this is some serious stuff...All you can really do for now is love and support them from a distance; encourage them to get the help they need, and as long as it's safe, offer an ear to listen and talk. If they choose not to, then there isn't much else you can do but send loving energy/prayers their way, and move on. They have to want to help themselves, you cannot "save" them.

posted September 09, 2014 07:45 AM              

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Hi Odette,

I've experienced some of the things you mentioned, not only with a Pisces Moon ex long ago, but with heavily water-influenced men in general. As a water person myself I all too easily attract these types, and am unfortunately also rather receptive to their emotional drama. In the past, it never really worked out because at some point my self-preservation instincts would invariably kick in and one day, out of the blue, I simply had it and left for good.

If so much water is flowing around, it's essential to establish firm boundaries between yourself and the other person and not become too immersed in the other's emotions. Sometimes you need to leave them alone for a while. Too much empathy can become a bad thing, and it can even mutually amplify these undesirable emotional states.

I'm aware it really cannot be easy for a man to be so heavily water-influenced and thus often overwhelmed by emotions, which is the opposite of the traditionally strong and self-reliant male self-image. You as their partner can become an object of periodic hate for making them feel out of control. These guys, you see, would secretly like to be the lone cowboy, and they often despise themselves for their own vulnerability. I cannot help but empathize as it must be very difficult. And of course I do realize I have my own issues as well, and these situations are really a cosmic challenge to work through my own patterns of neediness, and learn to relate and communicate as an adult on equal terms with my partner as opposed to being in effect a child, mother, or savior.

Another thing that has helped me deal with such situations is postponing reactions (i.e., not shooting back straight away) and asking calm questions rather than making angry statements. "What did you really mean when you said xyz?" often gets a very different reaction than "How could you dare saying xyz to me?" Phrasing things in this form apparently gets them thinking and, quite often, makes them more aware of the destructive results of their actions.

Downright abuse I would not take though, nor would I advise anyone to take it. And "saving" another person does not work. Either they are aware of their issues, and willing to grow beyond their boundaries - then the partner can gently assist them in this process through verbal, and even better, non-verbal feedback; or they will have to remain where they are and resolve things on their own.

That pretty much sums up my approach to dealing with emotional drama coming from (watery) men. It can still be worth working through such issues with them if they are up to it, mainly because of the high level of growth and maturity oneself can achieve by co-operatively overcoming such challenges; and because of the unbelievable depth of a bond this raw emotionality can create with another person.

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Great post, Vajra!

Other than that, I don't think one Moon is "crazier" than another - not to mention "lunacy" lol is of various kinds. being excessively cold and detached/disconnected from emotions is another form of "lunacy" (with its extreme: psychopathy).

Pisces Moons are OVERSENSITIVE and "environmental sponges". They need to live with people and in environments that constantly remind them that the world is a beautiful place, a place of wonders and love. People and environments suggesting the opposite can have a devastating impact on them, translated into emotional problems, health problems, general depression and emotional chaos or blockage. It's the duty of Pisces Mooners to ensure this for themselves, as much as possible, by selecting their friends and by adding a Neptunian wondrous dimension in their life (like an oasis of beauty) if they live in a painful environment or if their profession puts them in contact with the ugly/painful side of life.

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posted September 09, 2014 10:01 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great post, Vajra!

Other than that, I don't think one Moon is "crazier" than another - not to mention "lunacy" lol is of various kinds. being excessively cold and detached/disconnected from emotions is another form of "lunacy" (with its extreme: psychopathy).

Pisces Moons are OVERSENSITIVE and "environmental sponges". They need to live with people and in environments that constantly remind them that the world is a beautiful place, a place of wonders and love. People and environments suggesting the opposite can have a devastating impact on them, translated into emotional problems, health problems, general depression and emotional chaos or blockage. It's the duty of Pisces Mooners to ensure this for themselves, as much as possible, by selecting their friends and by adding a Neptunian wondrous dimension in their life (like an oasis of beauty) if they live in a painful environment or if their profession puts them in contact with the ugly/painful side of life.

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I like how you explained it, its a balanced objective analysis. I work with the mentally ill and so far only one of the charts has a moon in pisces and none of the charts I have checked are heavy in water.

The one that does have moon in pisces if you check the chart her moon conjuncts chiron and this opposes her sun/mercury/pluto, her jupiter/saturn opposes her venus, she has lots of inconjunctions too and over all her chart is stressful and the only planet that only has soft aspects and is not afflicted is Neptune. This client has very severe paranoid schizophrenia and lives in another world; she is completely out of touch with reality and the medications don't help that much. Neptune appears to be the outlet for her afflicted moon and is the only planet her moon forms a soft aspect to.She has auditory, tactile and visual hallucinations. Her chart is so stressful that neptune been the outlet appears to work to her disadvantage.

Here is her Chart, TOB UNKNOWN: