posted September 11, 2014 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Tell me about it? 'Never saw Mars-Chiron that close before.

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posted September 11, 2014 12:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you have a knack for philosophy though? Does that count as airy-fairy? (Some philosophers are worse than others, I guess.)

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In my 6H Sag

Mars 8.37
Antares 9.25
Sun 10.56
Neptune 13.35
Great Attractor 14.02

I love Philosophy and learning, out of the box idea thinking. I get bored when I have to read heavily detailed or repetitive books. I don't even look at instruction manuals.

posted September 11, 2014 01:00 PM            

My Mom has her Asc/Dc at 1.18 and her Mc/Ic at 1.32 ... is that rare, given the natural square before adding the planets?

My dad has ..

Jupiter 14.33 opposite Retro Saturn 14.16
Chiron 10.12 opposite Retro Uranus 10.10

posted September 11, 2014 01:59 PM            

MC 6* Libra Q (72) Asc. 19*55' Sag

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posted September 11, 2014 03:55 PM              

Do you feel quite different from other people, with respect to the themes highlighted by the conjunction? Or do you stand out in some way, because of it?

The more and more I talk with people the more I realize just how different(WEIRD) I am, and I feel it makes me stand out. I am my sun/moon to a t. Alot of what I say seems to always surprise people, I value change yet I'm really conservative. I'm a "freedom fighter" and value fairness and equality yet don't budge on certain areas, I can be very black and white. My views don't fit in with the "norm" of today's world and I'm always, always having to explain myself which really ticks me off. I tend to just expect people to know what I mean without saying much which is impossible, we aren't mind readers!! There are A LOT of things in this world that I'd like to see changed. I look at every situation from all sides and go with the one that makes the most logical sense to me. I'm very hard-driving, a perfectionist I admit it, and don't stop until I've given my all in everything that I do. Which probably seems a little over the top and intense but it's just how I work. I will NOT stop until everything is as perfect as I can get it. "Practice makes perfect," is my motto.

To people who first meet me it always goes two ways, I'm either extremely cocky and/or full of myself or I'm the sweetest, most selfless and nicest person people have ever met. I go with my flow and don't ever stop being who I am regardless of where I may be. I will fight for what I believe in to the death! I'm THE optimist despite all of the crap I've dealt with throughout my life. I'm a dreamer fully aware of myself, I get lost in the weirdest of things. I get obssesive and hooked on things very quickly if I'm not careful. I'm REALLY intuitive, I always know when I'm being lied to or if there's something wrong. Karma is my biatch.

posted September 11, 2014 04:40 PM            

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@Delilah
Has that Mars-MC helped you attain your goals, do you think? And can you feel that Venus-Pluto?

@Moon Is Lunatic
Wow! Does your t-square aspect your ASC-DSC axis? Interesting chart.

@odalix
Thanks for answering my question. I can relate somewhat, with a 3H Pluto trine Mercury.

@violet
I don't know my brother's friend, just talked to her over email a bit, and she seems very kind. As I said above, I have a wide Venus-Neptune conjunction, and maybe you can relate with the trine...we can see (or just imagine) the best in people and focus on that. So we tend to be warm and wear that on our sleeves. I post a lot of hearts at LL and usually sign my emails with "Love" even if I don't know the person that well. LOL

@yellowelevator
Me, too, Mars conjunct Rigel

Unaspected sun at critical degree ---> 'never saw that before. How do you experience it?

@ReeceC
Do you have a splash chart? Your chart sounds kinda like mine, have you posted yours anywhere?

@babybull
You and your friend do weird stuff together?

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Haha that's awesome!

posted September 12, 2014 04:04 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Funny. I have Sag Sun/Nept conj (not as tight at yours, I think it's at 4 or 5) and although I feel the same about a lot of what you wrote, I have a real problem with 'abstract'. I like concrete. When things get to airy-fairy (as I call them. ) I get all confused.

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I hear you. And I definitely didn't mean the type of concepts that are hackneyed in nature. I tend to be cynical with those and don't pay attention.

I am speaking of concepts such as "words can heal","loving someone is loving yourself", "it is harder to be yourself than pretending to be someone else. But it is also inevitable" etc.

The kind of things that make you want to expand and wonder about them.

posted September 12, 2014 04:06 AM            

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@Aries23Degrees~
Thanks for explaining. One more question...what do you have at 23Aries? ASC?

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That's my Juno. I have Taurus Ascending

posted September 12, 2014 05:10 AM            

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WOW. Somehow I think I could feel your Mars-Uranus, because this doesn't surprise me. You just seem to burn a clean kind of energy. But that could also be sun/moon MP = MC.

Sorry to hear you didn't get your great (double great?) aunt' books...but how cool that it runs in the family. I would love to know if one of my ancestors was an astrologer.

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A clean kind of energy... I like that description and could definitely be my Sun/Moon MP=MC that you notice. I dont feel like my mars/uranus produces anything close to that. More like an over active sex drive (5H ruler mars conjunct 7/8H ruler uranus) and a temper that comes quickly and fades to inner turmoil even quicker. When I was younger it showed itself in raging temper tantrums, throwing things and slamming doors. I need a release for my extra stores of energy (Mars/Uranus square sun, trine MC, quincunx Moon) and it took me a long time to figure out that I ENJOY exercise and that it pays off not only physically, but emotionally as well.

Learning to deal with my Mars and its contributions to my chart has been quite the journey, one that I'm sure isnt over...

Oo and something I forgot to mention, mostly because they are both so slow-moving, was my exact Chiron/Saturn opposition. I know most people born around my same time have it to a certain degree, but mine is only 2 minutes from being exact. I think this is where my complete lack of appreciation and adherence to authority comes from.. I HATE people thinking that something like age gives them the right to order me around or tell me how to live my life.. experience is a whole different story. I respect experience.

posted September 12, 2014 05:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
That's my Juno. I have Taurus Ascending

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posted September 12, 2014 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Your juno is on my sun/moon mp/MC!

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posted September 12, 2014 08:53 AM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:

Yes it is a splash chart. I post it sometimes, but I take it down afterwards. Do you find that with it, you sometimes wish you had a chart with stelliums.

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YES...I get tired of being scattered.

Question for you, have you ever drawn up a composite chart between yourself and someone else, where there is a stellium? I know that's supposed to indicate a lasting match, significant partnership, etc...but I never get that, because my own planets are so scattered.

Also, will you tell me your basic stats?

See mine below...

posted September 12, 2014 09:07 AM            

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I am not sure what to tell you. I feel that when a conjunction is wide, it is easier for the native to be able to recognize it and rationalize it, but when it is very close, it's a lot more subconscious and instinctive. The person has little clue to what's happening, but it is very obvious to an observer. Ie, I have Moon conjunct Uranus at a 5° orb and I have few problems thinking about it and discussing it. So I'm not sure if I'm even aware enough of the Mars-Chiron conjunction to be able to verbalize it well.

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Great insight!

I'm going to remember that.

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One thing that is quite clear and that I do notice, though: Mars is my DC ruler, and my taste in men is decidedly strange. If they don't have some kind of stoic peace with the ugly fact of never being able to heal very deep parts of themselves, while still accepting life as it is, I just can't be attracted to them. I like a quiet, physical wisdom and heaps of stoicism in a partner. That's something I can offer for the interpretation.

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Wow that sounds hot to me, too. If you find extra men like that, please share.

J/K I'm married! And come to think of it, Chiron is a big player in our synastry and composite...though I never thought of it as an "attraction" asteroid before. Hmm!

posted September 12, 2014 09:29 AM            

Your mom's angles strike me as rare, though I am not qualified nor trying to play the "judge of rareness." I've just never seen that before. My Neptune's close to yours and my taste in philosophy/reading material is similar to what you described.

@lalalinda

posted September 12, 2014 09:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Sun/Moon 1 degree orb.
Uranus/Neptune 2 degree orb(not sure if it's rare..?).
Mercury/Saturn and MC/Pluto trine, exact(do they even count?).

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Hi Barbie, nice to see you around again! At this point I'm exhausted from wondering what counts as "rare" and what doesn't, I should have thought twice before tossing the question out, and narrowed it down. Anyway, you're so lucky to have Mercury trine Saturn (my Mercury square Saturn is jealous)
and I think I can see your Pluto/MC in what you described below: the intensity, perfectionism, "cockiness" as you put it.

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
The more and more I talk with people the more I realize just how different(WEIRD) I am, and I feel it makes me stand out. I am my sun/moon to a t. Alot of what I say seems to always surprise people...

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I can see that. Maybe sun conjunct moon just strengthens a person's instincts and makes them more decisive and passionate?

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
To people who first meet me it always goes two ways, I'm either extremely cocky and/or full of myself or I'm the sweetest, most selfless and nicest person people have ever met. I go with my flow and don't ever stop being who I am regardless of where I may be.

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"I just go with my flow"...yes, I definitely see that with you. And I admire that you express a broad range of emotions, from cocky to sweet, you just put it all out there. It's honest and refreshing.

posted September 12, 2014 09:55 AM            

You're a Leo? I wouldn't have guessed. Thanks for answering my question. Can I ask what your nodal axis is, and do any planets aspect that?

@socialgraffiti

WHOA to 8H moon-Uranus. Sudden, deep flashes of intense emotion compel you to make some landmark decisions in your life? (Wild guess.)

@LionFish

Thanks for elaborating! Maybe I was thinking Mars-Uranus is "clean energy" because Uranus rules an air sign. And if it's trine your fire MC...clean combustion.

Glad you figured that out about exercise. Do you do kickboxing?

posted September 12, 2014 11:50 AM            

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@Rie

Your chart is like a study mathematical precision! Kinda mind-boggling!

I agree with you about feeling even minor aspects strongly when they are super tight. My Venus is semisextile Uranus by 1 minute, and it matters. Same for my Mars quintile Saturn, it's a real pain in the neck.

I <3 your Chiron trine Pluto and have told you before, your healing ability really does show. Glad you are resting up and recovering, gotta heal yourself before others.

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Hi, Faith!

It's like a puzzle, really. Now that you're saying.

Yes, I totally believe in them, too. Especially with your 1 minute one! Wow, do you relate to descriptions about Venus-Uranus? Like wanting the freedom to be yourself, attraction to quirky types who don't always follow the "norms", so to say? Just one minute's got to mean something.

Ahhh. I thought the quintile was supportive? Do you still feel Saturn's restrictions regardless? Mars and Saturn aren't the easiest combo, true, but they can work. Mars is exalted in Capricorn, wasn't it? Makes for someone with a lot of stamina and who can work hard when they have to. If that makes you feel better?

<3 Thanks, it's cool that part shows through so well. I... can't really imagine myself not healing someone, but it's taught me a lot about, indeed, healing myself as well during the past few months. And in true Chiron style, it is almost always about something I couldn't do at the time or where I didn't get the support I needed. Not that I always like that. Sometimes I do feel a sort of - Pluto, I guess - resentment over having had to suffer alone/not reach as far as I think I had the potential for it, while others do get that mentor [=me]. But the more I resist, going all "I want to have that experience too!", the more people tend to literally trip over me needing help. :| Even strangers on the street. Just... sometimes, I don't want to be seen as the poster gal for "I went through it too and survived, and so can you". *sigh*

posted September 12, 2014 01:00 PM            

That t-square doesn't touch my Asc or Dsc. My Neptune is in 1st though. Saturn is my chart ruler and it's trine my Cap Asc. My Saturn is part of a t-square that has Uranus and Mercury.
If we count two 6-7° squares in I'd have a Fixed Grand Cross.

posted September 12, 2014 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
YES...I get tired of being scattered.

Question for you, have you ever drawn up a composite chart between yourself and someone else, where there is a stellium? I know that's supposed to indicate a lasting match, significant partnership, etc...but I never get that, because my own planets are so scattered.

Also, will you tell me your basic stats?

See mine below...

I have never had more than three planets in a house with anybody unfortunately, but I have had three(some people count that as a stellium.

I have Sun at 9°14' in Gemini on 9th/10th house cusp.
Moon at 29°24' in Leo in 12th house
Mercury at 14° In Taurus in 9th house
Virgo rising at 14°
MC at 11° in Gemini
POF at 9° in Sag in 3rd house.

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posted September 12, 2014 03:30 PM            

I posted a long reading about my Venus-Uranus on the meissieri thread. As if you don't have enough people taking advantage of the fact that you're a good listener!

You remind me so much of my other Leo/Snake/Libra rising friend who is a therapist. She has people coming up to her on the street, too! Maybe you could make $ from your listening skills. It's got to pay off for you somehow!

ETA: Oops! My Saturn is semisquare Mars, that's where the tension comes in.

@Moon Is Lunatic

Still having trouble envisioning all that but I believe you

I also have a fixed Saturn-Mercury-Uranus t-square: Leo Saturn, Aqua Mercury, Scorpio Uranus.

What are royal stars and how do I find out if I have them?? I want some.

@Reece

Thanks ~ your sun is conjunct my 7 Gem Psyche.

posted September 12, 2014 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@yellowelevator:

You're a Leo? I wouldn't have guessed. Thanks for answering my question. Can I ask what your nodal axis is, and do any planets aspect that?

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posted September 12, 2014 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you have any rare aspects in your chart, like an exact or very tight (1-2 orb) conjunction between an inner planet and outer planet?

Do you feel quite different from other people, with respect to the themes highlighted by the conjunction? Or do you stand out in some way, because of it?

Say, if you have Mercury tightly conjunct Pluto...do you get a sense that you are more intense than most of the people you talk to? Because few have the same aspect.

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How strange to have Mercury conjunct an outer planet so closely, do you know anyone like that?