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Faith
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posted September 09, 2014 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother asked me to look at his friend's chart, and I was surprised to see an exact Venus-Neptune conjunction, with about 15 seconds orb. It struck me that I've never seen an exact conjunction between those two planets before...then I realized that there are only a few hours per year when it actually happens!

Do you have any rare aspects in your chart, like an exact or very tight (1-2 orb) conjunction between an inner planet and outer planet?

Do you feel quite different from other people, with respect to the themes highlighted by the conjunction? Or do you stand out in some way, because of it?

Say, if you have Mercury tightly conjunct Pluto...do you get a sense that you are more intense than most of the people you talk to? Because few have the same aspect.

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I'm so cappy
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posted September 09, 2014 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you be interested in a supertight trine to the NN from Mars?

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ilunatique
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posted September 09, 2014 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Neptune sounds very sweet!, Venus gets to be paired with her higher octave. Two beautiful energies perfectly combined. If the aspects are good too, then it's a great harmonious gift which you can use depending by the house/aspects/etc.

I have Chiron conjunct Pluto all conjunct my sun in Sagittarius.

"On December 30, 1999, Chiron and Pluto were exactly conjunct (geocentric) for the first time since July 19, 1941."

It has an orb of 2 degrees, but its one of my dominant themes in my chart (especially because it all sits on my sun). It makes me very Plutonian indeed, and I always wished to help other people. This placement doesn't have any afflictions, it trines my moon, sextiles my mars/neptune conjunction and trines my NN.

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athenegoddess
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posted September 09, 2014 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born on a full Moon exact conjunct Neptune, I always thought it might be kind of rare..?

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Faith
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posted September 09, 2014 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Holy smokes, yes that is rare!

Do you get a sense of how it plays out in your life?

@cappy ~ Pretty good...I forget how fast the nodes travel, but they can't be trine Mars too often. Does it give you a boost towards your NN? Do you feel like you are "there" already, as in...can you relate to your NN placement strongly?

@ilunatique

Thanks for the info about Pluto-Chiron!

You sound waaaay smart for 14 years old~ my Sag son was born 12/99 and he's brilliant, too. (Not to brag of course )

Just looked at his chart and he's got Pluto-Chiron with less than 2 degrees orb. If you are a week older than him, you've got a tight Pluto-sun-Chiron stellium there. That IS rare!

I love that it makes you want to help people. I think that's the best possible outcome for any aspect.

He is also surprisingly empathic, considering he's a Sag sun-Pluto with a Cap moon. He'll give the shirt off his back even to his enemies (ie, his sister )

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athenegoddess
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posted September 09, 2014 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
^ Holy smokes, yes that is rare!

Do you get a sense of how it plays out in your life?


I just tried to do the math myself and gave up. It is extremely rare!

Yes I can see how it plays out quite well. I can say i don't have much 'veils' and see the other side quite easily. But this didn't happen for me until Pluto went over this config. I had a very intense spiritual awakening that was my reward for overcoming all i had to deal with since childhood.

Sometimes I feel like I'm not strong enough to handle the life I've been given. It has its intensely beautiful moments, but also its intensely painful ones.

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theunknown
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posted September 09, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I have venus-neptune conjunct exact (by 0.2 degree I think). I have mars sextile pluto exact too.


I'm not sure how these play out though. Venus is my chart ruler and although neptune isn't the strongest planet in my chart, I do feel the neptunian themes in my life. But this conjunction is in a stellium with mars and uranus so it is harder to distinguish the energy.

Some other rare placements I'd say are the sole dispositors.

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ilunatique
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posted September 09, 2014 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith & athenegoddess

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carm76
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posted September 09, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carm76     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born with a VOC moon conjunct Retro Chiron (less then 2orb). Not sure if that's rare.

As for Neptune, I have it almost exact the Great attracter in Sag a stellium. I don't think that's rare.

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I'm so cappy
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posted September 09, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@cappy ~ Pretty good...I forget how fast the nodes travel, but they can't be trine Mars too often. Does it give you a boost towards your NN? Do you feel like you are "there" already, as in...can you relate to your NN placement strongly?

My orb is 0.01. Another exact trine happened 7 months and a few days later and lasted about 40 minutes. Is it rare enough? As far as I know the nodes do a full circle within 18,5 years.

Yes, I can relate to my NN strongly but it's in the sign of my Sun and in the same house aaand conjunct their ruler which is also the dominant planet and that must have an amplifying effect. I'm determined to put my NN to use which hopefully results in something tangible (Saturn style, weee) or at least try. It's interesting that additionally Mars is part of another structure associated with destiny, it's the apex of a yod. They kind of overlap each other. I guess the Moirai have fun spinning the wheel of fortune for me


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mareaire
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posted September 09, 2014 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sun and asc are conjunct 1 second orb
not sure how rare that would be.

it's opposite my uranus 20 second orb

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ReeseC
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posted September 09, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any weight to have a direct node? I've been looking at 100s of charts for about a year now, but I only see about 3% of them having the nodes direct.

I know it's not an aspect, but I would like to know what that means.

Edit: thanks guys for explaining it. Out of everyone I have seen in my family, only myself, my bio dad, and step-dad have direct nodes. Maybe lineage influences it.

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ilunatique
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posted September 09, 2014 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ReeseC


Ohh, I felt this !

I have also realized that a DIRECT north node is pretty uncommon/rather rare.

95% of the people I have seen with a direct north node are in a way or another involved into occultism/astrology/etc, they are more spiritual/open minded/maybe just more evolved?
My mom which did natal chart readings for people for a living always sees direct north nodes over there.

I have a direct NN too
My mom has a direct NN too

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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 09, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sun-Neptune conjunction- exact with 9 second orb.

Its not much fun sometimes.

Moon squares Mars exact -with 6 second orb.But Mars is not an outer planet.

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mareaire
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posted September 09, 2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooo, i have a direct NN too!

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m.blade
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posted September 09, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All my family has a direct NN except me haha

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next to neptune
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posted September 09, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard that having mercury retrograde is pretty rare, along with pisces full moon(means opposite sun). Don't know why and this isn't aspects, but I just wanted to know if anyone knows why?

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mareaire
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posted September 09, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mareaire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I've heard that having mercury retrograde is pretty rare, along with pisces full moon(means opposite sun). Don't know why and this isn't aspects, but I just wanted to know if anyone knows why?


mercury retrograde isn't rare. it's happens 3-4 times a year for roughly 3 weeks. a lot of people are born during that time!

i don't know why pisces full moon would be any different than the other full moons...which i've heard are known to bring about labor/birth...thus a lot of full moon babies, sun-opp mooners.

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meissieri
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posted September 09, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, conjunctions to an outer planet that tightly. That's got to play out strongly, right?

I have a few super tight aspects myself. Oddly, many of them involving my chart ruler or Ascendant.
* Venus conjunct Juno by 21 minutes.
* Then those two are quintile Chiron by 37 and 57 min.
* And also exactly quincunx my NN by 15 and 5 mins. (!!) Probably why I'm still banging my head against the wall trying to put them together in some way.
* Then Chiron, in turn, trine Pluto by 33 min. Most people born in the same year as I am have it, but not all of them this tightly. Even more emphasis on healing and support through the nasty in my chart, I think. And how I see power being used and use it myself.
* Mars trine Saturn by 1.06 degrees.
* Then both aspect my Ascendant by 1.15 and 1.21 degrees.
* And Saturn also conjunct my IC by 42 mins.

... Oh and my Venus is also parallel my Descendant by 1 minute (!!!). I don't care how little is written about parallels to that angle, that's got to be pretty damn important. At first, finding out about astrology, I was literally shocked I had nothing in my 7th house, honestly, not exaggerating or anything - I'm all about pleasing others and tend to lose myself into relationships, finding so much support in them. Like, I thought my birth time had to be wrong, because no way I couldn't not have a ridiculous emphasis on the relationships house. So this totally explains it!

But to get back ontopic, yes, I totally believe you can feel them strongly and they're very important! Even with that bloody quincunx, it fits - I've always felt so confused about where exactly I'm supposed to go, what I'm supposed to do and be good at. Same with how that quincunx from Mars to my Descendant is supposed to work together.

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Faith
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posted September 09, 2014 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@athenegoddess

Thanks for your answer

@the unknown

Can I ask what your love life is like ~ do people say you make unrealistic or odd choices in love?

@carm76

Moon-Chiron happens once a month but I have no idea how often the moon is VOC. Hmm! Neptune-Great Attractor lasted many months...in the general population it's rare, but not in our age group (I was born in '76 as well.)

@cappy

Awesome ~

And you didn't even brag about your sole dispositor after it was mentioned! I wouldn't have been able to resist.

@mareaire

Sun-ASC happens for just a few minutes per day, adding up to a few hours per year, so that is rare. Combined with the exact Uranus opposition, that is QUITE rare, only possible once a year for a few moments. Amazing!

@ReeseC, ilunatique, and others who commented on direct NN:

Not sure what you mean about direct NN? I assume that if the SN sign precedes the NN sign, that's direct. Do you mean something else?

@Aries23Degrees

Sun-Neptune that close is super rare. Are you extremely intuitive?

@Rie

Your chart is like a study mathematical precision! Kinda mind-boggling!

I agree with you about feeling even minor aspects strongly when they are super tight. My Venus is semisextile Uranus by 1 minute, and it matters. Same for my Mars quintile Saturn, it's a real pain in the neck.

I <3 your Chiron trine Pluto and have told you before, your healing ability really does show. Glad you are resting up and recovering, gotta heal yourself before others.

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Astra
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posted September 09, 2014 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a lot of orbs that are between 0-2 degrees, but none of them are conjunctions

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theunknown
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posted September 09, 2014 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith,

I didn't necessary make odd choice per se. I am attracted to people from various ethnicities. I also have Venus trine Jupiter in 5th so traditionally, my chart would indicate lucks in love and romance. I am not necessarily unlucky. But I am incredibly picky. I don't see the point of marriage or children because I have certain ideal in mind about how a family should look like and I don't think I can match up to such ideal. Also if someone pursues me, I am not easily persuaded because even when I can see me being happy with the person, I don't really see things going any where. So I prematurely decide to not enter a relationship. If I were to be more realistic, I would give a person at least a few dates. But the truth is I don't. I don't date and don't see the need to be in a relationship.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted September 10, 2014 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
@Aries23Degrees
Sun-Neptune that close is super rare. Are you extremely intuitive?

Expressive rather than intuitive is the word. I try to decipher the energies I feel intellectually.

Sagittarius energy on Neptune "burns" the intuitive aspect of Neptune and can only only make sense of the energy intellectually.

Do I seem to have a muddled point of view or find it difficult to express myself sometimes? Yes.

Do i "feel" something and then when trying to express it, I am at a loss of where to start? Yes.

The intuitive aspect that would be present if Neptune was in water energies is lost.All that remains is the "judgment" and deciphering of the intuition felt.

I also seem to "get" abstract concepts in poetry, astrology or philosophy very easily.

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12muddy
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posted September 10, 2014 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Jessica2407
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posted September 10, 2014 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith

I have an exact mercury-venus-trine neptune and an exact neptune square with mars.

I don't know if it can be classified as rare aspects though.

Special cases would be an opposition of the MC to the AC albeit almost impossible since their mean distances are almost at square. But trines are rare.

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