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TempuraNostril
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posted September 28, 2014 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TempuraNostril     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology is a tool for which we all use as a key for gaining insight into our lives, into the very depths of ourselves, sometimes in ways otherwise difficult or perhaps even impossible to do purely without the help of another. Our intention is to gain some sort of meaning behind our current life circumstances, right? To understand why something is occurring in our lives and within ourselves the way it is, right? Very similar to reasons as to why people subscribe to a religion or faith. It gives them comfort. Knowing that this is a true and real reason behind their whole life, for bad and worse.

The comfort of subscribing to a set of beliefs or ideas as a means to fill some sort of existential void, or as a means to quieten some sort of existential crises. We've all been there. We're all human. This is the way humanity has been for as long as time knows. This is the precipice upon which the apparent "Piscean Age" sits upon.

Religion gives you the straight up 'z', but none of the x and y that makes up the z. Why? So that we don't think for ourselves? Possibly. That's not necessarily my concern here though. My concern, currently, is that the art of astrology does pretty much the same thing.

"Neptune is creativity", "the fifth house is love affairs", "Scorpio is sexual", this is this, and that is that, sort of doctrine. The aforementioned "straight up z". Life, nor humans aren't that simple. Having Neptune in Pisces does not necessarily make anyone who possesses this planetary position acutely psychic. No. But if it does for one person, what is the x and the y behind it? And why does this x and y specifically create this particular z?

Astrology should not be a doctrine. We are all individual human beings and how a planetary placement illustrates for one will most definitely illustrate differently for another. More emphasis needs to be places on the x and the y, the DYNAMIC, and WHY that dynamic exists. Rather than an indoctrinated generalised manifestation of the dynamic in question. No one receives true knowledge or solace from that.

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TempuraNostril
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posted October 06, 2014 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TempuraNostril     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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PixieJane
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posted October 06, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Instead of bumping you should link it directly to the thread that made you want to bump it. For example, "Beware of that generalization, more here. "

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Odette
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posted October 06, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Our intention is to gain some sort of meaning behind our current life circumstances, right? To understand why something is occurring in our lives and within ourselves the way it is, right

Intentions vary.
My intention is to psychoanalyse people in order to better understand where they are coming from and what it's like to be in their shoes.
That's what attracted me to astrology most of all.
I don't feel like I need much help in understanding what's going on within myself.

I see astrology as similar to psychology - not religion. The information is useful in day to day interaction. Religious teachings are not very useful from my perspective. They are often referring to the "collective", not the individual.

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TempuraNostril
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posted October 06, 2014 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TempuraNostril     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Instead of bumping you should link it directly to the thread that made you want to bump it. For example, "Beware of that generalization, more here. "

This isn't particularly directed at a thread on here, it's more a general rant&rave kind of thing, otherwise I'd make a post directly. If I felt compelled to anyway.

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TempuraNostril
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posted October 06, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TempuraNostril     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Intentions vary.
My intention is to psychoanalyse people in order to better understand where they are coming from and what it's like to be in their shoes.
That's what attracted me to astrology most of all.
I don't feel like I need much help in understanding what's going on within myself.

I see astrology as similar to psychology - not religion. The information is useful in day to day interaction. Religious teachings are not very useful from my perspective. They are often referring to the "collective", not the individual.


This is a part of my intention as well. I meant "ourselves" in more of a fourth person context.

I believe that a lot can be gleaned from a natal chart, through its symbolism, in much the same way tarot cards for example are used.

I just don't think it's helpful to the individual to be told that a specific aspect specifically correlates to some sort of generalisation. Like I've previously said, more emphasis needs to be placed upon the raw dynamic represented, not the generalised manifestation of it.

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Leorpio
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posted October 06, 2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is called a Spiritual science for a reason , but I see where you're coming from. Cookie cutter scenarios almost never work and generalizations absolutely never work :P

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