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Topic: secret enemies in the workplace?
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 29, 2014 10:31 PM
  
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have dealt with this in every single job I have had. The most recent incident got me fired from my job, this happened just the other day. Luckily I also have jupiter in the 6th, Sag Midheaven, and jupiter trines my midheaven so I have luck on my side. I got a new job that pays 2 more dollars an hour today so i'm not too bummed out. But it's really a double edged sword.
Sorry to hear that, Aqua. Glad you found a better job. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted September 29, 2014 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Malarkey.
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ifaf
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posted September 29, 2014 10:36 PM
Eh, it does happen that people end up in these situations by pure "coincidence". Of course he may be doing something to cause it. But it's also possible for the "energy" you guys talk about to be just that; he gets a job, does his thing, and people with the tendency to undermine other people's work for their own benefit see him as the perfect candidate for this. Maybe they just subconsciously see something, like the way he holds himself, for example if his shoulders are too low and they 'sense' it as weakness, maybe he has acne and they see him as the younger, unexperienced co-worker, maybe he has a sweaty, weak handshake. These things don't call for some soul-searching on his part. They don't call for a week of wallowing in self-pity alone in the dark either, but he's not doing that. He already has a new job.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 29, 2014 10:36 PM
It's bull when someone undermines you at every turn.Especially when it is someone you never did a thing to. Ganging up on Aquaguy won't change the hard cold facts. No matter how hard you try to bury the Truth. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9893
From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 29, 2014 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I'm gonna have to agree with TempuraNostril. This is ultimately YOUR energy that is influencing how people respond to you. If this is something you've faced in every job you've had (comprised of the many individuals within the given work place) it's unhelpful and quite unreasonable to assume that all of them are simply d*cks for no reason. I'm not sure if TempuraNostril would like me to speak on her/his behalf but what we're trying to say is that there is something about your energy that you may not be conscious about that contributes to this. I can see how Sun conjunct Saturn in the 12th and an Mars-MC opposition could play out in your scenario. Does this mean that you are *doing* something wrong or that you deserve it? No, of course not. But when you're dealing with the 12th house, you're dealing with the house of the subconscious, the house of all things hidden (including enemies) and the house of self-undoing. What lies within the perimeters of that house is not easily recognizable and discernible at face value or even with some moderate level of introspection. It requires a strong level of attunement into the implicit, subconscious psychological tendencies and habits that you entertain without your conscious knowledge. Self-awareness is the only way to battle this, to be extremely attuned to your inner states and the inner workings of your psyche otherwise you will find that you are constantly at odds with yourself and others for reasons unbeknownst to you. Sun (ego) conjunct Saturn (duty, responsibility, work, discipline, structure)in the 12th means that this part of your ego is obscure to the external world. It manifests only in your private mental and spiritual territories, in the very depths of your mind. Every house is a terrain by which certain energies can be easily accessed by yourself and other except for the 12th, whose only means of access is time, introspection, and awareness. With the Sun-Saturn aspect in the 12th, your sense of duty and obligation is hidden, muddled, and obscured. That placement brings about mistrust as it might give people the impression that you are hiding something and with Saturn in the mix within the confines of a workplace, this makes it even more alarming as people think you might have a secret agenda or that you don't contribute as much as they do because your effort (Saturn) is hidden or inaccessible. Are you very private about your dealings at work? Do you like to do things alone and within your own personal confines? Explain, as objectively as you can, how you operate in the workplace. Again, we're trying to help you and I in no way believe that you deserve the hostility that you are receiving. It's just that 12th house is extremely difficult to work with at times. I have Mars sq MC (even worse since with the opposition there's more room growth and management) and I can assure you it has never affected my public image but rather my own indecision when it comes to matters of career. Sorry for how long this is... Hope this message finds you well.
I do tend to keep to myself most of the time, but why is that suspicious? People who have secret agendas usually don't do that, they try to fool you into thinking they are your friends. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted September 29, 2014 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
It's bull when someone undermines you at every turn.Especially when it is someone you never did a thing to. Ganging up on Aquaguy won't change the hard cold facts.
"Ganging up"? You define what I said as "ganging up"? Are you serious? Of course it's bull when people treat you like sh*t and always undermine you. It sucks and no one can ever argue otherwise but if we place our bets on other people before ourselves we'll always lose. I would rather offer him a solution that he can actually work on to cure the situation than to sit here and offer my useless sympathy. I'm actually trying to help. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9893
From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 29, 2014 10:54 PM
PisceanDream,
I don't have a beef with what you or the other poster was saying. I was just getting the impression that ya'll were coming at me with the law of attraction junk, which i'm not a fan of at all. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 29, 2014 11:01 PM
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I do tend to keep to myself most of the time, but why is that suspicious? People who have secret agendas usually don't do that, they try to fool you into thinking they are your friends. [/B][/QUOTE]With your Sun conjunct Saturn in the 12th, what you see as you "keeping to yourself" can manifest to others as you hiding something, some people might even interpret some of your self-expression (alongside the MC-Mars opposition) as passive-aggressive. They might think that you dislike them and showcase this by keeping to yourself. Of course, I don't believe you have some evil agenda or anything. But the way this comes off to people, especially with an energy as fundamental and core to your personality as the Sun is in the 12th with that Saturn conjunction (because it's so important in the workforce), can be suspicious (long sentence, sorry). They might think... "Why does he always keep to himself? Does he not like us? He thinks he's better than us?" etc... My suggestion/advice is try to be more open and social at work. Try not to keep to yourself as much. Let this be an experiment for you to test. I am genuinely and honestly interested in finding a practical solution to your issue. I know how frustrating it must be to go through what you're going through and I could honestly just nod in agreement that these aspects contribute to how people at work treat you but I honestly think it would be much better for you to take matters into your hands so that you can have control over your own situation and not let anyone be mean or rude to you. I just got upset because I felt like my intentions and my honest attempt to help you was squandered by this assumption that I'm ganging up on you or trying impose a belief onto you. Anyway, let me know what you think. I hope your new job will have a much better atmosphere to begin with. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9893
From: Uranus
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 29, 2014 11:04 PM
Ugh but that means I would have to be social. Lol I will try I guess.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
Knowflake Posts: 10180
From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God
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posted September 29, 2014 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Ugh but that means I would have to be social. Lol I will try I guess.
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PisceanDream
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Registered: Jun 2014
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posted September 29, 2014 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Ugh but that means I would have to be social. Lol I will try I guess.
That'ssssssss the spirit!!!! 
I will be expecting an update, sir. Don't be surprised if I bump the thread in a few weeks time.  All the best! IP: Logged |
FireMoon
Knowflake Posts: 2016
From: Minnesota
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted September 30, 2014 06:17 PM
Hmm your jupiter in 6th is rx right? Where's the ruler of your 6th? I'm starting to think jupiter rx can cause serious problems or bad luck in whatever house it's in... With mine in 2nd it's like yeah money has always been around somehow when I really need it, but I've still dealt with my share of financial issues and I get by but can't really see the light at the end of the (long term) tunnel yet.. It's like that saying about dying of thirst in the ocean or whatever lolAnyway Jupiter rx brings delayed gratification though, it can be overcome fully with time I believe... IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 9029
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 01, 2014 08:40 AM
Well it's best not to think about secret enemies or anything like that and definitely don't talk about it at work. People tend to think of it as being paranoid. Just put the happy smile on your face, focus on the work and plan rewarding experiences on your days off to unwind.IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 1196
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 01, 2014 10:46 AM
What's Pluto doing in your chart? Pluto can act like a total douchebag. Pluto certainly likes drama. IP: Logged |
Plutonian_Gal8
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Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 02, 2014 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by TempuraNostril:
How on earth is just simply knowing the aspect going to solve anything?!?!?!,!,Your astrological chart is a complete reflection of you, of who you are. As above so below, so within so without. This dynamic that is repeating time and time again, has one common factor. You. The dynamic at work with your co-workers is a reflection of a dynamic within you that you're just beginning to become conscious or aware of (since you do know that you have repeated problems with co workers).. Dig deeper
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