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Topic: Nobel Peace Prize Winner Malala Yousafzai
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1915 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 17, 2014 08:49 PM
In my short blog post I discuss what her chart shows for future potential political leadership: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/on-malalas-future/ ------------------ Expert rectification, professional astrology consults http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/ Complete desriptions of all Rising Signs: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 17, 2014 10:46 PM
I have to give some respect to this girl. I don't know what she will or will not do in the future but just to what she has done so far. If you just watch her speak, you can see how strong she is with what she stands for. Especially to come from the country and background she comes from and what she's been through, it is really fighting against all odds. Her belief and furthermore her strength in her belief is outstanding. What she's done so far has paved some steps and is some part of brining change. Brave individual.It is interesting that her chart makes some really good points to all this. Look at her Sun conjunct ASC in Cancer + Moon conjunct Mars on IC. This is a strong willed individual who fights for her beliefs. Interesting that Jupiter falls in 8th as well, she survived some life threatening situations. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69003 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 17, 2014 10:49 PM
I just read an article about her. It may not be what it seems but I will leave it at that------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 17, 2014 10:56 PM
^ Oh really Ami? Well , Im always open to new knowledge so whats it about?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69003 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 17, 2014 11:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by violet7887: ^ Oh really Ami? Well , Im always open to new knowledge so whats it about?
I don't want to discuss it on here but things are not always what they seem
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 17, 2014 11:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I don't want to discuss it on here but things are not always what they seem
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 12:38 AM
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Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 18, 2014 04:51 AM
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Davy333 Knowflake Posts: 106 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 05:22 AM
Ami Anne... I have read something very similar. Not sure where or what you read... But indeed... some things aren't what they seem. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 69003 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 18, 2014 08:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Davy333: Ami Anne... I have read something very similar. Not sure where or what you read... But indeed... some things aren't what they seem.
Thank you, Davy. I hate to always have to be the one to see under the surface of things
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violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 12:38 PM
So I have went to find some of the "other" things some of you might be reading. With all the crap that's out there, anything could be anything. Look at this girl talk. Look at all the positive points she constantly makes. Regardless of anything that could be (or not) in the background here this girl herself is just trying to spread positivity. People who stand up for something are often faced with a lot of scrutiny. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 18, 2014 01:36 PM
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1915 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 02:18 PM
The most common 'other' story relating to Malala Yousafzai comes as an accusation of sorts that she is young, naive and being used by white westerners as a way to highlight the supposed evils of Islam, some speculate for further justification for military action against certain Islamic countries. Where do you think such accusations come from? Those in Pakistan who benefit from the status quo, who don't want oppression of women there being highlighted for any international scrutiny. From the paranoid western right/left with a poor understanding of politics, specifically individuals who are not paying attention to the words and actions by her and her father. Such accusations could only come after she was recognized internationally because she had to be taken out of her country to the UK for medical treatment to recover from the assassination attempt. To say that because she is young and 'naive' and doesn't understand everything going on around her, therefore she must be being manipulated in some way for western benefit is to look right past her parents and their strong encouragement of her right to an education. Its an attempt at mis-direction distraction by the status quo in Pakistan. And how can she be a puppet 'used to justify further war' against Islamic countries when her documented words in public repeat the core message of NON-VIOLENCE?! She has faced down U.S. Pres. Barack Obama and told him to stop drone attacks in Pakistan. Anyone can find speculation on the web coming from some corner with an agenda of status quo. Look at the facts the public posture she has taken in line with the legacy of non-violent leaders like Gandhi, Bacha Khan and Mother Teresa. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai Referring to her Taliban would-be assassin she said: "Even if there was a gun in my hand and he was standing in front of me, I would not shoot him. This is the compassion I have learned from Mohamed, the prophet of mercy, Jesus Christ and Lord Buddha." You cannot build a case for xenophobia and extension of war by a supposed 'puppet' who is outspoken against it and who challenges that very system of mechanized violence. Some people have great difficulty looking into the face, into the eyes of youthful, truth-speaking, courageous power. It pricks their conscience. They look away for a comfortable rationalization, an alternate thought than to be challenged to stand up on principle at the possible cost of death. That doesn't change what we are seeing. So what is in her chart that supports her being manipulated as a puppet? Its not there. The inborn tendencies in the chart indicate: - self-assurance within sensitivity and uncertainty: Sun conj/parallel Asc. - a strong father figure who pushes her on: Sun square Saturn. - strong ambition and the capacity to take control: same aspect + Moon conjunct Mars. - innate, powerful communicative ability and tendency to speak truth to power: grand trine of Mercury-MC-Pluto. - someone who may have unfair rumors, insinuations, hateful words/actions aimed at her, even producing physical injuries: Chiron square Asc. What is indicated is strength, not naive manipulability. Besides, whatever her youth has not yet educated her about, she will learn in ordinary process of development plus as a result of the extraordinary circumstance and experiences she has had. I believe her to be a reincarnation of a pretty significant historical figure in that region, although I do not know enough about the history there to even speculate as to who. She shows all the signs of past life experience in positions of leadership. Read the real story: http://www.ted.com/talks/ziauddin_yousafzai_my_daughter_malala/transcript?language=en Watch the speeches by her and her father: http://www.ted.com/talks/ziauddin_yousafzai_my_daughter_malala?language=en http://www.ted.com/talks/ziauddin_yousafzai_my_daughter_malala?language=en Read Malala's own words: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-14420886 http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai These all give great hope for future generations of oppressed and abused girls and young women in places like Pakistan. They have spoken out at continued risk of death. Are you going to celebrate it with them and support them or cast doubt? ------------------ Expert rectification, professional astrology consults http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/ Complete desriptions of all Rising Signs: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/ IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6569 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 18, 2014 02:39 PM
Saturn in H10, albeit a "weak" one, H10 ruler conj Moon, H7 ruler in H10 - Sun conj ASC, from H12. Interesting.
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I just read an article about her. It may not be what it seems but I will leave it at that
So you know how to read connected letters. Good for you. *Kathryn Hepburn's voice* It's really simple, either link it or gtfo. What's the purpose of your comment without the article? Soooo mature. IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 18, 2014 03:10 PM
She reminds me a little of Anne Frank, young women who have the minds of a elder. It is really miraculous to watch young people so intelligent and mature. She has decades to blossom and produce great works... I'm old and still don't know what to do with my life. It makes her life even more impressive to me. I guess we all can learn from youth and the old. Age is not a monopoly on inspiration and aspiration. IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 18, 2014 03:23 PM
Every great figure come with some level of hype. But they all are people with flaws. Their talents are undeniable but we should not sanctify them. Ghandi and mother Theresa also have their negative sides. But the strength, the will, the talent are all there. Im not surprised she has 10th saturn. Her interview with Jon Stewart was good IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 3419 From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2014 03:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: The most common 'other' story relating to Malala Yousafzai comes as an accusation of sorts that she is young, naive and being used by white westerners as a way to highlight the supposed evils of Islam, some speculate for further justification for military action against certain Islamic countries. Where do you think such accusations come from? Those in Pakistan who benefit from the status quo, who don't want oppression of women there being highlighted for any international scrutiny. From the paranoid western right/left with a poor understanding of politics, specifically individuals who are not paying attention to the words and actions by her and her father. Such accusations could only come after she was recognized internationally because she had to be taken out of her country to the UK for medical treatment to recover from the assassination attempt. To say that because she is young and 'naive' and doesn't understand everything going on around her, therefore she must be being manipulated in some way for western benefit is to look right past her parents and their strong encouragement of her right to an education. Its an attempt at mis-direction distraction by the status quo in Pakistan. And how can she be a puppet 'used to justify further war' against Islamic countries when her documented words in public repeat the core message of NON-VIOLENCE?! She has faced down U.S. Pres. Barack Obama and told him to stop drone attacks in Pakistan. Anyone can find speculation on the web coming from some corner with an agenda of status quo. Look at the facts the public posture she has taken in line with the legacy of non-violent leaders like Gandhi, Bacha Khan and Mother Teresa. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai Referring to her Taliban would-be assassin she said: "Even if there was a gun in my hand and he was standing in front of me, I would not shoot him. This is the compassion I have learned from Mohamed, the prophet of mercy, Jesus Christ and Lord Buddha." You cannot build a case for xenophobia and extension of war by a supposed 'puppet' who is outspoken against it and who challenges that very system of mechanized violence. Some people have great difficulty looking into the face, into the eyes of youthful, truth-speaking, courageous power. It pricks their conscience. They look away for a comfortable rationalization, an alternate thought than to be challenged to stand up on principle at the possible cost of death. That doesn't change what we are seeing. So what is in her chart that supports her being manipulated as a puppet? Its not there.
I totally agree. Why does everything have to be turned into a conspiracy theory? You read one article and now all of a sudden you are 100% convinced there is a false agenda? I don't get this- we should be celebrating what this strong, brave young woman went through and what she is doing now. Looking under a surface right now- can't find anything. IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1737 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 18, 2014 03:42 PM
Actually there may be obvious psychological reasons behind the tendency of some professional rumour spreaders to cast doubt on such courageous figures as her. She probably makes them painfully aware of their own insignificance.IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1592 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2014 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by BellaFenice: I totally agree. Why does everything have to be turned into a conspiracy theory? You read one article and now all of a sudden you are 100% convinced there is a false agenda? I don't get this- we should be celebrating what this strong, brave young woman went through and what she is doing now. Looking under a surface right now- can't find anything.
Sometimes I think the internet is a very bad thing. Anything can (and does) get written and put online without any scrutiny or investigation what so ever yet they act as they are in fact journalists instead of people just writing their (sometimes very ill informed) opinions. EVERYTHING is a conspiracy these days. I feel people have lost their ability to think and kids are no longer being taught how to filter information.
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8495 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 18, 2014 04:51 PM
The strange mix of gullibility and paranoia isn't a generational thing. It defines American history and perhaps world history. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9753 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 18, 2014 05:15 PM
quote: Some people have great difficulty looking into the face, into the eyes of youthful, truth-speaking, courageous power. It pricks their conscience. They look away for a comfortable rationalization, an alternate thought than to be challenged to stand up on principle at the possible cost of death. That doesn't change what we are seeing.
Her message gives hope to the future of her generation. ------------------ Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged. Rumi IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 11674 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 05:52 PM
Looking at her chart - 1. What does it mean if you have a 12th house planet conjunct the ASC? Is it somewhat saved from 12th house issues? 2. She has Moon trine Uranus - her need for equality (Moon in Libra, and equality for women specifically, at that) is meant to bring change. I also think p.Mercury was sextiling her Moon but I'll have to look again. ETA: Better, it was conjunct. 3. She has Mercury in Leo. They are great analysts because they are so logical. She appears strong in her belief because Leo is a fixed sign. That's what I found for starters even though it is pretty basic. I am really, really proud of Malala. In fact I am really proud my generation is getting to experience these steady social improvements in general. Way to go!
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1915 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 18, 2014 07:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Looking at her chart - 1. What does it mean if you have a 12th house planet conjunct the ASC? Is it somewhat saved from 12th house issues?
I'd summarize it by comparison. If Sun were in the 1st house there is an internally generated confidence that is subjective and tends more towards ego-driven trappings, but will encourage health and vitality. In the 12th house there are more subconscious/psychological drives that come from the recognition of the needs in others and aims are more towards service, whether these go right or wrong. The 12th house generally indicates our subconscious, which is often more visible to others. It can also indicate karma, meaning a person has 'issues', but the urging here is toward public service. Whereas the 6th house indicates the body/unconscious and service driven from objective definition, the 12th house indicates the psyche/subconscious and service driven by outward or public definition. quote:
2. She has Moon trine Uranus - her need for equality (Moon in Libra, and equality for women specifically, at that) is meant to bring change. I also think p.Mercury was sextiling her Moon but I'll have to look again. ETA: Better, it was conjunct. 3. She has Mercury in Leo. They are great analysts because they are so logical. She appears strong in her belief because Leo is a fixed sign. That's what I found for starters even though it is pretty basic. I am really, really proud of Malala. In fact I am really proud my generation is getting to experience these steady social improvements in general. Way to go!
I feel the same way. Knowing about her, watching her and listening to her speeches makes me feel proud to be a human being and excited and hopeful about the future of people not only in countries like Pakistan, but the future of humanity in general. Leadership is mostly about courage and inspiration. Leaders don't have to be perfect or have special answers. They don't need to be martyrs or saviors. She will inspire countless boys and girls all over the globe and I hope that she is able and willing to come to the USA and speak especially to young people. I think we could use some perspective about how privileged we are and how much power and responsibility we really have in the world.
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 6569 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 04:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Looking at her chart - 1. What does it mean if you have a 12th house planet conjunct the ASC? Is it somewhat saved from 12th house issues? 2. She has Moon trine Uranus - her need for equality (Moon in Libra, and equality for women specifically, at that) is meant to bring change. I also think p.Mercury was sextiling her Moon but I'll have to look again. ETA: Better, it was conjunct. 3. She has Mercury in Leo. They are great analysts because they are so logical. She appears strong in her belief because Leo is a fixed sign. That's what I found for starters even though it is pretty basic. I am really, really proud of Malala. In fact I am really proud my generation is getting to experience these steady social improvements in general. Way to go!
1. She could transfix the masses. 2. In short, Libra placements are good for the politics. Moon trine Uranus could point to outlandish solutions and sensibilities that would find good reception. A pleasantly odd egg. 3. No, they are ideological. The belief comes from the ego.
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 3089 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 19, 2014 08:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by VenusDiSirius: 1. She could transfix the masses. 2. In short, Libra placements are good for the politics. Moon trine Uranus could point to outlandish solutions and sensibilities that would find good reception. A pleasantly odd egg. 3. No, they are ideological. The belief comes from the ego.
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