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TensionEmpire
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posted October 18, 2014 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So here is my masculine Post. xD
I have Mars Square Pluto, I just love it when I read in Stephen Arroyos Book:
"For sure biggest exprecion of raw power/straingh."

I think It is truly a pot filled with energy ready to explode.
I never got to the point because I am really emotional in situations of conflict, but I belive If someone induce me to my limit I imagine geting in a stage of an Berserker.

Dose someone know a fighter/climber/sportsman with this aspect?
Some situations with this Aspect?
Someone else gets facinated by this Aspect?

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fishbull11
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posted October 18, 2014 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishbull11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a wide square with this aspect, 7.5' or so which some would consider not a square. I know Bruce Lee had this square and channeled his energy into martial arts. It is a charged placement, abounding energy to a degree, I find sometimes I feel more alert and with it with only 3 hours sleep versus a full 8 hours sleep (but gain a wide square). I do have quite a bit of stamina in sports in general and quite active to channel the energy which is essential with this placement...finding outlets for pent up energy. This energy can also be picked up by others, in particular you can instill quite a reaction from the opposite sex especially with a close square and a receptive person of the opposite sex, its an energy that is hard for some to ignore. While it has it challenges I do actually enjoy having this wide square, better than lack of energy or less than average stamina.

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the89freespirit
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posted October 18, 2014 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I actually JUST wrote a blog post about Mars-Pluto aspects on my blog, which is in my signature. Check it out if you want.

But, I'm very fascinated with these aspects. I have Sun-Pluto and Moon-Pluto myself, but they seem quite different, in a way I can't exactly explain. Mars is all about the call to battle, so I feel like Mars-Pluto is like the soldier. Or the martial artist, like Bruce Lee. Anything that involves fierce fighting skills.

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astrolady83
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posted October 18, 2014 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrolady83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the square in my natal. With moon mixed in.. as well as ascendant juno and lilith in the mix.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 18, 2014 01:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exact opposition here. Aries Mars.

You don't want me as your enemy, I'll say that much.

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posted October 18, 2014 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father has the square. He was a military man, in the medical field. Aries MC, 10H MARS and PALLAS (for the intellectual flair), square his 1H Leo PLUTO. His MARS is in feminine Taurus though, plus he is a 12H Cancer SUN. He has a mushy, worrywart personality. He used to run as a hobby, but he likes gardening too.

My nephew also has a very wide square, 8°. Aries IC, 9H MARS conj SUN and JUPITER, square his 12H Sag PLUTO. His MARS sits in super-high-standards Virgo, and he is very active and ridiculously competitive about everything (he's active in Karate and Jujitsu). He'll be a handful in his teens.

My friend's husband has the trine. He wanted to be in the police force, but that hasn't happened. He has intercepted Aries in the 1H, 4H MARS conjunct IC, trine intercepted 7H Libra PLUTO. His MARS in Gemini gives him a flash temper, but it's worsened by those interceptions. He can't use either MARS or PLUTO very well, despite the trine.

I've noticed the semisextile aspect tends to make one very indecisive.

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posted October 18, 2014 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I think It is truly a pot filled with energy ready to explode"

Yes it is. I have it 1 degrees btw virgo mars & scorp pluto

I think it's protected me in dangerous situations because I often have a "don't **** with me, I'll be happy to snap & kill u" vibe. when i'm walking alone in a bad area. even though i'm like 5'3" 90 lbs, it works, people stay away. or if i get harassed, they realize I won't take any crap and back off. It's a blessing

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wilderplain
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posted October 19, 2014 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wilderplain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got Mars trine Venus/Pluto within a degree. 11th house Mars, 7th house Venus/Pluto.

This aspect doesn't feel really aggressive to me, I think because my Mars is in Pisces. And I don't really feel it actively - it's just like a constant hum in the background of my being. I can only really see it when I look at my actions and I realise that I have an incredibly strong will, and an ability to just Get Things Done. I look at other people, see them giving up or flaking out or getting distracted, and I'm like "Why would you do that? Just keep going! Just figure out what you have to do AND THEN DO IT!!!'

The Pisces shows itself in that I'm driven by very strong ethical and humanitarian ideals. If I'm going to succeed, it's going to be in a way which I approve of. A success that comes through flaking out on what you believe in is no success at all.

The Venus conjunct the Pluto shows itself in my huge devotion to art. I put huge amounts of time, money and energy into my musical projects. It was only after years of failed projects and trying to work with people in various ways that I realised - I need to be in charge! And my 11th house Mars works very well at directing group projects!

So I'm working now on my latest band. I write the songs, and direct the members. I just don't stop. Always onto the next thing - the next song, the next show, the next release, the next tour. You just keep going and you just DO IT!!!

I love it though. I love living this way, it's like an obsession but a beautiful one.

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wilderplain
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posted October 19, 2014 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wilderplain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Hey, I actually JUST wrote a blog post about Mars-Pluto aspects on my blog, which is in my signature. Check it out if you want.

But, I'm very fascinated with these aspects. I have Sun-Pluto and Moon-Pluto myself, but they seem quite different, in a way I can't exactly explain. Mars is all about the call to battle, so I feel like Mars-Pluto is like the soldier. Or the martial artist, like Bruce Lee. Anything that involves fierce fighting skills.


Hey just wanted to say - great article on Mars/Pluto. I'm totally pickin' up what you're puttin' down!!!

Vibing with these:

"Anyone familiar with a perfectly cool, calm, and collected Mars-Pluto person might just say, “Yeah, right”, when told that this person is harboring some extremely intense, even violent, compulsions beneath that controlled surface."

"As a positive Mars-Pluto person, you’ll only want to associate with people who want to be empowered and encourage your own empowerment."

"As highly sexed as you are, you definitely aren’t going to be satisfied with a string of flings. You desire a soul-mate who you can make totally ecstatic love to."

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the89freespirit
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posted October 19, 2014 01:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilderplain:
Hey just wanted to say - great article on Mars/Pluto. I'm totally pickin' up what you're puttin' down!!!

Vibing with these:

"Anyone familiar with a perfectly cool, calm, and collected Mars-Pluto person might just say, “Yeah, right”, when told that this person is harboring some extremely intense, even violent, compulsions beneath that controlled surface."

"As a positive Mars-Pluto person, you’ll only want to associate with people who want to be empowered and encourage your own empowerment."

"As highly sexed as you are, you definitely aren’t going to be satisfied with a string of flings. You desire a soul-mate who you can make totally ecstatic love to."


Thanks, wilderplain! I've been loving writing about these Pluto aspects (I did articles about the Sun and Moon) because I enjoy giving Pluto people something more positive and constructive about themselves to read about, instead of all the gloomy junk out there. And, of course, those Sun-Pluto and Moon-Pluto articles are my most popular. Everyone's fascinated with Pluto/Scorpio.

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theunknown
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posted October 19, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed the trine aspects on Cancer mars this generation tend to be heavily tempered by uranus/neptune opposition... So even when they are angry, they are not all that bad. Especially in a low pluto chart. If the person has more connection with pluto, they are more able to unleash it.

I have the exact sextile with cap mars and to be honest, cap mars never get off being in control so I don't always feel it. I feel the pluto square sun much more

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lalalinda
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posted October 19, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello TensionEmpire! Welcome to LL

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posted October 19, 2014 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@the89freespirit
I like your blog.

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PixieJane
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posted October 19, 2014 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 19, 2014 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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PixieJane
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posted October 19, 2014 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
@the89freespirit
I like your blog.



I didn't notice until you said something, but me too!

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PixieJane
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posted October 20, 2014 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sunnya
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posted October 20, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars square Pluto here.

Everything that has been said really resonates with me.

"They’re victimizing themselves and a positive Mars-Pluto individual is not interested in playing the victim game, whatsoever. In fact, they might harbor a vicious dislike toward people who do, not being able to tolerate them for long and probably going as far to cutting themselves off from them, refusing to associate with such sad-sack whiners. As a positive Mars-Pluto person, you’ll only want to associate with people who want to be empowered and encourage your own empowerment."

This is SO true. I can't stand people moaning all the time about things they clearly chose, plus they don't do anything to change their situation! They choose to live on their endless moaning, because they have the "little poor me" attitude.

Thanks for all the articles the89freespirit. You have a wonderful blog.

EDIT: I have never been involved in physical fights, only as a sport in martial arts. However, if I imagine myself in a dangerous situation, I am afraid of myself, because I don't know what I would be able to do to defend myself, loved ones or animals. These situations make that volcano awake inside me. I am never afraid of anything or anyone even though I am a petite girl.
Like Selenite said above I can put the "don't **** with me" face anytime I want.

The only experience I remember was some guy tried to rob some drunk guy in the street and my dad saw and chased the guy. I had no idea what was happening because I just saw my dad running after a guy from our home window. But my instinct kicked in: I just ran outside and started chasing the guy as well.... I only realised I was running barefoot in the street when my dad was shouting at me to stop....
It's like I can loose all the senses and focus on the one I need to catch/punish. It is scary if it's not controlled.

Granted, my moon in Taurus helps to keep emotions in check, even though Moon opposites Pluto too.

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Wow, thanks for all the positivity for the blog, guys! I really love doing it, especially for other people's enjoyment and enlightenment.

And Pixie Jane, I love everything you wrote. You've got a ton of self-awareness to be able to write that much about your aspect. Kudos.

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posted October 20, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a mars pluto exact conjunction, it also conjuncts the sun. i am very physical and hot-tempered and you don't want to cross me or i will probably just kick your... behind :-) i don't go around punching people or things, but have a lot of aggression towards certain people and have, in the past, had to curb it by punching a wall instead of a person. i think it is a great position for not taking any crap from people and it gives amazing strength of personality. very forceful. it comes across in almost everything, sports, relationships, family, work, etc. i don't think the aspect can be contained to one area. super emotional and very hot-tempered. i think Danica Patrick, the racecar driver has this aspect and you can see it in her behavior for sure.

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posted October 20, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the square between Mars and Pluto and it's a tight orb.

Overall, I'm not like a scary or explosive or even intense person, but when it comes down to an emergency I can react better than anyone I know.

I think that's how it plays out for me.

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PixieJane
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posted October 20, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think my Scorpio Jupiter balances the stellium on either side (the Libra on Scorpio cusp) to help the powerful feelings create positive transformation. In extreme cases I can use rage to power icy will that seems outwardly calm or fear to create strength & initiative rather than weakness & hesitation.

A lot of people think I don't feel that strongly because I'm not constantly broadcasting my feelings to everyone around me. While that tempts me to think that maybe I'm special in my self-control I just can't forget how easily people are fooled by appearances. A very similar example is how so many people think everything is so hard for them while easy for everyone around them, because they're fooled by appearances and think what they perceive is all that there is, and that makes me think it's not that I'm special but rather others are just blind and won't see the hammer unless you hit them over the head with it.

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posted October 20, 2014 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't read the whole thread...just caught this in PJ's post...

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For Mars-Pluto, it’s because of how you make the world your playground. As a kid, you played rough, competing and play-acting and achieving and asserting yourself amongst your classmates with a ferocious vigor that was quite startling

LOL

That was me!

Mars trine Pluto

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PixieJane
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posted October 20, 2014 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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