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TensionEmpire
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posted November 03, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
yes quite possible to come here directly from future earth experience
must look at chart as a whole, also sabian symbols give clues

I don`t know If you want to take a look, but here it is :P

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12th_House_Gal
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posted November 03, 2014 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12th_House_Gal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so in love with this topic. I'm going to have to meditate on the question and really think about my perspective on it. What a cool question!!!

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deepseablues
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posted November 03, 2014 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by The Observer:
Do any of you have saturn retrograde or any interesting aspects to it? Nodal aspects would give similar resutls

I don't have any retrograde planets. But my Saturn is very active/afflicted. Conjunct Asc/Neptune exact, opposite Jupiter: 1 deg, square moon: 5 deg, sextile Sun: 5 deg, Quintile Mercury/Mars: 2 deg, conjunct Uranus: 7 deg, sextile MC: 2 deg, semi-square North Node: 1 deg.

NN has trine Merc/Mars 2 deg, sextile Venus 2 deg.

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deepseablues
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posted November 03, 2014 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Must be crazy stuff you experience during the night. xD
I think a friend of mine I visited some time ago had a similar issue, normally he had a light sleep and could not get into the deep sleep, so he would dream a lot and Wake up many times during the night.
Smoking weed alldaz helps him getting better sleep..
But maybe this sleep issue has to do with a health issue he has i dont remeber it right.

Yeah TensionEmpire I can't even begin to describe my wacked out dreams. Would take too long. Lots of recurring nightmares at times too, but those are getting better. The weed did help tone down the dreaming/nightmares a bit but began affecting too many other parts of my life/health and I had been a chronic for waaay to long and was using it as an escape to dealing with other issues so it was time to quit.

PS. No wonder I like you! Your Sun conjunct my Jupiter, 1 deg and DSC 2 deg and opp my Saturn/Neptune/Asc 2 deg, your Mars/Venus conjunct my South Node/Angel.

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posted November 04, 2014 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 04, 2014 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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TensionEmpire
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posted November 04, 2014 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey deepsea, we have thinks in common
Living in the countryside for exemple is wonderfull. I am planning to live alone on an abandoned Friends Land. We have plenty of woods and water in our region, it`s magical.
If you have the opportunity I would try it out .
But when I moved here I really got to meet the potheads, it`s like absurdelly more what they smoke up here, What is worth 10 bucks in the city some throw out of the window in form of a roach xD

The Observer, so we have the same age? And you alredy know that much about astrology
It was a Vedic Chart from where I got this info, but at the time I did not ask for more..
The South Node is Past life so you are right
nice that you are helping me with some clues.

Maybe that's why when you look at the Pleyadies in the Sky you have that light play in front of your eyes.

I`m contributing for the weed discussion :P

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posted November 04, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha yeah we seem to have lots in common. And that does sound magical, I'm stoked for you and jealous haha. I would love the opportunity but I don't know any friends with abandoned land, or any land for that matter... Plus it's cold, wet and windy here so there would have to be some sort of structure and growing food year round isn't always an option. Sometimes I think I should move somewhere warmer but I have love for the the home (is)land. Plus I am in debt from my ex so I am stuck working it off where I am for now. Plus I have two cats. But I currently live in a magical little cottage on a pretty magical little property, it's like a little meadow/forest hidden in the semi-city but it's expensive for me to pay for by myself. Oh well I just keep dreams for the future and try not to get too down in the mean time. Barely any time to anyway

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posted November 04, 2014 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by The Observer:
Imagine a session between the people who used to smoke weed in here, the discussion going down would be pretty interesting LOL. Look into that kite tho.

That would be a sesh I would consider toking once more for :P

I wish I had a kite in my chart!

You and TensionEmpire, same month and year? And you both have awesome forum names and seem pretty cool and intelligent. Good month, good year apparently! One of my closest friends at the moment was born that year too! She's a Cap though but with a Cancer Asc, I love Cancers and Cap's! Well, with Cap's I prefer the women though.....

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LucieLemonade
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posted November 05, 2014 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I don't think time travel from the future is possible. Though having said that how do we know we are not actually in the past?

I saw a lovely movie about time travel the other day. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out. It's called About Time.

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posted November 05, 2014 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least you live on your own, me still have to undergo some stress in my parents house, it´s not easy with Uranus and Neptune in the 4th.
And work here is another issue, there is work from sunrise to sunset xD
But dude am I in a conturbed situation at the moment, oh gosh...

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posted November 05, 2014 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Personally I don't think time travel from the future is possible. Though having said that how do we know we are not actually in the past?

I saw a lovely movie about time travel the other day. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out. It's called About Time.


I do not see it like time travel,
I see timetravel more like you are in the time, travells, and gets into another time.
When ure out there making your choice where it`s gonna be up next, I dunno if ure under the influence of time..

I`m not that of a movie guy.. Is it too phisicaly orientaded?

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deepseablues
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posted November 06, 2014 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah the grass is always greener as they say, I don't have parents I could live with if I wanted to or not so I had to grow up early and gotta fend for myself.

Hope your situation turns out alright!

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posted November 06, 2014 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 06, 2014 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Observer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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TensionEmpire
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posted November 06, 2014 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno man, I have this Pluto oposing my Natal Sun, this Transit is what i was thinking more about, lately I discovered about Jupiter, Uranus Squaring Natal Uranus..
And this progressed full Moon..
I believe they fit wzell together, I believe Jupiter will be Positive and may turn this change that I am urging for into a nice think, or give me the strengh so I may do the change..
But it`s senceless I will never know what to do, I just can`t choose between my options and this is kind of torturing me..
Maybe it`s an inner change, but I`m deep down and latelly I am more for "living la vida loca".
One option is moving to a Friends Land how I said, that would be more for "inner change".. But oh how I think about Girls and about adventure... I think about weed but thats only when I´m stuck in a home..
And I`m facinated with Nomadism, I believe it`s the most beautifull life to live
I`m waiting for the big opportunity or positive vibes of Jupiter :P
One think is clear I have to get out of home.

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TensionEmpire
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posted November 06, 2014 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Yeah the grass is always greener as they say, I don't have parents I could live with if I wanted to or not so I had to grow up early and gotta fend for myself.

Hope your situation turns out alright!


I have great parents I may say, but I have always been the rebbel at home, If thinks are all fine and nice I`m not smiling.
I should respect them more ( I´m the most affectionate of the 3 brothers but I believe I am the only one that said **** you..) and think twice befor leaving our Family Land Work behind, but I believe I will never truly know myself if I stay at home

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iQ
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posted November 06, 2014 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is certainly possible for people from a future time-line with respect to Earth to incarnate here. It is possible that many Star Seeds are like this, as their Star System Existence could be thousands of years ahead.

And indeed, Mr Guhr's chart has futuristic aspects.

1. Saturn in 5 Aquarius has the Sabian: A "Masked Figure Performs Ritualistic Acts In A Mystery Play".
Saturn in Aquarius can certainly have the keyword of Karmic Debts from the Future as Aquarius is the Sign of the Future.

2. Uranus rules Aquarius and opposes his Sun exact.

3. Asteroid ANGEL bisects Uranus-Sun opposition exact. A Stressful event in the Future needing an Earth Incarnation as a "Cooling Off Period" is certainly possible.

4. Helio Venus is conjunct Antares exact, a desire to roam the Stars?

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TensionEmpire
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posted November 06, 2014 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aubyanne
Hey, sorry I forgot to answer you.
I have realy low knowledge in interpretation in Astrology, but I don`t see major aspects with those asteroids..
All of them are Retrogade only Inter not.
My Cupid enters my Sexual side of my Chard almost conjucting my Pluto (3 orbs) and Squaring my Mars (2 orbs)

My Madha trines my Venus exact.

I´m not that familiar with Multidimensions but of corse you Helped

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posted November 06, 2014 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey iQ, what a honor , you have met my brother he visited the forums a couple of Years ago, freedomlover was his name.

A "Masked Figure Performs Ritualistic Acts In A Mystery Play".
only the Ritualistic Acts are missing, the rest I could fit in my Imagination :P
So there is the possibility that I`ve gained some Karma in the Future and am dealing with it now, my SN in the 10 H. could fit into this..

I believe Uranus is the one of the strongest Planets in my Chart if not the Strongest one.

"Asteroid ANGEL bisects Uranus-Sun opposition exact."
Thats interesting I`ve looked up the Angel asteroid but never saw this exact Aspect, must be important because I believe my Uranus-Sun axis is the strongest in My Chart.
This Stressfull event, you mean in Another life? "Cooling of Period" matches with the "Debts from the Future" you mention in Nr. 1

A Desire to roam the Stars?? Oh, Yeah

The Husband of the Vedic Astrologer could read Hands and he looked into mine.
He said I would "feel my Wings unfold more and more"
This is what I am looking for, maybe I`m laking at spiritual routine..
But I believe if I would venture to the World they would unfold..

Thank you iQ for sharing your Wisdom with me/us.

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posted November 07, 2014 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@TensionEmpire:
Your brother, his wife and their beautiful baby boy are one amazing family.

Your brother is an Indigo Child, notice how he has 12th House planets whereas you do not.

And notice how his Uranus-Neptune conjunction is bang on your North Node. His future evolution could take him where your future Self is right now, if that makes sense

I am getting a clearer idea now, your nephew could also be a reason for you to incarnate in this time period, like a Guardian when he matures.

An Extraordinary family indeed!

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posted November 07, 2014 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe yeah I was going to say the same thing as you TensionEmpire, grand entrance from iQ there, you are blessed

I didn't even think he (you) ever ventured into this forum anymore.

If you are still there iQ, does that mean all with 12th house placements are Indigo?

And definitely a big thanks for the wisdom sharing, in this thread/forum and any other.

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posted November 08, 2014 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
I don`t know If you want to take a look, but here it is :P


Sure, I would love to take a look. Thanks for posting birth details. It's easier for me to enter data and use equal house. I must thank IQ. He is the absolute best!!! Quick and precise. There is no way I would ever be able to match his interpretations so eloquently and efficiently. Thanks IQ

So, Tension Empire, how about if I just give you a simple minded approach that supports your futuristic origins through the basic Sabian degree of your AC, your point of incarnation.

Your AC is 7-8 deg Libra
"A Blazing Fireplace In A Deserted Home"
(Also designated the 8th degree. 0-1 degrees is known as the first degree even though it numerically begins with a zero it is the first degree of a sign, so numerically speaking 7 degrees becomes the 8th degree of the sign)
You can start interpreting by reading from several sites on the web but it's best to come up with your own meaning. Here's a link to the one by Dane Rudyar... http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Contents.htm

So here you have a strong image of been there done that. It's as though the fire is kept eternal waiting for you to come back and revisit in order to alter things this time. Simple.

And yes, Uranus in Aquarius on the angle opposite your Sun is very strong futuristic, and may even point to futuristic physical genetic makeup, perhaps bringing your same physical body with you from the future (long shot) or coming from the future into the same genetic family line as the future.

I lovingly call Uranus in the 4H the ascension aspect, as it connects you to the invisible energy grids and supercharges your existence. You may even be able to take your same physical body from here into the future. I personally believe there are no limitations, but with other troublesome planets in 4H it would be hard to guarantee this. These planets plus 6H pisces Moon indicate not feeling at home here physically on Earth, yet needing to fit in somehow. Plus 4H Capricorn planets opposite Sun show how unsettling it is to be here following established ways of living and laws of society.

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posted November 08, 2014 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plus I looked up your prenatal eclipses. Both prenatal Solar and Lunar Eclipses are in Capricorn. That's rare, in my personal experience to see them both in the same sign. And in Capricorn you are under pressure to live an exemplary life, and face yourself honestly, care about your reputation. Cancer Sun and 11H planets support this through hard work and material gains, plus 2H Pluto requires careful planning, investing and financial responsibility. No escapism for you this time around. You must find a way to be useful and share all knowledge/wisdom freely to help others get ahead, especially spiritual insights from the future. Does that resonate with you?

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posted November 08, 2014 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@iQ:
Me and my Brother did everythink together in our youth, shared our clothes, where in the same friends group.. But we are quite different and we had conflicts (Me beeing more of the bad guy)..

Yeah, quite a bang! It dose make sence, I can imagine somethink with your interpretation. So It`s like I a have a future self that continues his living, sometimes I have the thought that someone(s) is cheking my living here down on Earth, that I have a mission, my ego plays a role in it, maybe I got into this since I read about Pluto Square Mars, " guided to some Predestination"

I thought that I would be his Guardian, matches with Martial Arts (The Vedic Astrologer, told me I should do it) If I remember well she eaven told me I would have to protect myself..
My Sister thought our Nephew would be the Guardian, my Guardian? After that I got confused :P

Maybe I`m writing too much here..
Hey iQ I realy apreciate your friendlyness


@PlutoSurvivor:
Thanks for your time and help
So I am so into Nomadism, that the first time I read "A Blazing Fireplace In A Deserted Home" I Imagine my self in a Desert besides a Fireplace. :P
But reading the webside looking at it as a hole it matches with my idea of the lack of spiritual routine, that I should try to center myself to get axcess to that "lost home".

So I may be travelling with my Soul and with my Body, I do have an inclination to Narcissim.. :P
For me Uranus in the 4th was a rather difficult aspect, counting that I still live in my parents home.
It is nice to see it with another light.
And yes I feel myself like a Fish out of the Water.

I have never heart about the prenatal eclipses.. So that Capricorn/Cancer Axis of mine is really worth an investiagtion.
I do have pressure to live an exemplary life, form my parents (maybe a light pressure but still there) and from myself also. I believe I am having problems to face myself honestly, and I like to say I do not care about my reputation.
MI believe I do not have problems with hard work, but I do have difficulties in fousing in one think.
I kind of dislike material gains because I associate them with money, but are there other, like harvesting a Watermelon?
I do not have a tiny will to spent time planing thinks and on financyall issues, but maybe that shows that it is missing in my life.
Escapism would be venture into the World? :P
I dream with beeing usefull, help the World.. I do not have anyproblems with sharing my knowledge/wisdom freely, I eaven can`t understand why someone wouldn`t do that..
I believe I never had spiritual insights from the future.
When I was jounger I alredy dreamed with adventure, I dreamed with a World of Chaos, eaven with War, maybe a insight, but not that spiritual.
I would say it dose resonates with me, only that I`m on a dizzy moment of my Life.

So I see it tends more for me to endure the beggining difficulties and finally start to focus my energy on what really mathers. Having a place for myself, develop my spirituality, put it in my head that my work is on the Land.

But I have developed this dream of mine, it has to do with lust and sences, but It dose have to do with spirituality as well, trying not worry with anythink, dealing with little material thinks, freedom at it`s apex, geting closer to the moment...

But I se the Capricorn/Cancer axis has too much too do with Building something up and with a fixed Home

It`s just that sometimes I feel like Jesus in Mt. 13:54-55, when he get`s back to his hometown..

I hope this is not getting boring for you guys, it really is helping me.
But at the end I know It is only up to me to sit down and meditate into this.

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