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Topic: Coming from the Future
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TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 05:29 AM
Is it possible that someone reincarnates from the future? And what would indicate something like this in the Natal Chart?Good Morning Tnsn IP: Logged |
deepseablues Knowflake Posts: 387 From: the ocean floor Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 07:50 AM
Well sort of cause time in actuality is non linear with the past present and future happening all at once and the linear affect is an illusion of this reality that is hard to grasp while stuck in it. But apparently we can experience non linear time. All we have is the present...Dunno the chart indications, sorry IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 1924 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted October 29, 2014 09:23 AM
I've thought about this too...bc what is time really, but a man made idea??Hmmm, I'll be following this thread IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 10:09 AM
I got told once that by an Hindu Astrologer that I came from the Future. xDAt this moments of my live I got into the thought that It would be difficult for me if I realy came from the future to live in this World in it`s actuall state. Because I have having big difficultys to Center myself at the present time.. IP: Logged |
deepseablues Knowflake Posts: 387 From: the ocean floor Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 02:25 PM
Maybe you came from a future that was experiencing worse events than this reality and came back to this timeline to help try and change the past so you can experience a better future. A lot of channelings say that is why they are helping us cause there are future timelines that are experiencing radical tyranny far worse than what we experience now that are affecting other places in the universe but spawning from here so they are trying to insert thoughts etc into this timeline to effect a different more positive future for all. I think we succeed. I know of an article you will prob like. Will link to it later. You ask good questions. I like you.I have trouble centering myself too. I'm always stuck in the past or the future. I want to know all my past selves and want to be my future evolved self RIGHT NOW! IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 5563 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 29, 2014 09:06 PM
Did he say anything at all about this future time?IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 09:41 PM
No I did not, but deepseablues could read between the lines :PI never thought about that, if I assume this possibility I think it would be a close Future because I don`t think the World can sustain this madness for much longer.. I also have strong dillemas with Past and Future, after all I am a Cancerian. Yeah latelly I have been needing some Forum distractions, considering that I don`t have that much patients to write on the internet and elaborate nice answers. And I like to arguee about interesting topics. Thx deepsea, I also apreciate your attention IP: Logged |
deepseablues Knowflake Posts: 387 From: the ocean floor Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 29, 2014 10:55 PM
Ooh a Cancerian, Cancerian men might very well be the best kind. Anywho the article I was talking about is 40 pages and this specific part is at the very end, so I copied and pasted the last couple pages that talk about what you reminded me of about coming from the future. Link to whole article at the bottom: quote: Time It is hard for us on earth to get our heads around the idea that time is not linear, past, present and future. When in fact time, and all time lines are going on at the same time. There are past selves still living in the past and future selves we are yet to become, living in the future. They are many times lines some of which cross and merge at certain junctures. Are we as a consciousness choosing to embed ourselves in the time matrix into our past, so we can affect and bring about change in our future? Are we time travellers moving backwards and forwards in time rearranging our past to affect our future? It is said that many of the beings and races which are communicating with us now here on earth are from our future. Some of these being's tell us they are US in the future. Some are saying that the Greys are us from a future time line; they have come back into the past to address issues which are affecting them in the future. It is said that the Annunaki have come back in time to embed themselves into our time matrix to bring about a much needed transformation in their future. You see the whole universe is transforming. Now please excuse me if I do not relay this to you correctly or clearly as I myself, do not fully understand this process. So therefore I will describe it the best way I can to you and you can fill in the gaps for yourselves. It seems that I am a super hybrid as you are too. We have within us all the star codes of all races, all levels of beings that have ever existed in the universe. Each one of these codes makes up our overall soul matrix, a fractal pattern if you like. We are on a mission to take ourselves through all the dimensions from the very top, the Star that illuminates a thousand Moons, to the very null zone to the zero point. We are to pass through the zero point into the void and then recreate ourselves at the speed of light into a brand new universal reality. As we do so we are recording our experiences into the fabric of the universe. We are imprinting our journey into the fabric of the universe so all beings, all races can follow our steps and walk through the zero point to be recreated as one in the new universe. It is a mission indeed; in fact this mission has been going on since we first left the Source on its out - breath. For millions of years this has been our task, to incarnate into all systems to become all beings and take the codes of these beings into our soul matrix. We are doing something which has never been done before, not one being in the universe had ever been through this process before. It is not easy to navigate our way through the various dimensions and time lines. We are complex Time Lords. It is not simply that we started out from the Star that illuminates a thousand Moons and then made a direct path from the Source to here on earth. We have looped around ourselves, moving forwards and backwards in time, retracing our steps over and over, picking up one more code that was missed along the way. It is not simply that we can go back into the past or move into the future to retrieve all codes of one certain being or race for instance, it is much more complex than that. Each code or each being or the race that being represents , has to be braided into the DNA spiral in the same way as the heart harmonics weave the ponytail of the DNA. I have moved backwards and forwards in time, crossing time lines, picking up threads to weave into the fabric of my universal cloth. Not all time lines are successful, some end in the annihilation of the whole universe. Many races (within this time line) cease to be as we pass through the zero point, as they have not been able to braid themselves into the DNA. The Greys and the Annunaki are some of the beings who have failed in this future time line. They need to find a way of re-splicing themselves into our DNA so they too can transform with the rest of the universe. I think many are confused as to who is who in the universal drama, myself included. There are some people who have had experiences with the Greys for instance which are awful and very negative and then there are people like myself who have had communication with the Greys from a future time line, which is totally different to the experience that other people have had. Are we communicating with the same race of beings from different time lines? That would certainly make sense of the confusion. I know that I have come from a future earth time line to be here now on the earth. I remember this and I remember how I got here. When I was small I had lots of dreams (or what I was told by my parents that they were dreams) of a future earth. In these dreams I was always with my father, this future earth was a terrible place, full of pollution, disease, war and death. There were not many people left, and those of us who were, were constantly on the run and hiding from the military. Night after night I would see myself traveling down a wormhole to hide in this past time line. I came from the future to hide in this time line, as I was constantly being chased by beings that looked human but I fear they were not. The time police were after me. I often saw these police in the middle of the night standing by the doorway of my bedroom. One evening I was taken from my bed by these time police, my mother was standing in the doorway frozen as if she was hypnotised. I screamed out to her but she did not hear me and only continued to stare into space whilst the time police took me from my bed, I remember no more. These dreams went on for most of my childhood, to the point where it started to bleed through into my life here and now. At school I would play a game in my head that I was hiding in this time line and that as long as I stayed in disguise and kept moving the police would not be able to pick up on my energetic signature and capture me. I must admit I got into trouble for day dreaming. Several times I had dreams where I woke up with dirt in my bed or I landed on top of my bed with it made from the night before, it is only now in my adult life that I have begun to question whether they were dreams at all. I tried to put all of this behind me as I grew up but when I woke up spiritually as an adult this all came flooding back to me, especially when my dad went mad. My father said that men dressed in some sort of uniform were coming into his house uninvited. At first no one took too much notice, even though we thought it was strange as my father was a very rational person. One day he ran into his neighbour’s house screaming that these men were after him, and were in his house. The neighbour went into his house to find he had covered all the reflective surfaces, mirrors, window etc with newspaper. When she asked him why he had done this he told her that it was to stop the men from the future coming through the window and mirrors. He was later taken into a mental hospital and later died of premature senile dementia. When she told me this all my dreams and strange occurrences from my childhood came flooding back. I visited my father and he did not know who I was. I do not know what they did to him or whether this was a side affect of his dementia, but he not only did not know who I was, he could not stand to have me in the room. I was not allowed to see him after a few visits, as he could not stand having me in the room, other members of the family, he did know and accept, me however he only screamed until I left. Were these more than just dreams, did I really come from the future? It seems to me that there are lots of different agendas going on , lots of different races all competing with each other for our attention in the here and now. We are obviously important to them. We have beings and races contacting us from different points in the time line, some are still aligned to service to self orientation, some have appeared to have instantly transformed from their former service to self orientation to a service to others orientation. Is this because we are contacting them from different sectors of the same time line? Have they transformed themselves in the future from the work we are doing with them in the here and now? Interesting ah! There are certain places on the planet which act as magnetic lens to allow whole soul groups the ability to pass through at the speed of light the skin of the egg, to escape the cube and fly into a newly transformed future. Many of these places the ancients built monoliths upon to act as lens to the stars. The halls of Amenti is one of these places. The halls of Amenti was a fabricated magnetic lens designed to allow whole soul groups to go through the speed of light ( skin) to escape the cube and fly home to the stars. The Halls of Amenti are the secret ways out of the matrix and cube. This allows there to be a migration of souls. The Mayan calendar holds the codes of the matrix, we have the encoded ourselves into time, and we did this via the calendar. In order to inhabit time we had to embed ourselves into time fractalisation. Certain gene pools can walk down the time corridors and bring back memories as lucid dreams.
from this article: http://www.alloya.com/texts/Braiding%20the%20Self.pdf Might like this one too: http://www.alloya.com/texts/past%20life%20themes.pdf I personally think all her articles are epically mind blowing but they are not everyone's cup of tea IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 30, 2014 05:53 PM
Once I got told by a veteran Cancerian, that this was a sufferer Sign :PVery interesting article, crazy story of hers. I personally never had abnormal experiences and I do not remember about crazy dreams I had. I have read "Messengers of the New Morning" about the Pleyadis and the article matches in some thinks with the Book. I will take a look at her website. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 5563 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 30, 2014 08:01 PM
I've had all sorts of time travel and alternate universal ("sideways in time") dreams. I even did a popular Kim Possible fanfic based on one such dream though as you'd have to be familiar with Kim Possible to follow it (and I did change it to fit) I won't post a link. I'm thinking of posting a joke post I once did of how time was shifting in time quakes, that was a fun one...I have such vivid imaginings, like memory, of gravving (in a suit) over a gas giant that dwarfs Jupiter, being on worlds with different gravity and the odd flora found there and so many other things. Some vivid dreams of intergalactic societies are there, too. Oh! I know one dream I can share! Here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004592.html IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 30, 2014 09:05 PM
Nice dream of yours, and the story of whats "good or bad" is nice also. There is this universal law that turns thinks over, like you do something expecting A but you receive B.I think I don`t have that kind of detailed and long dreams, and I just started to dream again. Because before I smoked pot all day long and with that habid I was not able to dream :P Oh but how I love some dreams of mine, reality almost tortures me when I wake uo from a nice vivid dream xD IP: Logged |
deepseablues Knowflake Posts: 387 From: the ocean floor Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 30, 2014 09:15 PM
Hehe yeah I used to smoke tons of pot so that I WOULDN'T dream, cause I don't really dream I just have insane and endless nightmares all night every night so that it feels like I didn't even get any rest cause my dreams are almost more active than my days. So I used to smoke pot all the time so I could not dream AS much and I used to try to sleep away as much of my life as I could. Now I don't smoke any pot and it's crazy times all night long. Even though I have such awful dreams I still like sleep world better than "reality" world.IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 5563 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 30, 2014 09:50 PM
Vitamin B (and I've noticed B12 even by itself) can help you remember your dreams better (also hear they're good for remembering drug trips so maybe they'd help even if you're smoking pot).IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2014 07:09 AM
I realy did not dream at all, I believe if you smoke all day long at the end of the day you will just fall in that deep sleep, and wont have light sleep moments, this moments where you dream.IP: Logged |
The Observer Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 31, 2014 04:50 PM
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posted October 31, 2014 04:54 PM
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1440 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 03:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by deepseablues: Well sort of cause time in actuality is non linear with the past present and future happening all at once and the linear affect is an illusion of this reality that is hard to grasp while stuck in it. But apparently we can experience non linear time. All we have is the present...Dunno the chart indications, sorry
Not ... exactly; but close. It's the arrow of time that's to blame for linearity. While only now exists, and both the past and future are constructs, what we observe is our primary timeline. As to 'past lives from the future', that's multidimensionality. Reincarnation, in my view, is merely observing the evidence of concurrent timelines. They can originate anywhere. Some indicators of multidimensionality in natal, and synastry, in my experience: INTERKOSMOS (2365) TARDIS (3325) MADHATTER (6735) CUPIDO (h40) INTERKOSMOS is defined as a 'bridge between worlds'. TARDIS seems to be an indicator of ease with multidimensionality or the ability to observe time in a nonlinear fashion. In my research, as MADHATTER is based upon the character The Hatter from Lewis Carroll's initial Alice works, it encompasses both a preoccupation as well as potential command of time, as the Hatter was actually a transdimensional character, appearing with a different identity in Looking Glass Land. CUPIDO is good for evaluating if a relationship is crossing timelines. We see it active with what are considered soulmate connexions, and where there's a multidimensional history. Hope that helps! IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1440 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 03:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by deepseablues: ... there are future timelines that are experiencing radical tyranny far worse than what we experience now that are affecting other places in the universe but spawning from here so they are trying to insert thoughts etc into this timeline to effect a different more positive future for all.
This has been my experience as well. Not everywhere, mind, but certain lines are battling severe outbreaks (of which the Ebola presence here is a parallel; there it appears to be necrotic, but still a bloodborne pathogen) as well as a much stronger governmental structure and authoritarian presence. Again, that's hardly everywhere. But it's strong and influential enough for genuine concern. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9785 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 01, 2014 03:27 AM
I need some drugs to comprehend this.Interesting topic. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1440 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 03:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: I need some drugs to comprehend this.Interesting topic.
I always wonder why I never have. I'm working with someone in the pro circuit to help me develop my series which uses concurrent timelines. He CAN conceive of the concept, but he keeps reminding me that 'audiences just don't perceive time in this way.' I'm constantly having to feel as if I'm spoon-feeding everything. It's just SO ... basic for me. Disconcertingly so, I suppose. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9785 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 01, 2014 11:54 AM
You're just super advanced Auby. You should be proud of yourself.IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 1440 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2014 12:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: You're just super advanced Auby. You should be proud of yourself.
I'm not so sure. In some ways, yes. But the time thing -- my mother taught me very, very young. So it's ALWAYS been with me. As a storyteller who's supposed to be writing LINEAR stories ... it's tough. I'm having to learn to process time the way everyone does. Not as much of a crack up as you'd think! IP: Logged |
PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1183 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 01, 2014 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by TensionEmpire: Is it possible that someone reincarnates from the future? And what would indicate something like this in the Natal Chart?Good Morning Tnsn
yes quite possible to come here directly from future earth experience must look at chart as a whole, also sabian symbols give clues IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 03, 2014 12:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by The Observer: Do any of you have saturn retrograde or any interesting aspects to it? Nodal aspects would give similar resutls
Yup, me got the retrogate Saturn I got it opposing my Júpiter and my Mercury and Quiron conjunction. But this oppositions have wide orbs. I did never noticed my Saturn on my chart, but in "pollus thinky" its the most importand Plantet in my Chart and in "Color thinky" it is has the 4 place. Still trzying to figure it out why its like that.. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 03, 2014 12:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by deepseablues: Hehe yeah I used to smoke tons of pot so that I WOULDN'T dream, cause I don't really dream I just have insane and endless nightmares all night every night so that it feels like I didn't even get any rest cause my dreams are almost more active than my days. So I used to smoke pot all the time so I could not dream AS much and I used to try to sleep away as much of my life as I could. Now I don't smoke any pot and it's crazy times all night long. Even though I have such awful dreams I still like sleep world better than "reality" world.
Must be crazy stuff you experience during the night. xD I think a friend of mine I visited some time ago had a similar issue, normally he had a light sleep and could not get into the deep sleep, so he would dream a lot and Wake up many times during the night. Smoking weed alldaz helps him getting better sleep.. But maybe this sleep issue has to do with a health issue he has i dont remeber it right. IP: Logged |