posted October 31, 2014 08:34 AM            

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Originally posted by florence:
Actually my only reference is a girl I worked with who did exactly as described and I could not recall if she was sag or Scorpio so must have been on the cusp .. I think though she was Scorpio but she had a sag bounce to her. I would not be surprised if she had a Libra asc though.

An Aries sun with sun opp Pluto told me he used charm in a manipulative way at work and one example of how it was really intricate and Machiavellian considering what he managed to do

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Actually now that I think about it more I could see a Sag with a Libra asc coming across as those cheesy salesmen types, lol.

I wish I were better at charming people or getting them to do what I want. I'm actually terrible at that. Ugh.

posted October 31, 2014 12:59 PM            

I read this thread yesterday, and I wasn't sure about taking part in stereotypical descriptions.

To make it clear, placements do only take a small relevance about 'defining' one person's life, personality or behavior.
* Houses, Aspects between houses and also House-Lords/Rulers are the most relevant things to look at in a natal.
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I have to say that personally, I agree with these 2 comments.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmmm Mars in Scorpio with a full 5th House

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Originally posted by Odette:
1. Taurus or Cancer Moon afflicted...
2. Moon/Pluto or Venus/Pluto aspects

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Both make sense for me,
But I'd like to add a couple of things.

It looks like we're missing the MC (as an angle) or just the 10th house.
Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto certainly talks about some kind of fanatism, devotion and mesmerizing feelings.
Sounds more like 'romance aspects' for me.
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So, to give a possible explanation of this kind of behavior...
More complex examples would be:

*Moon or Venus as Lords of 10th House and also placed in the 10th house.
*Highly aspected by Pluto
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North Node in 10th/6th houses
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Adding to Ms Ami Anne's example:
A packed 5th house in Scorpio with Mars included.
With that Mars acting as Lord of 10th house.
Similar influences would be:
Lords of 10th (MC) placed in Romance (5th) or Partnerships (7th) Houses.
Highly or moderately aspected.

Oh and...
I feel kind of curious about everyone picking Libra. (??????????)
Libras tend to be the less successful in a Job-environment.
- Statistically speaking, of course.
Libra rules 7th
Not 10th

It's a 'love sign' but not a Material one.
Considerable amounts of Earth &/or water would be needed to change that.

That would be all, folks!
Bye!

posted October 31, 2014 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
So I guess it would be libras with a scorpio influence. How are you supposed to win thier game? If I call them out, then I'll be the one outted bcause they are so sweet and charming and friendly. But I hate fakeness and I just hate people that behave like that so there's no way I'm going to play along. He also tries extra hard to win me over because I th ink he can't stand that a girl in this world isn't attracted to him.

It's funny. I dated a libra sun and mars with scorp moon rising pluto and venus. He was so toxic. Would have been more toxic if I had feelings for him. Since I didn't feel as deeply for him he tried to ruin my life. And would try to physically hurt me. Terrible person. But I think it was really a narcissistic desire that made him want to win me over. Like ego validation.

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Leo moon! They love that females flock all over them and get annoyed when they don't.

posted October 31, 2014 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Actually, air signs are the less interested in material 'achivements'.
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I read this thread yesterday, and I wasn't sure about taking part in stereotypical descriptions.

To make it clear, placements do only take a small relevance about 'defining' one person's life, personality or behavior.
* Houses, Aspects between houses and also House-Lords/Rulers are the most relevant things to look at in a natal.
------------

I have to say that personally, I agree with these 2 comments.

Both make sense for me,
But I'd like to add a couple of things.

It looks like we're missing the MC (as an angle) or just the 10th house.
Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto certainly talks about some kind of fanatism, devotion and mesmerizing feelings.
Sounds more like 'romance aspects' for me.
==========================

So, to give a possible explanation of this kind of behavior...
More complex examples would be:

*Moon or Venus as Lords of 10th House and also placed in the 10th house.
*Highly aspected by Pluto
-------------
North Node in 10th/6th houses
-------------
Adding to Ms Ami Anne's example:
A packed 5th house in Scorpio with Mars included.
With that Mars acting as Lord of 10th house.
Similar influences would be:
Lords of 10th (MC) placed in Romance (5th) or Partnerships (7th) Houses.
Highly or moderately aspected.

Oh and...
I feel kind of curious about everyone picking Libra. (??????????)
Libras tend to be the less successful in a Job-environment.
- Statistically speaking, of course.
Libra rules 7th
Not 10th

It's a 'love sign' but not a Material one.
Considerable amounts of Earth &/or water would be needed to change that.

That would be all, folks!
Bye!

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The only thing is she didn't mention he's particularly successful in his job/career specifically. Maybe he is. But she's talking about how he interacts with people.

posted October 31, 2014 02:36 PM            

Which may be related to topics like:

* Need for acceptance.
* Need of recognition.
* Association (partnership) with those who can 'Help you' to get an improvement in your career and goals. (Where in some cases the method used doesn't really matter).
* Subsistence Economy.
* Sometimes sucess above morals.
* Appearance
* (all this) In the work-environment, of course.

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Everything related to the tangible World.
Keyword: material

posted October 31, 2014 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by GemBird82:

hmm...
Sorry if it wasn't clear enough.
My fault.
I have many weapons, but sometimes I lack the accuracy to fire.

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Nah. It was probably me. There was a lot there!

posted October 31, 2014 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Leo moon! They love that females flock all over them and get annoyed when they don't.

The problem with winning at his own game is that you hate being fake. I'd bet flattering him would totally do it. But if you can't lie and tell him how great he is while feeling the opposite, it isn't going to work.

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posted October 31, 2014 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Leorpio:
It works both ways. My ex is a Leo moon and she looooves attention from guys. I know another girl with the same sun and moon as her and she also loves attention from guys lol.

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Same goes for people born on the 1, 10, 19th, 28, or a #1 lifepath.

They get more than annoyed, they can get physical when ignored. I speak from experience with more than a handful of these people - I know how to **** them off.

posted October 31, 2014 11:27 PM            

Someone I found untrustworthy was Aries Sun, Sag Moon. Two like that actually, and the latter with Venus in Pisces. Leo Moon may have ulterior motives but you'll generally see that more when its combined with a cardinal placement. Specifically Cancer or Libra.

posted November 01, 2014 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Same goes for people born on the 1, 10, 19th, 28, or a #1 lifepath.

They get more than annoyed, they can get physical when ignored.

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Actually, that kind of attention makes me uncomfortable; I am highly introverted and sensitive to energy...I don't like being the center of attention under any circumstance, and the only time I'll "get physical" is if someone is physically harassing/threatening me.

posted November 01, 2014 03:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Sounds like Venus connected to the outer planets.

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