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Topic: Can you rank the Mars sign from strongest to weakest?
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PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 02:58 PM
  
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well,I guess i did come off a little defensive. Could you tell from my response?  I just think that "strength"- when measured in gains for oneself instead of benefiting all. Power "over" instead of power within, are all the reasons why the world is the way it is today.  But list on guys. To each his own.
Hahaha, just a tiny bit...  But honestly, it's okay. I get it because I too get defensive when almost everyone on LL says Pisces are cheaters I agree with you 100%. I'm not very self-assertive and am definitely more on the peace-loving end of the spectrum than the "might is right" one. The source of many of our geopolitical, sociopolitical, socioeconomic, and ecological global issues today boil down to: love of self over love of humanity, love of money over love of wisdom. Do your thing because not a single one of your positive qualities are in practical "detriment" as theoretical astrology might suggest. As I said, phenomenologically, no sign or placement is weak.  REJOICE ARIES23  !!!
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starmoon
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posted November 04, 2014 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Hahaha, just a tiny bit... But honestly, it's okay. I get it because I too get defensive when almost everyone on LL says Pisces are cheaters
are you female? a majority of the posters on LL are female and so their experiences with pisces as cheater are likely with the male of your sign and perhaps not the females who may not be like the males? IP: Logged |
DrewMann
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posted November 04, 2014 04:22 PM
Examples of "weak" mars in piscesChe Guevara
Vincent Van Gogh
Tom Hanks
Mitt Romney
David Beckham
Anthony Hopkins
Steve McQueen
Burt Reynolds
Denzel Washington
Anderson Silva (MMA)
LeBaron James
John Cena (WWA)
The Undertaker (WWA)
Annie Lennox
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
LL Cool J
Rosie O'Donnell
Lewis Hamilton
Martina Navratilova
Francisco Franco
James Garner
Bjorn Borg
Ethel Kennedy
Chris Evert
Josh Brolin BWA HAHAHAHA!!! Suck on that Haters!!!!
Ivana Trump
Glenn Close
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next to neptune
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posted November 04, 2014 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Well,I guess i did come off a little defensive. Could you tell from my response? I just think that "strength"- when measured in gains for oneself instead of benefiting all. Power "over" instead of power within, are all the reasons why the world is the way it is today. But list on guys. To each his own.
Of course it is narrow, there is also the aspects and house position, but I meant just the mars in it's pure form. When not seeing on anything else than just the sign (and house position) IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted November 04, 2014 04:29 PM
LOL@ Drew!IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted November 04, 2014 04:33 PM
If you cant even focus at ONE trait in astrology, then how the f do you even get to learn about the difference from any signs, any planets, anything astrology at all? I know a chart is complex, but it is put together by different parts and by focusing on these different parts we can learn more .... if we cant focus and have to look at "the whole chart all at once" all the time... then wtf is the point by looking at all? If you know what I'm trying to say... I dont just see it as narrow, I see it as focusing on ONE thing, something we should all be able to do sometimes (maybe it's just a virgo thing to look into details) IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted November 04, 2014 05:01 PM
mars in pisces is a feature in charts of serial killers ... I think piscean energy is too abstract and that's why people put it really low on the list.I haven't met one in person but I imagine when they are in rage, the native's anger would find no boundaries Taurus or fixed mars are never terribly weak because fixed quality allows staying power. I'd say Cancer mars is the "weakest" because of the emotional attachment. Libra mars can detach itself and be more strategic IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 05:02 PM
Hey, I have plenty of Virgo but I'm just saying...
They are not really weak or strong in my view.
They Focus on this direction or that, or energy is funneled a different way. Given the right "arena", a Libra Mars may far surpasses an Aries Mars.
I see them as specialized mars, not weak strong.
Perhaps it is I who is actually more detail focused here. But you have plenty of lists here already to satisfy your generalized approach to this. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
are you female? a majority of the posters on LL are female and so their experiences with pisces as cheater are likely with the male of your sign and perhaps not the females who may not be like the males?
Yes, ma'am! I'm a female. I'm perfectly aware of that but I'm not subscribing to double-standards and gender bias, especially when we're discussing astrology. There was someone here, who, not long ago even said Pisces men and women, alike, are cheaters and untrustworthy. I don't advocate this line of logic because it is one that places fault on the essence of the sign (Pisces) instead of the individual. My dad, like me, is a Pisces Sun, Mercury (Rx), and Venus. He is the most loving, sacrificial, and devoted man I've ever known. It's okay to speak about individual experiences of any sign. It's good to share observations. But calling a sign a "cheater" is quite a slanderous, powerful remark. Perhaps it is my fault that I take words seriously but I think it is absolutely unethical to accuse any sign of being a cheater, manipulator, player, liar, abusive etc. It's counterproductive to the project of astrology and it just creates unnecessary internet drama. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 04, 2014 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
I think what OP meant was what sign is weakest, not in a phenomenological embodied sense, but rather in that it expresses the traditional qualities of Mars most discordantly. At least, that's how I understood it. No one is equivocating Libra Mars with worst Mars but when it does come to Martian energy, much like Pisces, it does not express it as naturally. Everyone you listed were exceptional contributors to human history, from politics to music. No one doubts that for one second, not I. But as you said in your own reflection, being peace-loving and controlled is a Libra Mars thing but not a Martian quality. Mars in Aries takes no **** and would step into the scene, even impulsively, to compete and combat (whether mentally or physically) with someone. They have no problems whatsoever with self-assertion. Pisces and Libra Mars don't because they much prefer harmony and peace and well-manneredness over winning a fight. Don't take it too harshly. Own and harness your energy no matter what it is.
This was exactly the point I was trying to make when I made my list about what signs express the marsian energy most naturally, according to what Mars represents. This is how every planet's sign placement ranking should be interpreted. How "natural" is that planet's energy manifested. Every placement has it's own strength and weaknesses. Just because it's a bad sign for a planet, doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad placement. Therefore, every Mars sign has it's strengths and weaknesses, but this still doesn't mean that there is no strong or weak Mars signs, because it will then be invalid, as every planet does not function most naturally in every sign. And when determining how strong or weak a planet is in a chart, is by analyzing how naturally (according to that specific planet's representation) it's energies will be filtered (especially when determining which signs are better or worse for Mars) and utilized. I personally like Libra Mars the best out of every Mars sign placement... and what do you know, it's last on my marsian list. Why? Because its not about which one I like, but about which signs express that planet's energy (in this case, Mars) most naturally, according to what that planet represents. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 06:56 PM
Oh goodness.... IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted November 04, 2014 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
If you cant even focus at ONE trait in astrology, then how the f do you even get to learn about the difference from any signs, any planets, anything astrology at all? I know a chart is complex, but it is put together by different parts and by focusing on these different parts we can learn more .... if we cant focus and have to look at "the whole chart all at once" all the time... then wtf is the point by looking at all? If you know what I'm trying to say... I dont just see it as narrow, I see it as focusing on ONE thing, something we should all be able to do sometimes (maybe it's just a virgo thing to look into details)
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Marandana
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posted November 04, 2014 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by theunknown:
mars in pisces is a feature in charts of serial killers ... I think piscean energy is too abstract and that's why people put it really low on the list.I haven't met one in person but I imagine when they are in rage, the native's anger would find no boundaries
My dad is a Mars pisces, he even has aries sun, they are kind of weak-willed somehow, he has trouble with alcohol and it's hard of course, for him to stay away from it. I'm a Mars capricorn and when I say NO, it's NO. There's no way I can change my mind. I consider myself strong-willed. When pisces mars is angry, no worries, they forget it the next minute, they don't stay mad for long, they just can't.
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PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Oh goodness....
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theunknown
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posted November 04, 2014 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by Marandana:
My dad is a Mars pisces, he even has aries sun, they are kind of weak-willed somehow, he has trouble with alcohol and it's hard of course, for him to stay away from it. I'm a Mars capricorn and when I say NO, it's NO. There's no way I can change my mind. I consider myself strong-willed.When pisces mars is angry, no worries, they forget it the next minute, they don't stay mad for long, they just can't.
Im a cap mars too it conjunct venus, uranus and neptune though haha, and sextile pluto too. I have trouble finding my cap mars sometimes lol
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Odette
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posted November 04, 2014 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Oh goodness....
My thoughts exactly lol IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted November 04, 2014 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Oh goodness....
Is that directed at what I said? IP: Logged |
Iced8Ace
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posted November 04, 2014 09:28 PM
My list as follows:1.Capricorn Mars
2.Scorpio Mars
3.Aries Mars
4.Leo Mars
5.Sagittarius Mars
6.Gemini Mars
7.Taurus Mars
8.Aquarius Mars
9.Virgo Mars
10.Pisces Mars
11.Libra Mars
12.Cancer Mars If you're offended I apologize but I really doubt anyone here is saying you have no ambition but rather that others potentially have more ambition than you because of the sign mars is in. Aspects change everything. Ex, A Scorpio Mars can be watered down with a square from Neptune and a Pisces Mars can be charged by opposition from Pluto in Virgo etc IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Is that directed at what I said?
Just this whole thing. We on LL (of which I am a part of) are a strange breed.
One thread we're looking at orbs and houses, the next thread we're making lists and the world be damned if you don't follow whichever one we're in the mood for. But I get it. It's something to do. I'm not AT ALL offended, if anyone thinks that. I was just thinking deeper but I guess this is a list thread so dammit, KISS! (keep it simple stupid) IP: Logged |
arcturiann
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posted November 04, 2014 09:45 PM
I know many ambitious people with pisces mars. It doesn't make them less ambitious or assertive in my experience rather than just less confrontational, with a tendency to sublimate anger which can make them appear as if they are "weak", but the reality seems to be more so that they just do not care to fight. Libra and cancer mars on the other hand, when they get angry the anger is real and it is there but it is expressed so poorly that it gets very passive aggressive and as a result it becomes very hard for them to deal with the anger appropriately, whereas with pisces, its almost like the anger just disappears somewhere or is swept under the rug and forgotten, maybe this is due to the mutable nature of pisces compared to the cardinal nature of cancer and libra. Taurus mars on the other hand just seems very relaxed and easy-going as if there is a huge inertia with this mars (i imagine due to fixed nature), like a giant boulder, very hard for them to get up and finally get moving with something but once they build up enough momentum, the force is barreling and strong. But it seems EXTREMELY hard at times to get this boulder moving. They also seem very stubborn and fixed in their habits and are incapable of taking advice or making positive changes to these fixed habits. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 09:46 PM
Did you just make up that acronym??!?!!?!?!??!?! IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Did you just make up that acronym??!?!!?!?!??!?!
I wish!
But no. Anyway....
I guess I'll apologize for not sticking to the game.
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PisceanDream
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posted November 04, 2014 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I wish!
But no.
YOU WISH??????? I'm dying of laughter right now! I think it should be apparent how ridiculous of an acronym I think this one is.........  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 04, 2014 10:01 PM
Weakest--Mine Mars in cancer
Then mars in LibraToo tired to order them more lol However strongest is Mars in Scorpio followed by Mars in Aries
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DeepFreeze
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posted November 04, 2014 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
YOU WISH??????? I'm dying of laughter right now! I think it should be apparent how ridiculous of an acronym I think this one is.........
We have used it once or twice at work for our newest over-engineered piece of crap. IP: Logged |
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