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Topic: Can you rank the Mars sign from strongest to weakest?
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 05, 2014 08:27 AM
  
 then I'll contribute more to your thread by describing my Mars. It's in Libra 0, the "weakest" rank in your list. However, I can kill an army of Aries Marses with my teeth only, if necessary - at least the intention will be there.It's in the 8th conjunct Pluto (5) and nothing else as planets. I can be very diplomatic, I guess, but also very blunt. There are moments when I don't know what to choose, out of two choices, because both of them seem equally attractive. I don't consider my Mars weak and other Libra Marses I know as weak: just a different manner of aggression/going after things, equally efficient. For example, Libra Marses can be very good friends and people pleasing, but they're very connected to justice and fairness, and when they face injustice, they become the worst enemy/adversary one can have. Many lifetime freedom/peace fighters and world leaders have this placement. Examples: Nelson Mandela, Dalai Lama, Abraham Lincoln, Pope John Paul, Pope Francis, Winston Churchill, Genghis Han etc.
"Aggressive", charismatic personalities such as Margaret Thatcher, Eminem, Freddie Mercury, Kobe Bryant, Billy the Kid, Vin Diesel, Whoopi Goldberg, Dolph Lundgren, Kat Von D etc also have this placement.
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DeepFreeze
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posted November 05, 2014 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I don't really get the drama either... I think it's an interesting discussion, simple as that. It's a virgo thing, again.
DF is kinda virgo-ish, critical, sharp (the mars-mercury conjunction probably) but the leo-drama also shines through (evrybody gets offended - or DO they actually get offended?) No one knows, everyone talks about it What do you guys think about virgo mars by the way? It's not really a strong mars I would say, but they sure like discussions and dont seem afraid of going into them constantly
I was basically getting to leeloo's point in the post below yours but people create the drama based on my words. I genuinely had no idea that people would react the way that they did, honest.
So you can say I'm a complete natural, OR, pin the drama on yourselves. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 05, 2014 08:45 AM
You know what? Eff that... it's all you guys.
I said basically the same thing as LeeLoo and you all get bent out of shape. Go look, I did, and was even nice about it. People here ALWAYS do that to me, have you noticed? Then pin on me. Nothing new there.
I will stand by this thought regardless of arguements made against it. Actually, completely serious. If anyone would like to, go to my first post where I described how I felt about it and point out where I gave reason to get this kind of reaction. I haven't changed the post, not a single word of it, and I swear, I don't know where it went wrong with that post. I don't see the problem at all.
Feel free to pick it apart so that I can have some understanding. You couldn't stand that someone didn't agree with your thinking, 100%. That's no my fault. That's yours. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted November 05, 2014 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I will stand by this thought regardless of arguements made against it.
Go, DF!!! 
I don't know what's happening here lol but someone thinks Virgo Mars is "weak"?? Haha how funny! When working, Virgo Mars is the last one standing. Plus, the most efficient, technical, ingenious Mars.
As I was saying, I don't think this weak vs strong approach is the best. It would be much more interesting to consider "what are the strengths/weaknesses of Mars in each sign?" Much closer to reality, IMO. ------------------
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DeepFreeze
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posted November 05, 2014 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Go, DF!!!
I don't know what's happening here lol but someone thinks Virgo Mars is "weak"?? Haha how funny! When working, Virgo Mars is the last one standing. Plus, the most efficient, technical, ingenious Mars.
As I was saying, I don't think this weak vs strong approach is the best. It would be much more interesting to consider "what are the strengths/weaknesses of Mars in each sign?" Much closer to reality, IMO.
Well, and I even understand that Mars is "weak" here. You know? I never even mentioned it. It wasn't about that. It's like electricity.... if it has a place to go, it's going, and the quickest route there regardless of if it's our intended path for it or not, and this is how I see Mars. A big bundle of energy, and (Depending on where it's in the chart, aspects, etc) that damn energy is going SOMEWHERE for goodness sake, and it won't be "weak". Not in that direction of the chart! My Merc/Mars conjunction THE PERFECT example. Look what my simple words do? They come across confrontational, arouse aggression, intended or not... great example of Mars right there actually.  That's all that I was saying. But damned be all who have this way of thinking. People think I was offended. LOL
I actually DON'T like arguing, well, MOST of the time,  but I WILL do it. I'm not afraid of it, that's true.
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florence
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posted November 05, 2014 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
You know what? Eff that... it's all you guys.
I said basically the same thing as LeeLoo and you all get bent out of shape. Go look, I did, and was even nice about it. People here ALWAYS do that to me, have you noticed? Then pin on me. Nothing new there.
I will stand by this thought regardless of arguements made against it. Actually, completely serious. If anyone would like to, go to my first post where I described how I felt about it and point out where I gave reason to get this kind of reaction. I haven't changed the post, not a single word of it, and I swear, I don't know where it went wrong with that post. I don't see the problem at all.
Feel free to pick it apart so that I can have some understanding. You couldn't stand that someone didn't agree with your thinking, 100%. That's no my fault. That's yours.
Fair enough. I didn't read that page today .. Just from second page so maybe I misunderstood there was antagonism. Sorry if so. IP: Logged |
PisceanDream
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posted November 05, 2014 08:22 PM
@DF: Thanks for satisfying my curiosity! Also, not sure how and why sh*t hit the fan, but don't sweat it! I know you meant no offense.IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 05, 2014 08:47 PM
^Same here.I apologize if I misunderstood what you said, DeepFreeze I felt the need to stand by my point that a rank list for "sign placements" for a planet is not simple, generalized or narrow-thinking. It's one consideration for determining the overall strength of a planet. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 05, 2014 09:23 PM
Nah don't worry about it. I'm not upset, not about this. I am in a mood to murder. That's something else. I'll take responsibility.
I had zero intention for any drama and for that, well, I hold that to a few others. However, if you drive to the root, I did deviate from the idea of the thread - technically.
We each live in a different world really, yet the same. My world happens to be one in which I am frequently misunderstood. That's my reality. It happens quite a lot, real life too!
This is one Leo who is not so proud that he can't apologize.
So next to Neptune, I'm sorry for the role that I played in derailing your thread. With that, I think the best thing is if we can just get this back on track.
Please.
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Nine
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From: The Cusp of Love
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posted November 05, 2014 09:40 PM
Okay, I'll make a list but I'll group them by element.1. Aries
2. Sagittarius
3. Leo Mars in strong and proud in Leo, but I believe it lacks the daring of the other two signs. 1. Capricorn
2. Taurus
3. Virgo 1. Gemini
2. Aquarius
3. Libra This one was a toughie, but I've had more experience with Gemini, than the other two. Oddly, I've met many a dooshe with MIL. Mars in Gemini, I've observed, is way more active than the other two - fun, sporty, risky... 1. Scorpio
2. Pisces
3. Cancer While I believe Mars is at his weakest in Pisces & Cancer, I voted Cancer as the weakest because fear of hurt may impede Mars' forward drive here. In Pisces, while still weak, Mars may be oblivious to such things.
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arcturiann
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From: Titan
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted November 05, 2014 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What exactly does weak vs strong Mars mean? Mars behaves differently in each sign, it has different action/aggression/initiation/drive strategies, but why would this mean weak vs. strong?You need a frontline soldier or leader, you choose an Aries Mars. You need a spy or a strategist or a EU leader, you choose a Libra Mars. You need a spiritual leader to captivate the crowds, you choose a Pisces Mars etc
This!! I wanted to come here earlier and describe each mars sign as its own type of warrior. I love to imagine each planet like, the sun is the king, the moon the queen, venus is the princess, and mars is the soldier lol, analyzing each chart like, what kind of soldier does this person have within their kingdom? what kind of queen? etc. IP: Logged |
CupOfDavid
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From: Canada
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posted November 05, 2014 10:16 PM
I'm a Taurus Mars and though I may be emotionally strong, I'm lazy. I have lofty goals, but almost always need a fire lit under me to get me started on things.I also have a Fire void (minus my Ascendant), so that could play into all of that as well. However, two of the most successful and famous artists in music -- the King and Queen of Pop, MJ and Madonna -- have Mars in Taurus. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 06, 2014 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
This!! I wanted to come here earlier and describe each mars sign as its own type of warrior. I love to imagine each planet like, the sun is the king, the moon the queen, venus is the princess, and mars is the soldier lol, analyzing each chart like, what kind of soldier does this person have within their kingdom? what kind of queen? etc.
I'd love to see your description for each sign
I think the same: Mars is the type of warrior for each sign, neither weaker nor stronger, just different kinds of strengths and weaknesses. ------------------
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Lonake
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posted November 06, 2014 09:57 AM
Capricorn
Aries
Leo
Scorpio
Aquarius
Sagittarius
Libra
Virgo
Gemini
Cancer
Taurus
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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted November 06, 2014 10:40 AM
I honestly don't think Libra mars is "weak". This placement just softens Mars's quality of impulsiveness. Like LeeLoo said, we only act IF it is necessary. We think things over before taking action and weigh the pros and cons. That's the biggest difference between Mars in Aries and Mars in Libra. We act if something is worth taking action for. If we don't think it is worth our time, we just don't do anything like the lazy mars we are. Libra stands for justice, so if I see injustice in any way, I'll freaking bolt out of my seat and punch an idiot in the face. House placements for Mars do matter, too. For example, I have a 5th house mars, and I do like to spend my energy on pleasurable things. I also act impulsively sometimes if I think something is "fun", but not with pointless arguments. There was this one time a lady took one of my clothes and caught her red-handed. I did not just stand there and let her take it. I confronted her about it and she fought me for it. I fought back and remained calm while she was all fired up about the whole thing. That's one thing about Libra mars--we stay calm even in moments of high pressure.
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tgem
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posted November 06, 2014 12:05 PM
I hope I NEVER have to deal with a Cancer Mars again (especially a male). UGH..the WORST....speaking from personal experience, but I have a mars in Leo sextile Pluto. IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted November 06, 2014 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by tgem:
I hope I NEVER have to deal with a Cancer Mars again (especially a male). UGH..the WORST....speaking from personal experience, but I have a mars in Leo sextile Pluto.
Did his mars trine pluto? IP: Logged |
tgem
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posted November 06, 2014 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Did his mars trine pluto?
Nope, he like me, had Mars in the 3rd house but Rx. It was trine his moon and opposite Mercury. IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted November 06, 2014 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by tgem:
Nope, he like me, had Mars in the 3rd house but Rx. It was trine his moon and opposite Mercury.
Oh hahaha, it's a cancer mars retrograde. I see. Good fun! Cancer mars without being retrograde isn't that bad. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted November 06, 2014 10:14 PM
Nah, my experience with Mars in Cancer have been terrible. They can be really impossible. Suspicious, vindictive, spiteful, paranoid, vengeful, cry-baby, schizo - all the stuff that's suppose to describe the shadow side of Scorpio was found in this placement.The worst of the worst were - Virgo, Gemini, Pisces. People swear they're darlings, but to see that I'd have to forgive rotten behavior (like personal attacks, & "blowing off steam"), I can't, when I don't all goes to hell. IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted November 06, 2014 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Nah, my experience with Mars in Cancer have been terrible. They can be really impossible. Suspicious, vindictive, spiteful, paranoid, vengeful, cry-baby, schizo - all the stuff that's suppose to describe the shadow side of Scorpio was found in this placement.The worst of the worst were - Virgo, Gemini, Pisces. People swear they're darlings, but to see that I'd have to forgive rotten behavior (like personal attacks, & "blowing off steam"), I can't, when I don't all goes to hell.
They can be stingy and use underhanded tactics too lol. Since they are so passive ha!
The thing is I have cap mars and I find their behaviors to be very funny
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arcturiann
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posted November 07, 2014 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Nah, my experience with Mars in Cancer have been terrible. They can be really impossible. Suspicious, vindictive, spiteful, paranoid, vengeful, cry-baby, schizo - all the stuff that's suppose to describe the shadow side of Scorpio was found in this placement.
My experience has been similar unfortunately. I have a cancer mars friend who I confronted about her behavior, she told me when she's mad at someone she just gives them the silent treatment and eventually they "figure out why i'm mad at them". Now I know all cancer mars folks aren't like this, but i've seen quite a few people who are, and I keep wanting to tell them there is nothing wrong with just being open about your anger and honest. Instead it's like they hold it in and act all vindictive playing these quite obvious passive aggressive bullsh*t manipulative emotional games to get back at you which is weak sh*t. They are not as good at the passive aggressive stuff as libra mars are so it just comes off as huffy puffy and stupid.
Again this is to no offense of any cancer mars folks here, and my experience is probably biased towards people with a sun-mars square as well on top of a cancer mars, which just adds to the whole selfishness and ego butthurt behavior. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl
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posted November 07, 2014 03:49 AM
For example my father has Mars in Libra and he has Aries sun, they form an opposition. He is a national sailing racer and he is very active. He can get super mad when he is faced with injustice and it doesnt even have to be about him he intervenes and gets super mad when he sees injustice between other people as well. However he always end up being the bad person because people make up with each other and because he reacts too forcefully people get annoyed. It's not that when the Mars is in a "weak" position the person is not martian, my father is very martian but when he acts too much like his mars it end up hurting him.IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted November 07, 2014 06:22 AM
^^^^ Yes, I see things in myself that both of you have said.
Silence, letting them figure it out.
But sometimes I choose that route because I have a habit of saying things that leave permanent damage. Being aware of this, I try to avoid arguments sometimes. I VERY frequently am quite clueless as to how what I say will impact people. As in, to what degree it might upset them, etc.
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theunknown
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posted November 07, 2014 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
My experience has been similar unfortunately. I have a cancer mars friend who I confronted about her behavior, she told me when she's mad at someone she just gives them the silent treatment and eventually they "figure out why i'm mad at them". Now I know all cancer mars folks aren't like this, but i've seen quite a few people who are, and I keep wanting to tell them there is nothing wrong with just being open about your anger and honest. Instead it's like they hold it in and act all vindictive playing these quite obvious passive aggressive bullsh*t manipulative emotional games to get back at you which is weak sh*t. They are not as good at the passive aggressive stuff as libra mars are so it just comes off as huffy puffy and stupid.
Again this is to no offense of any cancer mars folks here, and my experience is probably biased towards people with a sun-mars square as well on top of a cancer mars, which just adds to the whole selfishness and ego butthurt behavior.
Yeah. One person did this to me and I just pretend that j don't even notice. The saturn in me wanna wait it out and see who's more patient  But these cancer mars break down eventually. Also when faced with challenges, many just back down and crawl in one corner. And I hate that! The mars gets modified by the sun sign tho...
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