posted November 08, 2014 02:38 PM            

1.Chiron conjunct the ASC

Almost all cases of this has been severe bullying. The closer the degree, the worse.

2, Mercury combust the Sun( 1-5 degree orb)

These natives take everything OH so personally. Dealing with them is like dealing with a sunburn. Here, every degree counts. The people with the 4-5 degree orb are very different than those with the exact to 2 degree orb.To put it simply, you have to walk on eggshells around these people.

3. The Moon conjunct Dejanira

This would be my top worst placement. Every case but one has been a person with BPD. The one that was not had severe abuse, including sexual. This aspect seems to fragment a person. It is very sad and the single saddest placement I ever see in the chart.

4. Sun conjunct Saturn

This can severely hamper self confidence. It instills a core level of self doubt and insecurity. Again, the orbs are key. An exact conjunction would be very intense. An orb of 5 degrees or more would be ambient.

5. Nessus conjunct the ASC or North Node

In each case, Nessus breathes down the neck of these people such that they will be abusers until/if they get a hold of it. Only true spiritual measures will work, in my opinion.

6. The Child Asteroid Conjunct Dejanira

This aspect is Moon conjunct Dejanira “light”. It is the same kind of aspect but the abuse seems to be less severe.

7. Water Void

The Water Void is the hardest Void, in my opinion. Subtext is what you pick up under the surface with your emotional radar. Subtext is the central player in most communication.The Water Void misses MUCH subtext. Hence, they don’t seem to have satisfying relationships and don’t really know why. Low water is a less intense version of this. Low water would be generational planets in water.

8 Neptune conjunct the Sun

This often is the aspect of addiction. Neptune weakens the solidity of the self. It weakens the boundaries of the self. This is very painful and addictions often result.

9. Uranus square Mercury

I would put this aspect right up there with Moon conjunct Dejanira for difficulty. This aspect can make the person lose touch with reality. Do all people with this aspect do such? NO. However, it is an aspect that makes one more predisposed . The opposition would be the same effect except much easier.

10. 12th House Planets

posted November 08, 2014 02:43 PM            

Sun conjunct Mercury 0°54
(though of course it is not that much of a rare occurence to have Sun conjunct Mercury).

Mars in 12th house

Of these I consider the Mars the more problematic, and I am not sure if it is a good or bad thing that Mars is conjunct the ASC by 2 degrees

Tr Neptune is currently squaring it (my Mars on 5 Sag), and it is ... not nice. To use an understatement.

posted November 08, 2014 02:50 PM            

I find this thread very similar to the ones in websites like http://www.zergnet.com/
I know Astrology is your job, and this may be part of the 'marketing' .

But I just really hope some sensitive people don't take all of this (and also this kind of threads) TOO seriously.

posted November 08, 2014 02:53 PM            

Neptune conjunct Sun. I'm not particularly addicted to anything, other than sodas, but I can fend it off quite well.

posted November 08, 2014 02:56 PM              

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Originally posted by GemBird82:
Hmm...

I find this thread very similar to the ones in websites like http://www.zergnet.com/

I know Astrology is your job, and this may be part of the 'marketing' .

But I just really hope some sensitive people don't take all of this (and also these kind of threads) TOO seriously

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Yeah I know! LOL

I have three 12th house planets but I don't sweat it.
It IS tough! At least at first. It can be overcome, which to me means to understand it.

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posted November 08, 2014 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
If you really want to know a bad one. Venus in Scorpio Retrograde is hands down one of the worst energies of all I think.

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YES Good call, A!

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posted November 08, 2014 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Oscar Pistorius has that.

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Really?? It is rare.

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posted November 08, 2014 03:11 PM              

Not sure if it's any different having Mercury retrograde. I think I am actually way too lenient in the way that I express my beliefs and opinions. If someone begins to challenge me heavily (or subtly even), I pick up on it and I mirror their interaction with me. Something else, is that I readily react to people who continue to argue using false facts. That get me fired up.

But, in general, I don't usually express my views with many people. You'd have to know me very well to hear my serious opinion on things. I'm usually willing to hear people's opinions and even if I disagree, I wouldn't really comment. I'm not sure if dealing with me is like "dealing with a sunburn".

2. Sun conjunct Saturn 1°28

posted November 08, 2014 03:11 PM            

I agree with 12th house placements. Mars in the 12th house means someone who doesn't have much sexual encounters? I always thought this is what it meant.

posted November 08, 2014 03:12 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Yeah I know! LOL

I have three 12th house planets but I don't sweat it.
It IS tough! At least at first. It can be overcome, which to me means to understand it.

Sometimes "bad" aspects or placements are good ones. It forces growth. I like the idea of growth AT LEAST as much as gifts - possibly more-so.

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My thoughts, exactly.

I'd like to add that in majority of cases those High-tension aspects were ocasionaed by us long ago, somewhere and somehow. (with notable exceptions like in cases where high-tension aspects are just 'lended' as if they were part of a Handicap test)

So, by assuming this counciouss thought.
Improvement comes from ourselves, it becomes a responsability. We decide to improve, it's in our hands.
And not always and only decided by a third-person or entity, nothing new actually.
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posted November 08, 2014 03:14 PM            

12th house jupiter (and chiron)

and chiron conjunct the ascendant! Chiron is my little b***, though I have not suffered from severe bullying... but I was bullied a bit I guess.

posted November 08, 2014 03:15 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have two of these.

Sun conjunct Mercury 0°54
(though of course it is not that much of a rare occurence to have Sun conjunct Mercury).

Mars in 12th house

Of these I consider the Mars the more problematic, and I am not sure if it is a good or bad thing that Mars is conjunct the ASC by 2 degrees

Tr Neptune is currently squaring it (my Mars on 5 Sag), and it is ... not nice. To use an understatement.

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Yeah my mars in 12th conjunct asc.

I'm not an astrological idiot, but I'm still puzzled by this one.

posted November 08, 2014 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Sometimes "bad" aspects or placements are good ones. It forces growth. I like the idea of growth AT LEAST as much as gifts - possibly more-so.

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posted November 08, 2014 03:26 PM            

I would not count this as 12th house but as conj the ASC, DF

There is a great difference!

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posted November 08, 2014 03:35 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Yeah my mars in 12th conjunct asc.

I would not count this as 12th house but as conj the ASC, DF

There is a great difference!

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So kind of like 1st house but a little more subtle?

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posted November 08, 2014 03:48 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
NO, not more subtle. Very strong. You have great assertion. It is a nice placement!

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Sweet because my juno is even closer and conjunct both!

posted November 08, 2014 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yeah. He has a heavy chart.

I agree with 12th house placements. Mars in the 12th house means someone who doesn't have much sexual encounters? I always thought this is what it meant.

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Definitely fits me.

posted November 08, 2014 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Yeah my mars in 12th conjunct asc.

I would not count this as 12th house but as conj the ASC, DF

There is a great difference!

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I have the same.
Well it actually seems like it is both for me.

I can identify with some of the Mars in 12th scenario, including the content of my dreams, but if I need it, it is acztually very easily accessible, and sometimes it will actually bubble up on its own, and I wonder where the energy comes from all of a sudden. But only if I relaly need it to be there.
Taught me a lot of faith in providence. Something everything sorts itself out eventually. Just takes trust and patience on my part, and accepting that I cannot know or understand everything at the time I want to; but I will at the time that is right.

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