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SparklingSag
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posted November 10, 2014 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear all

My SO has this....combined with soft sweet pisces sun and airy libra moon,

BUT sometimes I don't know if he cares about me...I have proud leo moon so do need attention. My libra mars and venus softens the drama a bit.

What's people's experience of heavy aqua men?

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posted November 10, 2014 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg my boyfriend is a pisces with aqua Venus and mars too. But he's got a firey aries moon.

He is a very sweet caring man. But I don't ascribe any of that to his aqua placements lol. I think thats all his pisces sun and aries moon. I think the Aqua love planets kind of makes in an alien when it comes to love and sex. He doesn't know how to show that he cares either. But I think pisces is partially to blame because they expect you to know rather than them having to prove to you. And aqua is awkward and shy with love so you really need to be able to simply pick up on the love rather than ahve it shoved in your face. Though I understand where you're coming from. Sometimes you need the demonstration and declaration of love that an aqua venus would find silly and unnecessary. My boyfriend has aries mars so in critical moments it bursts through, but with a libra moon things might be different.

SO with pisces sun and aqua love planets and libra moon. You have a very very extremely passive guy that would rather have you dote on him. I'm not sure how that works wth your leo moon. Seems like he's the type that wants you to fawn over him while he relishes in the dream world that you are the singularly create for him. I've noticed men with aqua placemnts won't budge until you show then that you are ready to die for them. They want to be 100 sure of thier investment before they take the leap themwelves. And I don't know if some ever make it to that point. Aquas are so commitment phobic because they are so stubborn once they decide on a thing.

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posted November 10, 2014 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Married to one, but mine has a Cappy sun, which makes him more reserved and downright cold at times. And I have a Leo Asc so trust me when I say I understand the NEED for attention.

It's very hold/cold or on/off. If you pay attention, you will start to notice he may be that way about many things, not just you.

You might be used to being appreciated / noticed for your looks. These guys see things differently. Sure, they think you're hot, but they're not going to repeat it to you over and over. They will silently worship how you twirl your spaghetti or how you stopped your car to rescue that injured cat on the side of the road. They may giggle inside at how you load your dishwasher... who knows with these dudes!

I caught mine staring at me once while I was taking care of one of my birds. I asked "what?" because his expression was quite dreamy. He said he really loves how I take care of my birds. I said, "I just do what I have to do" and he was like, "no, you get up every day at sunrise when they start chirping to greet them and feed them... that's something."

No, he isn't romantic. Sometimes, he says things that are cute but most of the time, he's quiet. He'll come across as more of a friend or buddy because they value that over the physical / romantic aspects. He likes to goof off for my attention. He's definitely quite weird.

You may even notice some odd hobbies (watching car crash scenes or "faces of death' type of stuff) or some persistent sexual fantasies (e.g. going nuts over women in tall boots).

Any of this sounding familiar?

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posted November 10, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Sometimes you need the demonstration and declaration of love that an aqua venus would find silly and unnecessary.

Yup. Because I'm very direct, I asked him MANY times if he loved me, why he's with me, etc. and every time he kind of laughed and said things like, "I'm still here, aren't I?" and "you talk a load of crap sometimes, don't you?"

He basically acts as if I am crazy for even asking.

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posted November 10, 2014 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My SO is quiet about his affection until specific moments, when it ALL comes out (Piscean romantic for sure), he loves technology and figuring out how things work. Cause he has libra moon and I have libra venus and mars most of time it works, and I have Cappie Asc (saggie sun tho!). He does look at me with adoring looks sometimes. When it all comes out, I realise he THINKS a lot, just doesn't always say it.

Told me other day, he is glad to make me happy very sweet,

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posted November 10, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
Married to one, but mine has a Cappy sun, which makes him more reserved and downright cold at times. And I have a Leo Asc so trust me when I say I understand the NEED for attention.


YES, relate to this! I know he cares, he is intuitive pisces so FEELS me but isn't so vocal.

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posted November 10, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
Yup. Because I'm very direct, I asked him MANY times if he loved me, why he's with me, etc. and every time he kind of laughed and said things like, "I'm still here, aren't I?" and "you talk a load of crap sometimes, don't you?"

He basically acts as if I am crazy for even asking.


this is called being emotionally stingy, and he's a very lucky guy that you even married him. i would never - again - after being with so many aqua venus/mars/mercury men fall into this trap. if a man cannot verbally express how he feels when you ask for it, forget it. let him be unemotional or fawn over his tech toys that way, or his car, or his bromances, but you can't get away with this with a partner and expect a healthy relationship. perhaps it's why most aqua venus men end up single. all the poor misunderstood aquas..., but if they cannot get on board with relationships (and many cannot) they end up alone, and rightfully so. many psychology books/dating books, etc. have done studies on this stuff and they say that when a man cannot compliment or express affection for a woman and have his words AND actions match, it's hopeless. if you have to pry it out of him... emotionally stingy. and, "oh i am with you, that should be enough." i have heard that from every aqua, and that is not affection or love, that is an excuse for "I am unable to say how i feel", and when he finally does leave, guess what.. well, he never said he loved you anyway, right? it makes it so much easier for them to leave and find another "friend," cuz that is really all you are.

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posted November 10, 2014 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am on board with starmoon. Poor misunderstood aquas but if they really want to be in a relationship and make the one they love happy they'll wise up and change. I have issues opening up but I know that I have to in order to be understood myself. If these guys want to be in a relationship they need to learn to be in touch with thier emotions.

"I'm still here aren't i" is kind of dismissive and seems like a way for the guy to have one foot in the Crack of the door. But I might be reading too much into it.

To be honest. Love is not enough. I can't get by on the understanding that I am loved. I need more. Interesting thing is that he demands a lot but he is very sparse with his affections. Don't know what to make of it.

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posted November 10, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AmelieRose81
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posted November 11, 2014 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmelieRose81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would an Aqua moon also show these distant traits in a relationship?

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posted November 11, 2014 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think maybe that's my issue with aqua placemnts. Too much talk and idealism but no proof. Air is so a
insubstantial. I have earth venus and mars. I think air and earth are the hardest to mix. My aqua venus and mars boyfrend pics up on subliminal cues... except they're usually wrong. But I've noticed that in Pisces, they'll misinterpret things to the way they belive them to be. I've known a few pisces guys in my life that thought women were all over them when the women were just being nice and polite. A pisces girl that thinKS she's gods gift to men because shell sleep with anyone. And my pisces friend that just misinterprets everything and thinks people are not genuine when the people are just acting that way cause theyre tired or in a hurry. Like I see a lot of them trust the wrong person. But maybe it's thier love of suffering? X.x

I think an aqua moon would be even more distant than aqua venus and mars. Because the moon is the core emotions while venus and mars are how he expresses his love and actions.

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posted November 12, 2014 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha some of you women need to find an aqua man with moon in taurus in the 3rd like me lol. I'm very affectionate. My mom always brags that i'm the warmest of her 3 children. And my siblings are a cancer and leo. That alone should tell you something. Lol oh and I have venus in aquarius and mars in gemini. Not all air influenced men are cold

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posted November 12, 2014 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Haha some of you women need to find an aqua man with moon in taurus in the 3rd like me lol. I'm very affectionate. My mom always brags that i'm the warmest of her 3 children. And my siblings are a cancer and leo. That alone should tell you something. Lol oh and I have venus in aquarius and mars in gemini. Not all air influenced men are cold

i'm sure 100% of all aquas will agree they are also affectionate. but it's the manner of the affection that doesn't resonate with a majority of people and their expectations for romance and affection. every aqua can cuddle and kiss and give hugs and even occasionally say a kind or loving word. but in a marriage or true partnership you shouldn't be getting breadcrumbs on the whim of another's fancy; it needs to be done with regularity, which i personally doubt any aqua can do. family isn't exactly the best judge of close intimacies as they are predisposed to like you and say nice things, mostly.

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posted November 13, 2014 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
i'm sure 100% of all aquas will agree they are also affectionate. but it's the manner of the affection that doesn't resonate with a majority of people and their expectations for romance and affection. every aqua can cuddle and kiss and give hugs and even occasionally say a kind or loving word. but in a marriage or true partnership you shouldn't be getting breadcrumbs on the whim of another's fancy; it needs to be done with regularity, which i personally doubt any aqua can do. family isn't exactly the best judge of close intimacies as they are predisposed to like you and say nice things, mostly.

Starmoon,
No offense but I think I know myself better than you do. You have to look at the whole chart before you judge someone. You also have to look at the synastry and composite between two people because different people bring out different sides of a person. I think with the right synastry even the coldest fish can become passionate. But I think you have to look at the person's moon first. In my case I have a taurus moon in the 3rd. The moon is exalted in taurus and gives a person a sensual and romantic nature. And my moon is in the 3rd and that means I'm very vocal about my feelings. Which means if I love somebody I'm going to tell them. I may be an aqua sun,venus,and ascendant but I have a huge romantic streak. Like I said You have to look at the whole chart. But you can continue to pigeon hole aqua people if you want to.

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posted November 13, 2014 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 13, 2014 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and they are subject to change, since Aquarius can be an erratic sign.

Are you sure you aren't thinking of a sag or gemini man when you say this? Lol J/K but seriously! Why is that all the other fixed signs have a reputation for being dependable and loyal while aquas basically get grouped with the mutable signs? Aquarius is a fixed sign and all the fixed signs are generally consistent. I have scorpio, leo,and taurus friends and it's been my experience that we all share that same level of consistency and dependability. That's probably why we get along so well. I have no time for wishy washy or flaky people.

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posted November 13, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sorry, may I bump in, to ask how do you know if your Moon is in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd?
I'm new to astrology, so I'm still learning.

I have a Gemini Moon, it sure give me the bubbly, talkative traits. And my Moon square my Sun too, no wonder why my sun traits never show.
But how do I know my Gemini Moon is at where? 1st, 2nd, 3rd where?



Well do you know your time of birth?

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posted November 13, 2014 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starmoon:
i'm sure 100% of all aquas will agree they are also affectionate. but it's the manner of the affection that doesn't resonate with a majority of people and their expectations for romance and affection. every aqua can cuddle and kiss and give hugs and even occasionally say a kind or loving word. but in a marriage or true partnership you shouldn't be getting breadcrumbs on the whim of another's fancy; it needs to be done with regularity, which i personally doubt any aqua can do. family isn't exactly the best judge of close intimacies as they are predisposed to like you and say nice things, mostly.

Well if my exes all thought I was too affectionate to the point of being smothering. I think romantic relationships are a good judge of who's affectionate or not. And I've dated people with "affectionate" sun signs. Still I haven't been loving to most people I've dated simply because it takes me an extremely long time to trust someone like that. Maybe most people are thinking the Aqua person is cold when in reality they're just not that into them? But it might be different with someone wth moon or venus is aqua.

The manner of affection? This I don't underatand. Maybe it's a love language thing. I would much rather have a few moments of intense deep meaningful affection than constant affection all the time.

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posted November 13, 2014 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aquaguy, your Moon doesn't count, it's still governed by an Aquarius planet

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posted November 13, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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aquaguy, your Moon doesn't count, it's still governed by an Aquarius planet


So..........

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posted November 13, 2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you don't realize how Aquariously cold you are

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posted November 13, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not cold lol

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posted November 13, 2014 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^That's why you have so many issues in your love life.

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Maybe most people are thinking the Aqua person is cold when in reality they're just not that into them? But it might be different with someone wth moon or venus is aqua.

Nah, they're cold. I know this because when I pull away having been frost-bitten, they warm up, seek me out, make themself available. I am Venus in Taurus, so perhaps that's the source of "our" problems.

This ^^ Venus in Aquarius person I'm dealing with is closest with a Sun in Aquarius & another person with Moon in Aquarius. These are the folk they get on with effortlessly.

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posted November 13, 2014 07:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's easier to call someone cold than to realize that they're just not that into you. Some people are 100 percent into every peraon they'll ever be with. Some people just don't get all that excited over someone unless they're something very special.

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