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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 15, 2014 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
So, I have a theory that I think is pretty solid but I wanted to test it out here and see.

From what I've observed, a person's Descendant is a reflector of a dominant planet/influence in the parent. And we develop our Ascendant,the opposite sign, in childhood in order to provide a balancing effect in our relationship with our parental figures. Like, "You're this way and I'm the other way."

Like with Capricorn Rising, one or both of the parents will have personal planets in Cancer and/or a strongly emphasized Moon or 4th House. The Capricorn Rising child has to become emotionally mature, maybe even stoic, in order to cope with a parent who's quite emotionally needy or stunted on some level.

Then, they'll keep "meeting" their parents through their Descendant,constantly getting involved in relationships with people who embody more of the dysfunctional Cancer traits until they can work out those issues around the parents.

Then, relationships run more smoothly and they can integrate their Descendant better into their own personalities (instead of constantly claiming they're not like their parents or will never be like them, because this is ironically often a way of cursing ourselves and repeating their patterns).

The same thing, I think, is applicable with any planets in the 7th House. One of the parents probably has a personal planet in the sign the planet rules or is strong in that planet's energy.

Does this work for anyone else?


This idea is scrumptious.Really love it.

But don't you think that it could go to more than just sign placements and the relationships with parents?

Perhaps even the relationship that you have with the external environment and everything else that is NOT you?

As a Taurus Asc,I see the world as too extreme(Scorpio);either too sexual or too fanatical about puritanical beliefs.

As such,my prerogative is always to seek moderation in the way of bringing pleasure (in too conservative places) or slowness to anger (in places of unnecessary violence).

Now with Cancer Asc,the world out there(7th)would be perceived as hard and cold(Cap).They would seek to make it more caring and nourishing.(Cancer)

Conversely to the Cap Asc,the world out (7th)there is unstable and unpredictable (Cancer).They would seek to bring order,rules and structure to it.

To Gemini,the world out there is too wide and multi-faceted(Sag).They would seek to bring common ideas and neighborly relations to it.(Gem Dsc) etc.

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Lonake
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posted November 16, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 89,
Yes it does for me
Leo rising ---> mom has an aqua moon
Capricorn moon ---> dad has a cancer asc
Mercury in 7th ---> mom has Virgo rising
Pisces sun ---> again, mom has Virgo rising

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the89freespirit
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posted November 16, 2014 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
This idea is scrumptious.Really love it.

But don't you think that it could go to more than just sign placements and the relationships with parents?

Perhaps even the relationship that you have with the external environment and everything else that is NOT you?

As a Taurus Asc,I see the world as too extreme(Scorpio);either too sexual or too fanatical about puritanical beliefs.

As such,my prerogative is always to seek moderation in the way of bringing pleasure (in too conservative places) or slowness to anger (in places of unnecessary violence).

Now with Cancer Asc,the world out there(7th)would be perceived as hard and cold(Cap).They would seek to make it more caring and nourishing.(Cancer)

Conversely to the Cap Asc,the world out (7th)there is unstable and unpredictable (Cancer).They would seek to bring order,rules and structure to it.

To Gemini,the world out there is too wide and multi-faceted(Sag).They would seek to bring common ideas and neighborly relations to it.(Gem Dsc) etc.


Thanks! Yeah, I can definitely see that perspective working as well because it means that, like you said, you're bringing your Rising sign to the world to balance it out.

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posted October 21, 2016 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MermaidDreamz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 21, 2016 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then, they'll keep "meeting" their parents through their Descendant, constantly getting involved in relationships with people who embody more of the dysfunctional Cancer traits until they can work out those issues around the parents. Then, relationships run more smoothly and they can integrate their Descendant better into their own personalities (instead of constantly claiming they're not like their parents or will never be like them, because this is ironically often a way of cursing ourselves and repeating their patterns).

A meeting is a coming together. The conjunction aspect is the coming together aspect. The Descendant is the opposite of the Ascendant, this it is a opposition aspect. To me, it seem the two are mutually exclusive. It would appear to meet a someone you would need a coming together/ conjunction aspect.

Eg. Prince William has Gemini on the Desc, yet neither of his parents had Gemini in their natal chart. Harry has Cancer on his Desc, but only his mom had Cancer in her natal chart. Charles has Aquarius on his Desc, and I believe neither of his parents have Aquarius among their personal planets.

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scorpiogirl
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posted October 21, 2016 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It works for me. My asc is Aquarius and my mother has Moon, Venus and Uranus in Leo. I also attract Leos in my life, mainly as friends, even though I hate them.

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Kiimberly
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posted October 21, 2016 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiimberly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am libra rising, Capricorn sun. my dad is an Aries, my mom Aries rising.

My dad is all over my chart. My fourth house Capricorn stellium is likely the strongest section of my chart and it all relates very much to my relationship with my father. He has a Capricorn moon.

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