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Topic: Which sign is most capable of self sacrifice?
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whaaat
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posted November 17, 2014 03:24 AM
  
Or combination of signs. My bet is on Aqua/Scorpio for some reason. Pisces crossed my mind but I see the Pisces energy as being capable of self sacrifice from a place of weakness, not resolve. IP: Logged |
Kibriana
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posted November 17, 2014 04:48 AM
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Originally posted by whaaat:
Or combination of signs. My bet is on Aqua/Scorpio for some reason. Pisces crossed my mind but I see the Pisces energy as being capable of self sacrifice from a place of weakness, not resolve.
Scorpios can sacrifice for the ones they love. Aquas...they can be quite selfish and they rarely notice the needs of the people surrounding them, and they are normally more concerned with "global" issues. What about Virgos? They can make a lot of sacrifices for others while disregarding their own needs. Capricorns can also make a lot of sacrifices if that means they'll benefit from them in the future. IP: Logged |
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posted November 17, 2014 05:40 AM
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Aquas...they can be quite selfish and they rarely notice the needs of the people surrounding them, and they are normally more concerned with "global" issues. .
Lol yeah I can totally see how an intensely Aqua energy would produce a dreamer with a savior complex who spread themselves too thin. I don't have any planets in Aqua but I've got a lot of Saturn and Uranus aspects which give me a bit of that energy. I feel that it manifests mostly in open midedness and the desire to contribute to a group cause from time to time (not fanatically so, and not even as a full time thing). I believe that in measured doses it can give a wider conscience, one which isn't exclusively personal like Scorpio. Scorpio's whole thing is about finding truth in super personal situations. They'll burn the world for you and embrace your antisocial flaws because it: A) Reinforces their sense of security (if you hate everyone but them it can only be a plus lol) B) Their partner is their 'law and religion' everything else be damned. So on a personal sacrifice level Scorpio definitely takes the cake.  IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted November 17, 2014 10:31 AM
Virgo. I've seen it over and over again. 6th house people and 6th house synastry too. They are the sign of service and a lot of the time they get put into a position where they have to sacrifice a lot of something. Either in relationships or a job or family matters.I see capricorns sacrifice a lot too. Not in a physical or visible sense but they rrally sacrifice a lot of thier personal time and energy for family members when they don't really just don't want to. My cap friend foes everything to help her pisces sister to the point where its not even helping anymore, it's enabling. That's why I leave pisces out of this because it seems like they start off sacrifocng and helping but somehow end up being completely taken care of. Pisces is the sign of karma? I don't think Scorpios are sacrificing. They'll sacrifice someone else for you. But not themselves. They are THE sign of self preservation. I had a scorpio steal my stuff to give to his girlfriend. So. That's scorpio for you. I agree that they're likely to do a lot for you, more than most people will, bUT it won't be a personal sacrifice. They keep themselves very safe IP: Logged |
AmelieRose81
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posted November 17, 2014 12:51 PM
My own sign Taurus. ....never give up on anything and self destruct in the process.Put everyone else before my own needs. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted November 17, 2014 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I see capricorns sacrifice a lot too. Not in a physical or visible sense but they rrally sacrifice a lot of thier personal time and energy for family members when they don't really just don't want to.
Thanks for noticing. I thought people would laugh if I mentioned this. IP: Logged |
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posted November 17, 2014 10:58 PM
Virgo. I am a servant by nature. I am always looking after my kids, hubby, friends, animals, etc... and always before my own needs. Example - I always cook or prep food for everyone else (including the pets) before myself. I've been this way for as long as I can remember. I'm that person that gets called at 2am. I am the designated driver. I am the wiper of noses and the one that drives 30 miles to hold the hand of someone who just got dumped. I enjoy being needed. It's tiring, but I feel important. If I weren't needed, I would feel so lost. ------------------
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Faith
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posted November 18, 2014 09:28 AM
I can't let this thread die without paying homage to Pisces though.I disagree that they are weak. The ones I have known are amazingly strong. Problem is, they take on so much...and all they want is someone to understand how overwhelmed they are as a consequence of that...yet too often people don't understand and think, "Why do you complain so much?" Or "Why do you bring these troubles on yourself?" People *don't* get it. Pisces is the last sign...other signs haven't evolved to that mentality yet. From what I've seen they usually downplay their suffering...but people won't cut them even a little bit of slack...they call them martyrs...not understanding how BOUND Pisces is to service. It's not a matter of choice for them. My Pisces best friend babysat her sister's kids for years, for free, while her sister "paid her back" by being a b*tch and always complaining that nothing was done well enough. Her sister never paid her (she was supposed to.) But my best friend could NOT leave her sister unsupported. Everyone said, "Just walk away from it!" but she couldn't. She HAD to make sure her sister was okay, that is the way her love works, and by going against her sister she would have gone against herself. Meanwhile everyone yelled at my friend for being a doormat. Yeah it's a wonderful life for her...  But it means so much to me to know I have at least one friend who will never, ever, ever leave me. And she knows how grateful I am.  IP: Logged |
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posted November 18, 2014 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
I can't let this thread die without paying homage to Pisces though.I disagree that they are weak. The ones I have known are amazingly strong. Problem is, they take on so much...and all they want is someone to understand how overwhelmed they are as a consequence of that...yet too often people don't understand and think, "Why do you complain so much?" Or "Why do you bring these troubles on yourself?" People *don't* get it. Pisces is the last sign...other signs haven't evolved to that mentality yet. From what I've seen they usually downplay their suffering...but people won't cut them even a little bit of slack...they call them martyrs...not understanding how BOUND Pisces is to service. It's not a matter of choice for them. My Pisces best friend babysat her sister's kids for years, for free, while her sister "paid her back" by being a b*tch and always complaining that nothing was done well enough. Her sister never paid her (she was supposed to.) But my best friend could NOT leave her sister unsupported. Everyone said, "Just walk away from it!" but she couldn't. She HAD to make sure her sister was okay, that is the way her love works, and by going against her sister she would have gone against herself. Meanwhile everyone yelled at my friend for being a doormat. Yeah it's a wonderful life for her... But it means so much to me to know I have at least one friend who will never, ever, ever leave me. And she knows how grateful I am.
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Ami Anne
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posted November 18, 2014 09:44 AM
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theunknown
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posted November 18, 2014 09:57 AM
Virgo, the good cap
Sometimes cancerI was about to say Pisces but I can't because they alternate between being a victim and a savior IP: Logged |
ikja
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posted November 18, 2014 09:58 AM
My experience of Aquarian men makes me incline to say DEFINITELY NOT them lol. Sorry for the generalisation.------------------
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bansheequeen
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posted November 18, 2014 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks for noticing. I thought people would laugh if I mentioned this. ETA: The Secret Language of Birthdays even lists "Self-Sacrificing" as one of the most negative traits for my birthday (Jan 6) and my friend's birthday (Jan 12.)
I see it a lot. The friend I mentioned. She's always bringing people food, paying to go out and stuff. When people try to help her she refuses. I don't know if she really feels awkward accepting the same that she gives out or if she secretly wants it but doesn't know how to graciously accept? Any thoughts from another cap? IP: Logged |
fishbull11
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posted November 18, 2014 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Virgo, the good cap
Sometimes cancerI was about to say Pisces but I can't because they alternate between being a victim and a savior
I'm surprised nobody else mentioned Cancer, takes a rather evolved one though but can give and give again without expecting much in return. IP: Logged |
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posted November 18, 2014 12:39 PM
virgo. virgo - sitting opp. pisces - is just as capable of suffering and self-sacrifice. they will suffer quite a lot for people, but sometimes it goes unnoticed since they aren't as outwardly emotional as the pisces. pisces want attention for what they do for you, virgo doesn'tIP: Logged |
TuxLuigi
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posted November 18, 2014 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by fishbull11:
I'm surprised nobody else mentioned Cancer, takes a rather evolved one though but can give and give again without expecting much in return.
Wouldn't that rather be Pisces though? Self-sacrifice and negligence of the self (neither of which are good things). I would expect Cancer to be very giving too, but rather to people close to them particularly. IP: Logged |
hikoro
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posted November 18, 2014 01:42 PM
cancer!
or even pisces...def. not aqua or virgo...too self-centered and more concerned about what they think it's important IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 18, 2014 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by ikja:
My experience of Aquarian men makes me incline to say DEFINITELY NOT them lol. Sorry for the generalisation.
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posted November 19, 2014 11:46 AM
Me.Sun-Moon in Cancer 6th conjunct Dsc.
Venus in Virgo 7th
Mars in Scorpio 8th
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posted November 19, 2014 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by TuxLuigi:
Wouldn't that rather be Pisces though? Self-sacrifice and negligence of the self (neither of which are good things). I would expect Cancer to be very giving too, but rather to people close to them particularly.
they are confused about themselves ... you mean? the reason I said cancer because cancer chooses to give. Pisces are kinda the other Libras. They like to please because they can intuit and empathize with the other person and then forget what they are supposed to do other than adapting to other people's projection ... another thing about Aqua that I typically do not experience ( ) hence I didnt say Aqua, because Aqua do not sacrifice themselves .... is that a really evolved Aqua will make you feel the true free love ... Like you are loved because you are the most precious thing and they do not expect anything back. But free love isn't self-sacrifice and Aquas choose who to give, which differs from Scorpio who want you completely for themselves. I am going through a phrase where I'm telling my 7th pluto to stop desiring scorpionic love so bear with me .... IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2014 01:56 PM
Libra can be extremely giving and even self-sacrificing but due to the principle nature of the sign, Libra usually expects some sort of offering in return--not necessarily material, but some sort of token for what they have done. It's the 'this for that' mentality that can really hurt Libra's relationships. It's harmful because they can go for excessively long periods of time where they are self-sacrificing or doing a lot for a friend or SO and then they suddenly 'stack up' everything in their heads and weigh who has contributed what and feel cheated if the 'scales' seem unbalanced. Then, they can withhold or act out. This is just how the sign works. If Libra self-sacrifices at all, it will be because he/she believes it is valuable, that he/she will get something back either karmically or in the physical world--equal exchange. Cancer can be extremely giving, but like Scorpio, this is not a self-sacrificing sign. Cancer preserves his/her livelihood in a similar manner to Scorpio, but Cancer can just simply be defensive about things out of anxiety or fear. Cancer, I've seen, loves to give a LOT of material things, especially with sentimental value, or money to make their loved ones feel secure. But when it comes to themselves, they feel so insecure. They worry about their money and their livelihood from time to time. And as soon as this anxiety comes up, either for a logical or illogical reason, they may withdraw their emotional or material comforts. They make even become miserly and stingy. Virgo quietly self-sacrifices but Virgo may become silently resentful about being the 'good slave' in a relationship. I've seen it with people with prominent Virgo, including myself. But Virgo works tirelessly to try to help a friend or loved one and never asks for anything in return when helping, nor do they typically expect anything in return before they self-sacrifice. They are motivated by the desire to provide pure assistance [or servitude, according to older astrological interpretations] because it fulfills their identity. By giving something away, like their own time or their resources, Virgo may feel more complete. However this doesn't mean that Virgo won't experience inner contentions about having to self-sacrifice to feel fulfilled. IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2014 02:46 PM
All the astrology books I read, indicate Cancer, Pisces, and Virgo as the most self-sacrificing signs, you have to look at this in a symbolic way.Another sign I personally see as semi self-sacrificing is Sagittarius, in their own way they can be very caring people, going out of their way to help other people -- especially if there Jupiter is in good shape. IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2014 02:56 PM
Wow haha, I would do anything to help people, whether it hurts me or not. I really don't mind. I'm always giving and into self-sacrifice because I like seeing people happy.  Sun in Libra, Virgo ASC, Moon in Aquarius and a strong Pisces influence. (: I agree about Scorpio, too. They're extremely loyal. IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2014 02:59 PM
Venus conjunct saturn in the natal- they feel a sense of obligation and end up making numerous sacrifices, usually at the cost of their personal happiness.IP: Logged |
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posted November 19, 2014 10:58 PM
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But free love isn't self-sacrifice and Aquas choose who to give, which differs from Scorpio who want you completely for themselves.
Ooooooh @u@ So Aqua is less...Accepting of one's flaws? As in they'll choose only 'the worthy' in their eyes, and if they're evolved enough then the same will be applied to themselves. And I'm sure with how rational Aqua is capable of being, they won't try to monopolize you like Scorpio because to them you must first be a fully independent individual. I see now how this type of mentality wouldn't lead to compulsive self sacrifice...
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