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Topic: Can someone explain to me how moon in the 12th house functions?
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Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 250 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted November 25, 2014 07:08 PM
I have never really quite understood this placing.And how would a water moon handle this placing compared to someone with a fire,earth or air moon there, or will they all handle it in the same way?IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 25, 2014 07:11 PM
it means your mother was absent in some way in your life. being in a fire sign means you see her as a big personality.. in water signs her influence is less glorious to you..IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 436 From: On Regulus on my way to Spica Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 25, 2014 07:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: it means your mother was absent in some way in your life. being in a fire sign means you see her as a big personality.. in water signs her influence is less glorious to you..
does it always mean your mother was/is absent, or can it mean that your mother was over-protective(sacrificed too much-Pisces)
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 25, 2014 07:39 PM
she could have been there but she was emotionally absent in some way to you not giving you the attention you deserve.i don't think its a smothering aspect thats more moon in the first house. IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 25, 2014 07:48 PM
I met a guy with this placement. His mom had him at 16 and disappeared, his grandma raised him and his mom is present in his life but they have no real bond She has three other kids after him who she is there for Sad IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 436 From: On Regulus on my way to Spica Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 25, 2014 08:07 PM
oh thanks for answering my question. I asked because my mother has smothered me my entire life, and was over-loving, but my bio-dad was never around. Maybe,its the leo moon? IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 25, 2014 08:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReeseC: oh thanks for answering my question. I asked because my mother has smothered me my entire life, and was over-loving, but my bio-dad was never around. Maybe,its the leo moon?
is the moon the same sign as the ascendant? IP: Logged |
moonstruck87 Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: USA Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 25, 2014 08:37 PM
Reese, my son has moon in 1 conjunct Uranus and I know moon is usually interpreted as mom but I have felt intuitively that this aspect in his chart represents his dad...!His dad is an emotional roller coaster and he is in and out of my son's life already... I'm the one raising him & doing everything with practically no help So I do think moon can represent dad too or the emotional nature of one of the parents Idk, just my two cents :-) IP: Logged |
yellowelevator Knowflake Posts: 316 From: Michigan, Neptune, and sometimes Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 25, 2014 08:40 PM
I have this placement, in Gemini. My mother was never absent, cold, or emotionally distant to me growing up, and still isn't. I think this placement can go either way. You might have a mother who is unfortunately this way and you never really develop a bond with her, whether because she was emotionally cold or because she literally wasn't a part of your life. Or you can have a mother who is quite the opposite. As in perhaps too close at times, smothering, or nothing really negative per say, but you have a close connection with her. My case has always been the latter, fortunately enough. Although sometimes we have been too close and seem more like best friends than mother-daughter. A lot of people I could tell thought she was over-protective of me growing up, but I had health problems as a child and emotional difficulties as a teen. So a part of me really can't blame her. Plus I am the youngest of my siblings. But I wouldn't change the level of closeness for anything if I had a chance at a do-over. The only thing that did happen to me that I could possibly attribute to the other side of this placement (mom not being there) is when I was a year old and had cancer for a year, and so at that early age I was not able to be properly cared for or held by my mother since I was in the hospital, even though she was there almost every day. So I wonder if that's affected me at all. I don't know... IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 25, 2014 08:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by yellowelevator: I have this placement, in Gemini. My mother was never absent, cold, or emotionally distant to me growing up, and still isn't. I think this placement can go either way. You might have a mother who is unfortunately this way and you never really develop a bond with her, whether because she was emotionally cold or because she literally wasn't a part of your life. Or you can have a mother who is quite the opposite. As in perhaps too close at times, smothering, or nothing really negative per say, but you have a close connection with her. My case has always been the latter, fortunately enough. Although sometimes we have been too close and seem more like best friends than mother-daughter. A lot of people I could tell thought she was over-protective of me growing up, but I had health problems as a child and emotional difficulties as a teen. So a part of me really can't blame her. Plus I am the youngest of my siblings. But I wouldn't change the level of closeness for anything if I had a chance at a do-over. The only thing that did happen to me that I could possibly attribute to the other side of this placement (mom not being there) is when I was a year old and had cancer for a year, and so at that early age I was not able to be properly cared for or held by my mother since I was in the hospital, even though she was there almost every day. So I wonder if that's affected me at all. I don't know...
oh yes. a babies first year is extremely important when it comes to who is giving them love. IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 436 From: On Regulus on my way to Spica Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 25, 2014 08:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by yellowelevator: I have this placement, in Gemini. My mother was never absent, cold, or emotionally distant to me growing up, and still isn't. I think this placement can go either way. You might have a mother who is unfortunately this way and you never really develop a bond with her, whether because she was emotionally cold or because she literally wasn't a part of your life. Or you can have a mother who is quite the opposite. As in perhaps too close at times, smothering, or nothing really negative per say, but you have a close connection with her. My case has always been the latter, fortunately enough. Although sometimes we have been too close and seem more like best friends than mother-daughter. A lot of people I could tell thought she was over-protective of me growing up, but I had health problems as a child and emotional difficulties as a teen. So a part of me really can't blame her. Plus I am the youngest of my siblings. But I wouldn't change the level of closeness for anything if I had a chance at a do-over. The only thing that did happen to me that I could possibly attribute to the other side of this placement (mom not being there) is when I was a year old and had cancer for a year, and so at that early age I was not able to be properly cared for or held by my mother since I was in the hospital, even though she was there almost every day. So I wonder if that's affected me at all. I don't know...
I love that you say you two have a great relationship. I'm the same with my mother. @athenegoddess, I am a Leo Moon Virgo ASC IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted November 25, 2014 10:48 PM
Yellowelevator description resonates with me the most. This placement can make a warm and sensitive mother. I'm also the last born, with quite a big age gap between my siblings, so wondering about birth order effect..I also have Moon/Pluto aspect so don't know if the over-protection comes from that as well. But my mother is the best mom in the World, only problem is the over-protection, we're trying to work around it.My Moon is 1 degree away from my 12th house, so it's a cusp Moon. In other ways this means issues with emotions and expression all around, you really have to take the time to work on it because emotions are so tightly stuffed up with a 12th house Moon. I have a Air Moon but I have a mutual reception so my Moon works both like a Water and Air Moon combined. I feel a lot of things intuitively and pick up on the intangibles. The best side of this Moon is the solitude and peace it brings, the ability to feels things and understand things on a deep level. The worst part is self-expression, it's not the most easiest when it comes to public expression and feeling safe with public pursuits unless you have other chart factors like 1st/10th house placements. It does give a mysterious feel to your personality. I think this Moon is very secretive, I know I can be, and protective of privacy. I think this Moon never gives the whole picture, something is always held back, even if the person tells you everything, there is always a little piece or a feeling never told. I think this Moon can be emotionally strong, but also fragile. I think it's the type of Moon that can come out of difficulty still intact, even the most difficult situation is looked at as a humbling learning experience. I could be painting this placement in a more positive light because of my Jupiter/Moon aspect, but I see so much potential in this Moon placement, yes it can be melancholy but highly creative too. This Moon has extreme depth, nothing is ever surface material.
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yellowelevator Knowflake Posts: 316 From: Michigan, Neptune, and sometimes Pluto Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 25, 2014 11:31 PM
@ Comatoes I'm glad you can relate! It's always nice to know someone can, especially when they have the same placement. I definitely relate to all of what you said describing this placement emotionally. It for sure resonates with me, especially about not always telling everything there is to tell to someone, and always leaving a bit concealed.@ ReeseC Thank you! I am glad to hear you have that with yours as well.
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Gracha Knowflake Posts: 178 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 02:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReeseC: oh thanks for answering my question. I asked because my mother has smothered me my entire life, and was over-loving, but my bio-dad was never around. Maybe,its the leo moon?
I can agree with this I have gemini moon in 12th. My mom was/is very over protective, my father was unavailable via emotionally or physically most times. My moon squares sun and neptune as well. I can't stand folks say 12th house moon is absentee mother, in my case and a relatives it's not true, mothers tend to be over bearing. If anything I'm the one trying to get away from my mom lol IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 26, 2014 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gracha: I can agree with this I have gemini moon in 12th. My mom was/is very over protective, my father was unavailable via emotionally or physically most times. My moon squares sun and neptune as well. I can't stand folks say 12th house moon is absentee mother, in my case and a relatives it's not true, mothers tend to be over bearing. If anything I'm the one trying to get away from my mom lol
you can't stand them? thats nice.
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Gracha Knowflake Posts: 178 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by yellowelevator:The only thing that did happen to me that I could possibly attribute to the other side of this placement (mom not being there) is when I was a year old and had cancer for a year, and so at that early age I was not able to be properly cared for or held by my mother since I was in the hospital, even though she was there almost every day. So I wonder if that's affected me at all. I don't know...[/B]
I can relate to do this as well, at 6 mos I was taken away from my mom due to a family custody dispute. It was almost a year before we were reunited. I don't know if it's just my 12th house moon or background (misty likely) I feel like I can take care of myself especially emotionally I don't need a close bond with people to feel secure. Communicating with loved ones especially SO keeps me satisfied.
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Gracha Knowflake Posts: 178 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 02:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: you can't stand them? thats nice.
Typo!!!!!!! I can't stand when folks just say 12th house moon equals unavailable mother. That's not true. I have one of the most loving mothers even though we sometimes bump heads but that's life and I love her. We talk everyday usually multiple times a day. Peace IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 26, 2014 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gracha: Typo!!!!!!! I can't stand when folks just say 12th house moon equals unavailable mother. That's not true. I have one of the most loving mothers even though we sometimes bump heads but that's life and I love her. We talk everyday usually multiple times a day. Peace
but you just said your mother was absent in your most sensitive year. whether you admit it or not it had an impact on your psyche and thats why your moon is in the 12th house. peace to you too. IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 436 From: On Regulus on my way to Spica Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gracha: I can agree with this I have gemini moon in 12th. My mom was/is very over protective, my father was unavailable via emotionally or physically most times. My moon squares sun and neptune as well. I can't stand folks say 12th house moon is absentee mother, in my case and a relatives it's not true, mothers tend to be over bearing. If anything I'm the one trying to get away from my mom lol
OMG yes. My mother is the over-bearing mother that will lick her fingers and wipe your face in public.....while I'm having a conversation.....with someone else.
typical interaction with her: MOM:I saw that its 18 degrees where you are? you told me last week while you where at the mall remember? you were getting pajamas, I said make sure they were 100% cotton flannel or long johns so you wont get a cough.You said okay mommy. I left it alone, but you could've been saying that to get me off the phone. I never know with you, you never tell me anything. Sidenote: She calls me 5xs a day.lol ME:I got em mommy. they were on sale. MOM: Where they on sale? Did you use that in store coupon? What color are they? ME: I got em mommy. Its fine. MOM: Are you home? Send me a picture of the pajamas you got. ME: Hold on mommy, there is a note from UPS on the door. WT-I didn't order anything online. MOM: It's about time they got there. I ordered some really comfortable pajamas I saw online in the cutest color. You'll love them. I'll call you tomorrow to remind you to take the pajamas you got back ok. Love you. edit: While I'm not saying that athene is wrong, I'm just speaking for myself in saying that my mother has always been there in every way, but she is over-kill maternal love.
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Gracha Knowflake Posts: 178 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 03:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: but you just said your mother was absent in your most sensitive year. whether you admit it or not it had an impact on your psyche and thats why your moon is in the 12th house. peace to you too.
But that's not ALWAYS the case. That was the only experience my mom was away. For this to work IMO there would have to be a continuous absence I'm talking years. You just can't say to someone whom you've never met that their parent is absent is in some kind of way because of ONE aspect. It's irresponsible astrology you're practicing. My daughter has a 12th house moon, what are you going to tell me my career will keep me absent from her or am I emotionally cold??? Do you know of any 12th house mooners in your real life? How did their background fair? It's an honest question because I see tons of textbook answers, and not enough real life experience. IP: Logged |
Gracha Knowflake Posts: 178 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 03:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by ReeseC: OMG yes. My mother is the over-bearing mother that will lick her fingers and wipe your face in public.....while I'm having a conversation.....with someone else.typical interaction with her: MOM:I saw that its 18 degrees where you are? you told me last week while you where at the mall remember? you were getting pajamas, I said make sure they were 100% cotton flannel or long johns so you wont get a cough.You said okay mommy. I left it alone, but you could've been saying that to get me off the phone. I never know with you, you never tell me anything. Sidenote: She calls me 5xs a day.lol ME:I got em mommy. they were on sale. MOM: Where they on sale? Did you use that in store coupon? What color are they? ME: I got em mommy. Its fine. MOM: Are you home? Send me a picture of the pajamas you got. ME: Hold on mommy, there is a note from UPS on the door. WT-I didn't order anything online. MOM: It's about time they got there. I ordered some really comfortable pajamas I saw online in the cutest color. You'll love them. I'll call you tomorrow to remind you to take the pajamas you got back ok. Love you.
Hahahahaha sounds like my mom and me except I call her, ma. Oh my mom would be offering to send a box of pjs as well. My word wouldn't be enough lol. Do you see your mom as a "talker"? Like she could talk your ears off lol
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 3414 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 26, 2014 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gracha: But that's not ALWAYS the case. That was the only experience my mom was away. For this to work IMO there would have to be a continuous absence I'm talking years. You just can't say to someone whom you've never met that their parent is absent is in some kind of way because of ONE aspect. It's irresponsible astrology you're practicing. My daughter has a 12th house moon, what are you going to tell me my career will keep me absent from her or am I emotionally cold??? Do you know of any 12th house mooners in your real life? How did their background fair? It's an honest question because I see tons of textbook answers, and not enough real life experience.
your daughter has one too because she took your genes in terms of that aspect. point is it means absence in one way or another. varies by person but facts remain the same. i think you don't think it had an impact but it did.. and it is carried on to your daughter. IP: Logged |
Gracha Knowflake Posts: 178 From: NY USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 03:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: your daughter has one too because she took your genes in terms of that aspect. point is it means absence in one way or another. varies by person but facts remain the same. i think you don't think it had an impact but it did.. and it is carried on to your daughter.
Okay AG. Have a good day.
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krltn94 Newflake Posts: 13 From: Registered: Oct 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 03:22 PM
I also have a 12th house moon and have never experienced an absentee mother. Quite the opposite actually.IP: Logged |
ReeseC Knowflake Posts: 436 From: On Regulus on my way to Spica Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 26, 2014 03:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: your daughter has one too because she took your genes in terms of that aspect. point is it means absence in one way or another. varies by person but facts remain the same. i think you don't think it had an impact but it did.. and it is carried on to your daughter.
Do you think its could mean in a woman's chart that she herself would be an absent mother?
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