posted November 29, 2014 02:18 AM            

I often feel like I don't know or understand my own creative processes, or why I almost feel like I actually don't really have one. I sometimes feel like I have to force myself to be creative, rather than just naturally feel like I'm able to jump into anything and put all my focus, energy, and passion into it. I look around at people I know who are really good at this or that, such as cooking or painting, and wonder why I don't have any real specific hobbies that I completely throw myself into and stay so passionate about. It makes me feel a bit inadequate and almost...boring. And the few times here and there that I've shown someone something I've made/done/worked on, I never feel like they're that interested, and don't usually get a lot of credit or praise. It just makes it worse.

posted November 29, 2014 04:48 AM            

I think pisces energy can be guilty in the way where they get insecure about what to pursue, and they don't know where their motivation has gone. It could especially be Pisces MC (I have this) Sun-neptune (dellussional/unable to see their own talent) maybe even pisces sun..and 12th house placements, where the person can feel so far away from themselves that they can't really focus on anything

Then there is Gemini energy, cause gemini people can sometimes get so restless that they dont know where to focus, they got their head on a new project so often that they never finish stuff, and therefor they always got their talents/hobbies on a superficial level, just because they are not dedicated or patient enough to really dig into something (of course other placement/aspect in the chart can make these traits smaller)

Capricorn/Saturn energy I think can be guilty in the way that the person can get so stiff, rational and realistic that they can't really relax and just let go (and thus experience what their talents are) Same with virgo energy/6th house placements

Can't think of anything else right now... so let me know if you got any of these energies! But remember, that just because you might have a difficult chart, doesn't have to mean you dont have a talent. Pisces people are some of the most creative signs, but I often see them never really do something about it, which is a shame.

posted November 29, 2014 07:57 AM            

As for the other influences, yes, Gemini and Pisces can somewhat make your energy feel scattered and confused (this coming from a Gemini rising and Pisces MC). I am creative, yes, but that's only because I have Mars in the 5th house. There are other times though, when I feel really uninspired and out of ideas.

Capricorn and Saturn influence definitely, especially if Capricorn rules the 5th house or Saturn sits in the 5th house. This is the house of creativity after all.

Hard sun-saturn or venus-saturn aspects might cause this, too. The sun does rule self-expression, which is an important factor in creativity, and venus rules the arts and anything creative.

Chiron in the 5th house or in hard aspect to sun or venus can make you feel like your creative work is never good enough.

If the ruler of the 5th house is afflicted, then that could be a reason, too.

posted November 29, 2014 09:56 AM            

We're both Leo with Gemini moon. Weird, because I don't think that's it.
In my chart I've always thought the 12th. Hidden talents. They're hidden from us. Myself having Venus/mercury/mars there.
I'm pretty sure you've said that you have moon there.

posted November 30, 2014 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I feel like this too sometimes, but I feel it more in a way where I don't know which hobby to focus on...

I think pisces energy can be guilty in the way where they get insecure about what to pursue, and they don't know where their motivation has gone. It could especially be Pisces MC (I have this) Sun-neptune (dellussional/unable to see their own talent) maybe even pisces sun..and 12th house placements, where the person can feel so far away from themselves that they can't really focus on anything

Then there is Gemini energy, cause gemini people can sometimes get so restless that they dont know where to focus, they got their head on a new project so often that they never finish stuff, and therefor they always got their talents/hobbies on a superficial level, just because they are not dedicated or patient enough to really dig into something (of course other placement/aspect in the chart can make these traits smaller)

Capricorn/Saturn energy I think can be guilty in the way that the person can get so stiff, rational and realistic that they can't really relax and just let go (and thus experience what their talents are) Same with virgo energy/6th house placements

Can't think of anything else right now... so let me know if you got any of these energies! But remember, that just because you might have a difficult chart, doesn't have to mean you dont have a talent. Pisces people are some of the most creative signs, but I often see them never really do something about it, which is a shame.

Everyone have a talent, everyone is creative, and everyone has their own hurdles they have to get over

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I definitely agree about Piscean energy and Gemini energy playing a role here. I too have a Pisces MC! That might be it, possibly among other things. I also have Moon and Mars in Gemini. So...yup lol. They are both in the 12th house. I have two Virgo planets, and Capricorn on the DSC. And a few aspects to Saturn. So I have almost everything you mentioned.

posted November 30, 2014 09:18 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I feel the saaaaame way. It's crazy, like you could have just posted for me as well!

We're both Leo with Gemini moon. Weird, because I don't think that's it.
In my chart I've always thought the 12th. Hidden talents. They're hidden from us. Myself having Venus/mercury/mars there.
I'm pretty sure you've said that you have moon there.

I feel this creativeness in my head. Sooooo many things that I'd love to release but, I feel blocked. Just like a pool of water. Just nowhere to go.

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Wow, funny how that happens, eh? Well although the subject isn't so bright, I'm glad you can relate on a lighter note.

Yeah, I can't really imagine it's our Sun/Moon combo either. Unless they're afflicted or what have you or something. But yep, I'm thinking it could be 12H placements as well. I have Moon and Mars there. I think it's very possible for sure.

posted November 30, 2014 10:39 PM            

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I'm wondering what might cause someone to feel like they lack a natural creativity, or drive and passion for something.

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posted November 30, 2014 10:42 PM            

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Capricorn and Saturn influence definitely, especially if Capricorn rules the 5th house or Saturn sits in the 5th house. This is the house of creativity after all.

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posted November 30, 2014 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Wouldn't they be extra focused on this area.. and make a career out of it?
People seem to really put time and work into the area of life where their Saturn is present (sign&house).

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posted December 01, 2014 04:45 AM            

What do you take joy and satisfaction in as that might be a way you are channelling that even if it's not obviously creative?

I looked at someone's chart who I imagine feeling like this and is very mathematically orientated. He has Chiron in taurus opp ascendant, nn in leo so maybe just still in sn territory. Only sun aspects trine saturn and square mc. Saturn is heavily aspected but mainly good aspects. Most of planets are in the top of the chart. Venus-saturn-neptune t-square.

posted December 01, 2014 01:22 PM            

For creativity I think neptune, venus, uranus and mercury helps. Saturn probably detracts from it. Or gives a restriction to your ideas.

posted December 01, 2014 05:51 PM            

What I meant about passion relating to creativity is that if you really love what you do, whatever hobby/career/activity it is, you're bound to be pretty passionate about it or else you wouldn't be so into it. In my opinion I think passion fuels more creativity, or vice versa. But I do agree with your definitions of them.

posted December 02, 2014 02:33 AM            

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I agree with next to neptune on everything except for Virgo energy. I have a strong Virgo influence in my chart, but I still find myself very creative. Although after I create something, I always nitpick on the little details until they look "perfect" to me. In that sense, Virgo is creative because it wants to make something perfect. In almost every case, the Virgos I know are into crafts and stuff like that and they're almost always really good at what they do.

As for the other influences, yes, Gemini and Pisces can somewhat make your energy feel scattered and confused (this coming from a Gemini rising and Pisces MC). I am creative, yes, but that's only because I have Mars in the 5th house. There are other times though, when I feel really uninspired and out of ideas.

Capricorn and Saturn influence definitely, especially if Capricorn rules the 5th house or Saturn sits in the 5th house. This is the house of creativity after all.

Hard sun-saturn or venus-saturn aspects might cause this, too. The sun does rule self-expression, which is an important factor in creativity, and venus rules the arts and anything creative.

Chiron in the 5th house or in hard aspect to sun or venus can make you feel like your creative work is never good enough.

If the ruler of the 5th house is afflicted, then that could be a reason, too.

Then again, this also depends on the whole chart. Some people might have the placements I listed and are still creative.

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posted March 07, 2015 01:55 AM            

Someone mentioned lack of fire here. But I don't think that's the whole picture because though fire usually means passion,there are many creative people I know who have an abundance of earth,air and water in their charts.

If you are confused about what you are good at/ if you question that you have any creativity,I would look at Neptune aspecting the natal planets or Saturn doing the same.

posted March 07, 2015 02:03 AM            

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I get what you mean.

Someone mentioned lack of fire here. But I don't think that's the whole picture because though fire usually means passion,there are many creative people I know who have an abundance of earth,air and water in their charts.

If you are confused about what you are good at/ if you question that you have any creativity,I would look at Neptune aspecting the natal planets or Saturn doing the same.

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posted March 07, 2015 04:26 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

I have sun conjunct saturn in the 12th and I can relate to this. It seems like all of my friends are incredibly gifted/talented and passionate about something and i'm just kind of there. lol I suck at drawing/painting, i'm a mediocre writer, and i'm not really musically inclined. I feel like i've got creative energy inside that is begging to be let out but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

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Saturn does tend to stifle things quite a bit.But even with that being said, I still think that there is a budding talent that EVERYONE has.No matter how small.

Some are good at discovering what that talent is early in life and immerse themselves it it. Whilst others tend to catch the wave a little later.

You may be part of the latter because Saturn tends to put responsibility before fun ALL the time.

So the individual grows up not really knowing what they enjoy doing/not being able to differentiate between obligation and "wanting" to do something.Both merging confusingly sometimes.

But the good news is that Saturn does let up as one grows older and the joy and bountifulness of the Sun eventually shows up.

I don't know how many cheeky Sun in Cap grandpa's I have met that are so far removed from their more conservative youth selves, that they think their young self a completely different individual.

For now, rejoice in all that you can do competently because that is your talent for now. It will become clearer as you age as to what you really are passionate about.

Those with Neptune aspecting their Sun however are a differing kettle of fish. they instinctively "know" they are creative, but rarely find a place to express it without limit.

The frustration here can last a lifetime really