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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
yeah, but cap also suggests an earthy, details-loving approach, not only delay

Do you have also aspects that indicate fantasy? You need to have fantasy to become a novelist; a strong mercury only would indicate an author/writer but not a novelist



Yes,i am aware of that.Mercury in Cap is about the details. But I have written quite a lot of fantasy manuscripts. Quite a lot.But there is more....

That is why I mentioned the Solar chart ruler of 5th being the Sun. My Sun conjuncts Jupiter conjuncts Neptune exact. And that is the other side of the coin.

Now there is a need in my writing to reel in any stories that become too "far fetched" and nonsensical. LOL

My Mercury(ruler of the 5th) is also stationed in the 9th house.A strong desire to write about far away places and distant lands/people and culture etc.

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Enneline
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posted December 17, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds great, aries

Sun-neptune is really sufficient to write fantasy novels

What about aspects to the mc and to 2nd house in order to make money with your writing?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by florence:
Your posts are pretty good and capture a lot so maybe those readers are just not .. the readers for you. People's criticisms come out of all kinds of places, not always to do with the work itself.

Thank you Florence

I am aware that external criticism doesn't always come from a loving place. Some of it comes from the person just not "getting" your vision. I get that.

Its just that it is easy to spoil 10000 beautiful feathers with a glass of deep red paint.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Saturn is the ruler of my 5th (Capricorn)

Is he saying that this could be a money making career?


Saturn being the ruler of your 5th normally means that your talent becomes your profession/ else you have always thought/are thinking of making it so.

What aspects does Saturn enjoy with faster moving planets?

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Enneline
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posted December 17, 2014 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My Mercury(ruler of the 5th) is also stationed in the 9th house.A strong desire to write about far away places and distant lands/pepople and culture etc.

-> but also great chances to get published!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Sounds great, aries

Sun-neptune is really sufficient to write fantasy novels

What about aspects to the mc and to 2nd house in order to make money with your writing?


2nd house ruler is also Mercury(same as 5th). trPluto is working there, giving me great insight and confidence. Its coming together.

The ruler of the MC is Uranus and the co-ruler is Saturn. That is why I said that when Saturn reaches Capricorn, it will be time to "show and tell". Possibly to the public.

But Uranus transits to Mercury I haven't quite figured out yet. What I do notice is that I tend to throw out anything that isn't "shocking" enough in my writing.

Oh well!Guess I answered my own question.

It may also suggest that I come before the public much sooner than I planned? Uranus rules suprises after all.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:

My Mercury(ruler of the 5th) is also stationed in the 9th house.A strong desire to write about far away places and distant lands/people and culture etc.

-> but also great chances to get published!



Oh yes. And that too. Fingers crossed.

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fairaqua
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posted December 17, 2014 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Saturn being the ruler of your 5th normally means that your talent becomes your profession/ else you have always thought/are thinking of making it so.

What aspects does Saturn enjoy with faster moving planets?


My Venus in the 6th house of Aquarius, the 10th house, and Ketu (south node)

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Enneline
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posted December 17, 2014 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wonder if i get published? the 9th house is ruled by pisces/neptune and aries/mars. Neptune in 5h trines mc and saturn in 2nd. Mars in 11h in gem and sextiles mc.

Saturn in 2nd biquintiles mc.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
My Venus in the 6th house of Aquarius, the 10th house, and Ketu (south node)

Is Venus/Saturn the ruler of your 5th?

What I meant by that question was; are there natal aspects of Moon,Sun,Mercury, Venus,Mars, Jupiter to Saturn? That is if Saturn is the ruler of the 5th?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
i wonder if i get published? the 9th house is ruled by pisces/neptune and aries/mars. Neptune in 5h trines mc and saturn in 2nd. Mars in 11h in gem and sextiles mc.

Saturn in 2nd biquintiles mc.


I have never quite understood houses that have two rulers therein.But I gues the trick would be to watch transits with both?

Getting published would involve so many aspects. So I wouldn't write myself off so quickly.

Aspects to transiting Pluto(power of influence),Jupiter(many people).

It could also involve progressed Moon(publicity),progressed Sun/Venus to ruler of 5th-increase in popularity of the way you express yourself.

The list is really not exhaustive.

Even Saturn can be involved. But this transit doesn't bring sudden change but a gradual slow shift.

So you may not be rich in your lifetime. Maybe will have enough to get by. But your writings may stand the test of time and be continously published long after you have died. Even be used as "authority".

But if the natal Sun is in the 8th /progresed Sun is in the 8th house at the time of your death,you may enjoy your fame post-humously

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 17, 2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Enneline
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posted December 17, 2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/NovelistArticle.html

i think she is right

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posted December 17, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterPan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm quite inventive in most things i do, so i guess you could call it creative problem solving.

If i have a problem that can be solved by technology, ill make a software for it(i'm decent in programming, by no means an expert tough, quite new to it.) and i also like to work out, and for that ive made allot of exercices to target muscles that are not normally trained. Like the neck and jaw muscles.

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 17, 2014 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I could be very good at many creative activities if I put the effort. I definitely don't lack imagination and I have a good ear for music. I intend to use my potential once I'm in a better place in life. I'm bracing myself.

Too lazy to list my pile of indicators

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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fairaqua
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posted December 17, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is Venus/Saturn the ruler of your 5th?

What I meant by that question was; are there natal aspects of Moon,Sun,Mercury, Venus,Mars, Jupiter to Saturn? That is if Saturn is the ruler of the 5th?


Wait, im trying to understand.

Saturn is lord of my 5th and 6th house.
He is aspecting Venus, who is sitting in 6th house (Aquarius)
He is aspecting my 10th house (Gemini, who's lord is sitting in my 5th house)
And lastly he is aspecting Ketu, who's sitting in my first house (Which is Virgo, lord mercury, in 5th house)


Nothing is aspecting my Saturn

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LexaS
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posted December 17, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexaS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been told by many people I'm creative and that I have a vivid imagination... I've been interested in visual arts from as long as I remember. I'm good at writing, too but visual arts (such as drawing, painting, photography and crafts) have a special place in my heart (maybe it's my Sun in Taurus speaking).

I have a Sag Moon in 5h and Pluto in Scorpio in 5h (Ruler of 5h is Scorpio)
Mercury conjunct Midheaven in Aries
Sun in Taurus, Aries Venus and Aries Mercury all in 10th house
Mars in Pisces in 9h (sextile Neptune and trine Pluto)
Also trines between Moon-Venus/Mercury (I don't know if this counts at all)

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 18, 2014 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Wait, im trying to understand.

Saturn is lord of my 5th and 6th house.
He is aspecting Venus, who is sitting in 6th house (Aquarius)
He is aspecting my 10th house (Gemini, who's lord is sitting in my 5th house)
And lastly he is aspecting Ketu, who's sitting in my first house (Which is Virgo, lord mercury, in 5th house)


Nothing is aspecting my Saturn


When I interpret planets,the faster moving planet aspects the slower one in a natal chart.

So Venus aspects Saturn natally. I don't se it as Saturn transiting Venus.Unless by post-birth transits. When the person's natal positions are "fixed".

Even with progressions. It's trSaturn aspecting pprogressed Venus. And not the other way around. But many don't really see the difference.

Anyways...Saturn ruling the 5th house cusp of Cap,as I said, shows that one usually wants to develop their hobby/talent to make money for them or build a career on it.

Saturn tends to "formalize" the issues of the house it is in. Or make the person take the issues of that house very seriously

But there is more.The house where Saturn is placed as where 5th house ruler must pay "rent".

So say the ruler of the 5th is in the 11th house. Saturn belongs in the 5th(its home for the Capricorn cusp) but is paying rent in the 11th house.So it serves the agenda of the 11th house.

So this may suggest someone who expresses themselves(5th)best with friends(11th) or in social groups and clubs.

With Saturn in 11th, the person may play a significant role in the group;being the treasurer or having a formal role which they take seriously(Saturn).

This is where they are likely to express their creativity(5th).Perhaps find innovative ways(5th)in which the group can interact(11th house)?

Whatever they do, they take their group involvement (11th)seriously(Saturn) and input a lot of creative ideas(5th house ruler in 11th)therein.

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fairaqua
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posted December 18, 2014 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
When I interpret planets, the faster moving planet aspects the slower one in a natal chart- adding its influence on it.

So Venus aspects Saturn natally. It can never be the other way around.Unless by transit of Saturn to natal Venus or progressed Venus.

Saturn ruling the 5th house cusp of Cap,as I said, shows that one usually wants to develope their hobby/talent to make money for them or build a career on it. Saturn tends to "formalize" the issues of the house it is in. Or make the person take the issues of that house very seriously

But there is more.The house where Saturn is placed as where 5th house ruler must pay "rent".

So say the ruler of the 5th is in the 11th house. Saturn belongs in the 5th(its home for the Capricorn cusp) but is paying rent in the 11th house. So it serves the agenda of the 11th house.

So this may suggest someone who exprsses themselves (5th) best with friends(11th) or in social groups and clubs.

With Saturn in 11th, the person may play a significant role in the group;being the treasurer or having a formal role which they take seriously(Saturn).

This is where they are likely to express their creativity(5th).Perhaps find innovative ways(5th)in which the group can interact(11th house)?

Whatever they do, they take their group involvement (11th)seriously(Saturn) and input a lot of creative ideas(5th house ruler in 11th)therein.


Interesting.
Thank you!

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hodad
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posted January 03, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hodad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of Leo,strong 5th house---

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