posted December 16, 2014 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by selenafae96:
Many times in my life people have told me to stop being passive aggressive, you're so passive, etc. I know subconsciously that it's wrong to be passive, but sometimes I don't realize it. I just try to not show my anger so people won't think I'm freaking out. I was wondering if there's any placement/house/sign/aspect that's more passive aggressive than others. It'd be awesome if you could give your ideas. Thanks!

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posted December 16, 2014 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Libra and cancer mars?

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I disagree. cancer mars are moody and can take offense easily, and have stormy reactions, but this is not PASSIVE.. it is very ACTIVE and EMOTIONAL

posted December 16, 2014 04:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
Libra and cancer mars?

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I have mars in cancer conjunct sun and venus in cancer.

if ever someone me call me is AGRESSIVE. nobody will call me ever passive as I express my anger and all people notice.. there is nothing passive about it.. believe me

posted December 16, 2014 05:02 PM            

I think Neptune in relation to mars would be related as there's a subtle, evasive quality so the person can't directly be called out or defended against. Unless in the same manner and I react to that kind of oppression - but often it occurs in that manner because the person making the attack feels oppressed or limited themselves.

I've noticed it in Aries (but with other aspects mentioned) and I think it's that frustration although my mars squares don't manifest it that way because I can't contain the energy long enough to do anything strategic with once triggered. I've also encountered it in some libra but I do think there's not as strong an energy at root there and probably more closely aligned with keeping appearances than launching attacks. Maybe Gemini .. Not so much prone to it as effective when they do it because of mirrors, putting forth two images at once. And moon Pluto I think because of feeling attacked in subtle ways themselves.

posted December 17, 2014 12:04 AM            

People view passive-aggressive in different terminology, but I view it less about how you express your anger openly, and more about what you do subconsciously or vindictively with anger.

There is nothing wrong with being passive in certain situations and vice versa. Being passive means you have more reasons to think about your actions than automatically going for overkill.

Society tends to view anything remotely yin as negative -- femininity, gentleness, passive, introversion, introspection, mindfulness all these traits falls under being a doormat or being a loser. So people tend to want to beat these traits out of their personality.

On that note, everyone is passive-aggressive: every time you talk behind somebody's back, every time you gossip about someone, every time you think bad things about people without telling them to their face that is passive-aggressive behavior. Humans are a passive-aggressive species, that is why we act the way we do in relationships and communication. Just watch people communicate, most people don't communicate authentically, it is very, very rare when you do see it.

Do some people do it more than others, possibly. But passive-aggressive is more about emotions and confidence, about pride and responsiveness to thoughts, opinions and criticism. All this is related to not just Mars, but the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter -- the whole chart really. People who gossip a lot tend to be passive-aggressive, people who are catty and that includes men too tend to be passive-aggressive, these are what I've noticed. People who always need to make a point and argumentative tend to also be like this -- people who like to stir up drama.

posted December 17, 2014 03:57 PM              

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Originally posted by Vajra:
...I have to agree of course, have seen such things happen, although in most cases, such tasteless jokes do not make the whole room burst out in tears of spontaneous laughter, it's more like some people will roar and others will act uncomfortable, so the atmosphere created by this is quite different from non-malicious humor which is contagious and makes everyone feel better about themselves, and about life in general.

And this makes me think of another incident - what would you make of this? Once I worked in a setting that was nearly exclusively male, the old-fashioned kind. My colleagues with time got so comfortable with me that they sometimes forgot I was there, and once, someone started telling dirty jokes (which I didn't mind). Suddenly, the oldest man present remembered I was there and cut one of the younger guys short, by admonishing him: "Not in front of the lady!" Into the embarrassed silence I said, "I'm not really a lady, you know." "Yes you are", he said, and that was it. No more dirty jokes were being told in my presence. I am not entirely sure how to view this - was this alpha male excluding me from their male bonding ritual, thus artificially creating a gender separation and inhibiting me from being fully accepted, or was this acting with consideration for my vulnerable state as the outside female? I have absolutely no idea...

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All right, that is an interesting example, Vajra...I think it all depends on the personality of this gentleman, I see several possible scenarios here: he genuinely didn't like course jokes, didn't like to hear those ( I rarely like those myself, did he have something in Libra? lol); he liked you and tried to impress you, to distinguish himself from the others or to protect you; he was jealous of their success especially in your eyes, felt competitive; he had a dominant personality, so it was a form of subtle dominance, reclaiming attention etc.

I think the positive connotations and effects of humor certainly prevail: a powerful, irreplecable tool for bonding, creator of group cohesion and affiliation, entertainment of course, fighting everything that is wrong, ugly, scary in this world by the power of laughter, so very many they are...

posted December 17, 2014 10:02 PM            

True.

posted December 17, 2014 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
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True.

Yet others would say you were being rude, likely the ones you were yelling at. Likewise, you could've slung every obscenity in the book and attacked their character without addressing the issue and some would see you as just being direct. We live in our own subjective universes that are rarely fair and objective--even when we sincerely try to be--and so it makes it difficult to know the truth of the matter no matter what someone says.

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I know. I've misunderstood before.

The person who said I was being fair, was the person I was arguing with, though. They were actually impressed.

I'm always surprised to hear what I'm supposed to have said or done. Sometimes I'm insulted, other times I'm amused, but also sad that wires can be so easily crossed, and that people would jump to assumptions so quickly (and wonder why they do). I know that my insecurities can have me take something the wrong way, so I try to be understanding about those of others.

posted December 18, 2014 09:30 PM            

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Libra and cancer mars?

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Agreed.

I think passive-aggression is a tactic used by a cardinal sign/placement out of its element. Cardinal signs have an assertive urge. When not working properly the delivery may be blocked, however they'll still try to lead albeit in a less direct manner. Say, passively.

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For me, I'm not going to stand around and argue all day, I will walk away. Is that passive-aggressive, I don't really care.

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posted December 19, 2014 03:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:

[QUOTE]For me, I'm not going to stand around and argue all day, I will walk away. Is that passive-aggressive, I don't really care.

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Harsh!! If you hurl an insult then end the conversation or walk away, or abruptly leave- that's rude. However, if you excuse yourself when things get rowdy there's nothing passive-aggressive about that.[/QUOTE]

posted September 04, 2019 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
I have mars in cancer conjunct sun and venus in cancer.

if ever someone me call me is AGRESSIVE. nobody will call me ever passive as I express my anger and all people notice.. there is nothing passive about it.. believe me

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What’s your Moon Sign? How is your Mars aspected? Do you have Venus conjunct Mars?!

posted September 11, 2019 03:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Harsh!! If you hurl an insult then end the conversation or walk away, or abruptly leave- that's rude. However, if you excuse yourself when things get rowdy there's nothing passive-aggressive about that.

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