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Odette
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posted December 27, 2014 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on my experience with similar charts - if he truly likes you and wants to be with you, you'll know it. The fact that he is chasing and always trying to capture your attention is a very good sign that he is genuinely interested. With this guy - it's either black or white in love. Either he is seriously into someone - or he's not into them at all. There isn't much middle ground. He is the kind of person who would never spend time and energy with someone, unless he thought it was meaningful. If it felt shallow, he wouldn't bother.

What you said about him not replying sometimes - is probably because he is actually busy or unable to reply. He can also be emotional and moody, so he might be having a bad day.
It's highly unlikely that he is trying to play a game or play it cool or whatever else. He seems very honest and very serious.
Scorpio Mars conj Pluto in the 12th is a strong and very humble placement. He is a strong person, but not an egomaniac - so I don't think he would try to protect his ego by playing games. It is usually men with weak Mars placements and those who are not very spiritual, who would behave this way.

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posted December 27, 2014 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini Mooners do have a reputation for being fickle and having a playful side to their personality... but in his case - it's outweighed by too many serious, heavy and spiritual aspects: Mars in water, Mars/Pluto in 12th, Moon/Chiron conjunct and opposite Saturn, Asc and SN in Scorpio, Sun/Neptune in Capricorn... He is also extremely intelligent with his Mercury/Uranus conjunction. Having a deep mental connection with someone is very important to him.
I've known similar guys with the Gemini Moon and Scorpio/Pisces or Capricorn influences - and they are not your typical Gemini Moon. They are very serious about love and relationships.

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posted December 28, 2014 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Moon in Gemini with Cap Sun can produce a bit of an oddball. And this guy is one and then some...

Moon in Gemini likes to talk. But with the opposition of Saturn to his Moon, there could be hindrance in expressing oneself.

Add to that the conjunction of Chiron in Gemini.And you have someone who may not believe that they have anything intelligent to say. Or has a massive stammering/ stuttering problem.

Whatever it could be, Chiron and Saturn conjunct in Gemini suggest some inhibition with speaking or expressing oneself.

The Sun(direction) is usually resolute and ambitious in Capricorn. But with the added conjunction of Neptune,the question grows to be more "Is the goal spiritually rewarding?" a lot of times. The position does not suggest a concern for accolades and awards.

Neptune adds haziness to the personality. Making it very difficult to ground the person or box them.They can be the child who never really ever grew up.

The added conjunction to Venus suggests that he likes reciprocation,responds to encouragement and praise. He may desire marriage,co-habitation or "sharing" in one form or another. He likes to "beautify" his life a lot.

Read Pisces Venus to get an understanding of what I mean by this.

Now the interesting bit is the Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio.Which kind of "jumps out" and concerns me.

Pluto rules the 1st house and its placement in conjunct to Mars in 12th scares me a little. This is much like a dormant volcano.

When one has the ruler of the 1st house in the 12th,there is a tendency for them to feel like things are happening "to them" . Instead of being in control of their life.

Mars and Pluto are both potent in Scorpio and in the 1st 10 degrees!!! No,that is too much energy for the 12th to go unnoticed.

There could be some frustration in the expression of the energies combined. Some inability to do it openly.

There are number of ways it can manifest;

People with 12th house Mars/Pluto conjunct tend to be propositioned in a wholly inappropriate manner.Most times sexually. Or they themselves could be the ones who do this to others.

Others tend to be caught up in violent or aggressive situations.Especially those of a sexual nature or involve some abuse of power.

Some find it hard to express this energy openly and can entertain doing things "in the dark" i.e addictions(mostly to porn),stalking people etc.

I have asteroid Juno that joins Mars and Pluto(by opposition aspect).

Asteroid Eros opposing Juno and joining Mars and Pluto(conjunction).

I am familiar with this strong obsessive energy too.Especially when it comes to sex(Pluto is in Scorpio).

I wonder what he is doing to "manage" it? If he does at all-that is.


Aries your opinion seems pretty interesting. Ok his Gemini Moon in the 7th house shows a great need to communicate with his partner. Saturn comes along from the other side and blocks his feelings. "Punishes" him for the emotions. Sun-Neptune conjunction makes him dreamy, lost in his world.It's like if he's a Pisces ASC. Concerning the Mars-Pluto in the 12th house, I agree that it's an amazing power he holds. I know he has lots of energy and power deep inside and many times I'm scared of the tons of intimacy he wants to share. I'm pretty sure he has been involved to many fights or crazy things in the past, he's absolutely a daredevil. I noticed he doesn't have a sense of fear, he gets involved without caring. The transits and progressed planets may have an impact on him lately, 'cause he told me he's trying to control right all this energy. This is the weirdest and most intense horoscope I've ever seen in a man...

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posted December 28, 2014 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Based on my experience with similar charts - if he truly likes you and wants to be with you, you'll know it. The fact that he is chasing and always trying to capture your attention is a very good sign that he is genuinely interested. With this guy - it's either black or white in love. Either he is seriously into someone - or he's not into them at all. There isn't much middle ground. He is the kind of person who would never spend time and energy with someone, unless he thought it was meaningful. If it felt shallow, he wouldn't bother.

What you said about him not replying sometimes - is probably because he is actually busy or unable to reply. He can also be emotional and moody, so he might be having a bad day.
It's highly unlikely that he is trying to play a game or play it cool or whatever else. He seems very honest and very serious.
Scorpio Mars conj Pluto in the 12th is a strong and very humble placement. He is a strong person, but not an egomaniac - so I don't think he would try to protect his ego by playing games. It is usually men with weak Mars placements and those who are not very spiritual, who would behave this way.


He's not egomaniac, I know. I didn't put it this way. He cares a lot whenever we meet.I just think he protects himself just to be sure he doesn't get hurt.

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posted December 28, 2014 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Gemini Mooners do have a reputation for being fickle and having a playful side to their personality... but in his case - it's outweighed by too many serious, heavy and spiritual aspects: Mars in water, Mars/Pluto in 12th, Moon/Chiron conjunct and opposite Saturn, Asc and SN in Scorpio, Sun/Neptune in Capricorn... He is also extremely intelligent with his Mercury/Uranus conjunction. Having a deep mental connection with someone is very important to him.
I've known similar guys with the Gemini Moon and Scorpio/Pisces or Capricorn influences - and they are not your typical Gemini Moon. They are very serious about love and relationships.

That's what I hope exactly. As a Capricorn my self and also with a water ASC I'm always serious about love, so probably he's too. The Gemini Moon made me a bit anxious but I think you 're right, everything in Scorpio, Capricorn and 12th house is really serious. He's intelligent too as far as I've seen, but in a very unique way which I love. The mental connection is also very important to me, since my 7th house is in Virgo and my Mercury is placed in my 12th house. I need to communicate on a higher level with my partner. I think we 're gonna get along fine on this one. Another thing I noticed is that my Chiron conjuncts his Descendant. I might be a healer for his past relationships... who knows...

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posted December 30, 2014 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanna thank everybody for taking time to reply and wish you a Happy New Year. Take care and always have fun <3

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posted December 31, 2014 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With regards to the moon maybe I can relate a little bit. I have a gemini moon, with pluto(libra) conj saturn(scorpio) on my ascendant(libra). I also have sun in libra in the 12th house. I for sure am not fickle when it comes to matters of the heart.

It does take me a while to open up, I don't like to be controlled in my relationships, and I do like alot of time for myself, but my feelings run very deeply when in love My venus and mars are also in the fixed sign of leo, so I guess that also contributes.

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posted December 31, 2014 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
With regards to the moon maybe I can relate a little bit. I have a gemini moon, with pluto(libra) conj saturn(scorpio) on my ascendant(libra). I also have sun in libra in the 12th house. I for sure am not fickle when it comes to matters of the heart.

It does take me a while to open up, I don't like to be controlled in my relationships, and I do like alot of time for myself, but my feelings run very deeply when in love My venus and mars are also in the fixed sign of leo, so I guess that also contributes.


I guess people with strong planets in the 12th are very emotional and spiritual. I realized that his other placements are really strong on Scorpio and Capricorn so he's serious about everything he chooses.Plus, his Moon is in the 7th house so partnership and communication are important to him. Eventually you were all right So VacantGazer, is your Moon in the 9th house?

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posted January 24, 2015 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm coming back with something else I noticed... The day we met transit Mars conjuncted my natal Venus in Aquarius. What does this mean?

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