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unforgiven_soul
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posted December 26, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We met about 3 weeks ago, he run after me a lot and he's so weird. He's silent for few days and appears suddenly, he tries to show he's cool and later on he does things for me like surprises. It's really difficult for me to understand his psychosynthesis, cause he's so secretive. Now that I'm starting to fall in love with him he plays tricks on me. Any thoughts from his natal chart? It would be very helpful...


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posted December 26, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this is my chart...

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posted December 26, 2014 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should post charts from astro.com they are easier to read.

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posted December 26, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you should also post a synastry chart

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posted December 26, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I will

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Sun-Neptune conjunction exact is enough to answer your question. Being ethereal, elusive and evasive (and perhaps wishy-washy) is enough to explain what's going on here. Mars in Scorpio (secretive) in the 12th (even more secretive) also describes why you might find his motives and actions hard to understand/pin-down. It also contributes to a suddenness as it comes out of him from a blind spot.

Gemini Moon is very playful and can be fickle when the going gets deep. There is certainly an air of unpredictability that surrounds them. He seems like a very interesting, alluring person. Very charming in a strange way. Mercury conjunct Uranus would probably give him an absurd and insanely hilarious sense of humor, even a flair of geniusness.

He also has a Venus-Sun conjunct (though out of sign) that still would give him an even more interesting charm, since it is one that fuses two different sign energies.

ASC square Jupiter is also interesting. Someone who has a big heart and a very jovial attitude but excessively so, such that he can be taken for granted or manipulated? Or even at the cost of taking things seriously. It can make one extremely and detrimentally indulgent.

These are a few things I've gathered for you. Hope they help!

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posted December 26, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MARS PLUTO CONJUNCT IN SCORPIO!!! HOW DID I MISS THAT?

Wooh. Sounds very very very very very sexual and extremely magnetic, maybe even dark. In the 12th? Wow. There is so much to him that you have yet to discover it seems. Very very kinky and you'd probably never guess.

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posted December 26, 2014 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MARS PLUTO CONJUNCT IN SCORPIO!!! HOW DID I MISS THAT?

Wooh. Sounds very very very very very sexual and extremely magnetic, maybe even dark. In the 12th? Wow. There is so much to him that you have yet to discover it seems. Very very kinky and you'd probably never guess.


OMG PisceanDream you are amazing. You gave the best description ever, I couldn't even express everything you said... He's extraterrestrial to me and I love that. There are so many things to explore on him and the attraction is crazy... My Moon conjuncts his Mars-Pluto conjunction in his 12th house, I'm loosing my mind. My Aquarius Venus squares his Scorpio Mars and his Sagitarrius Venus conjuncts my Neptune (note I'm a Pisces AC), Moon-Mars double whammy,Venus-Pluto double-whammy. I'm pretty sure I would never guess his deep sexuality, it's so deep I might drawn... Thank you so so much for reading this, means a lot to me :*

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Oh! They were amateur at best! Thank you!

Yes, I noticed your Moon mixed in with the Mars-Pluto conjunction and his Mars squaring your AQUA (wow) Venus. Interesting because that Venus-Mars square is probably the most intense and discordant one, in my opinion. Good thing you're the Venus here... As I've learned, thank to the ladies in IA, that a woman's Mars squaring a man's Venus indicates that she could be chasing him and it *might* be uncomfortable for both parties involved as the gender-roles are reversed.

Lots of intensity and attraction. I think your Moon is particularly affected by such a powerful conjunction on his part. It's a very deep and sexual contact. Not to mention that it falls in your 8th house! WOW.

Well, I'd like to be informed on what's happening there. I think a composite would be nice to see, just to compare to both your natal charts.

I would definitely keep an eye on his Neptunian ways. My advice would be to let him flow and for you to move more at his pace. Since he seems to be inconsistent, it is best for you to sit back and relax and give him the space to gather himself and make his motives clearer as the relationship between the two of you becomes develops (hopefully, it does). I think with his Gemini Moon too, there can be a tendency to run away when things get too serious too fast... But Mars-Pluto conjunction in the 12th is also very deep and instinctive. I would definitely enjoy the ride and let things unfold as naturally as possible. You have an interesting chart yourself with your Venus Rx in the 12th loosely conjunct Sun. Your Mars in Libra must also feel nice on his Gemini Moon, and having your Mars trine his Jupiter is also quite nice, expanding your sexual appetite. Generally a feel good aspect.

I would also advise you to trust your gut. You are a Pisces ASC (it also trines his Mars-Pluto which means he'd be very physically attracted to you) with Scorpio Moon in trine. Don't doubt what your intuition tells you, it is most probably true.

Thank you again and you are most welcome, unforgiven_soul. Anytime

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posted December 26, 2014 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before looking at his chart I thought Venus-Uranus which seems to be conjunction, if wide

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posted December 26, 2014 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PisceanDream:
Oh! They were amateur at best! Thank you!

Yes, I noticed your Moon mixed in with the Mars-Pluto conjunction and his Mars squaring your AQUA (wow) Venus. Interesting because that Venus-Mars square is probably the most intense and discordant one, in my opinion. Good thing you're the Venus here... As I've learned, thank to the ladies in IA, that a woman's Mars squaring a man's Venus indicates that she could be chasing him and it *might* be uncomfortable for both parties involved as the gender-roles are reversed.

Lots of intensity and attraction. I think your Moon is particularly affected by such a powerful conjunction on his part. It's a very deep and sexual contact. Not to mention that it falls in your 8th house! WOW.

Well, I'd like to be informed on what's happening there. I think a composite would be nice to see, just to compare to both your natal charts.

I would definitely keep an eye on his Neptunian ways. My advice would be to let him flow and for you to move more at his pace. Since he seems to be inconsistent, it is best for you to sit back and relax and give him the space to gather himself and make his motives clearer as the relationship between the two of you becomes develops (hopefully, it does). I think with his Gemini Moon too, there can be a tendency to run away when things get too serious too fast... But Mars-Pluto conjunction in the 12th is also very deep and instinctive. I would definitely enjoy the ride and let things unfold as naturally as possible. You have an interesting chart yourself with your Venus Rx in the 12th loosely conjunct Sun. Your Mars in Libra must also feel nice on his Gemini Moon, and having your Mars trine his Jupiter is also quite nice, expanding your sexual appetite. Generally a feel good aspect.

I would also advise you to trust your gut. You are a Pisces ASC (it also trines his Mars-Pluto which means he'd be very physically attracted to you) with Scorpio Moon in trine. Don't doubt what your intuition tells you, it is most probably true.

Thank you again and you are most welcome, unforgiven_soul. Anytime


I think my Moon conjuncting his Mars-Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th house will bring all the intimacy between us.Same goes for my 8th house, which freaks me out cause it's gonna be transformative.It will give me the ability to see through him. I bet my Aqua Venus challenges his Scorpio Mars and he loves to hunt me down. You bet it's deep and sexual. I'm so afraid to dive into his dark places but so willing to do so... I thought the same, gonna let him lead the game so he's not afraid. If he feels he has the control everything will flow naturally. He didn't answer on my text last night, but he's gonna pop out suddenly as always. He can't help him self. Thanks once again, I'm gonna keep you posted on how it goes. I will try to use astro.com now so it can be easy for everyone.

Sending you my love and appreciation <3

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posted December 27, 2014 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's start with astro.com
This is his chart:

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posted December 27, 2014 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is our synastry:

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posted December 27, 2014 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this is our composite chart:

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posted December 27, 2014 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iced8Ace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Mercury on neptune in his chart suggests illusions concerning his own sense of worth and can shake his confidence somewhat. Pretty solid chart though.

Synastry looks great, pent up energy could be a problem but having a couple of avenues for engaging activities would fix that.

The moon hard aspect to saturn in the composite chart also appears in his natal, with moon in his house of partnership and saturn in his 1st. He may have a skewed perception of himself, I would suggest insightful compliments to build his esteem.

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Wow. Sun-Venus conjunct exact in composite. That's very serious. Some astrologers say it's a true love aspect.

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posted December 27, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MARS PLUTO CONJUNCT IN SCORPIO!!! HOW DID I MISS THAT?

Wooh. Sounds very very very very very sexual and extremely magnetic, maybe even dark. In the 12th? Wow. There is so much to him that you have yet to discover it seems. Very very kinky and you'd probably never guess.


Mars-Pluto hard aspect isn't a guarantee of being very sexual/kinky. It can actually be the opposite, even when Scorpio is involved.

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Sure, it could be an indicator of many different things but in a romantic/sexual relationship it most likely is, given the nature of the signs and planets involved. It is also the most relevant interpretation.

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posted December 27, 2014 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can think of 4 cases including myself. They're all women though.

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That's fine, I'm sure there are cases in which the aspects play out differently but his conjunction in Scorpio isn't afflicted. I'm giving the most accurate, relevant, general interpretation. The "exception" isn't my concern here.

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posted December 27, 2014 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Gemini with Cap Sun can produce a bit of an oddball. And this guy is one and then some...

Moon in Gemini likes to talk. But with the opposition of Saturn to his Moon, there could be hindrance in expressing oneself.

Add to that the conjunction of Chiron in Gemini.And you have someone who may not believe that they have anything intelligent to say. Or has a massive stammering/ stuttering problem.

Whatever it could be, Chiron and Saturn conjunct in Gemini suggest some inhibition with speaking or expressing oneself.

The Sun(direction) is usually resolute and ambitious in Capricorn. But with the added conjunction of Neptune,the question grows to be more "Is the goal spiritually rewarding?" a lot of times. The position does not suggest a concern for accolades and awards.

Neptune adds haziness to the personality. Making it very difficult to ground the person or box them.They can be the child who never really ever grew up.

The added conjunction to Venus suggests that he likes reciprocation,responds to encouragement and praise. He may desire marriage,co-habitation or "sharing" in one form or another. He likes to "beautify" his life a lot.

Read Pisces Venus to get an understanding of what I mean by this.

Now the interesting bit is the Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio.Which kind of "jumps out" and concerns me.

Pluto rules the 1st house and its placement in conjunct to Mars in 12th scares me a little. This is much like a dormant volcano.

When one has the ruler of the 1st house in the 12th,there is a tendency for them to feel like things are happening "to them" . Instead of being in control of their life.

Mars and Pluto are both potent in Scorpio and in the 1st 10 degrees!!! No,that is too much energy for the 12th to go unnoticed.

There could be some frustration in the expression of the energies combined. Some inability to do it openly.

There are number of ways it can manifest;

People with 12th house Mars/Pluto conjunct tend to be propositioned in a wholly inappropriate manner.Most times sexually. Or they themselves could be the ones who do this to others.

Others tend to be caught up in violent or aggressive situations.Especially those of a sexual nature or involve some abuse of power.

Some find it hard to express this energy openly and can entertain doing things "in the dark" i.e addictions(mostly to porn),stalking people etc.

I have asteroid Juno that joins Mars and Pluto(by opposition aspect).

Asteroid Eros opposing Juno and joining Mars and Pluto(conjunction).

I am familiar with this strong obsessive energy too.Especially when it comes to sex(Pluto is in Scorpio).

I wonder what he is doing to "manage" it? If he does at all-that is.

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posted December 27, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
Sun-Mercury on neptune in his chart suggests illusions concerning his own sense of worth and can shake his confidence somewhat. Pretty solid chart though.

Synastry looks great, pent up energy could be a problem but having a couple of avenues for engaging activities would fix that.

The moon hard aspect to saturn in the composite chart also appears in his natal, with moon in his house of partnership and saturn in his 1st. He may have a skewed perception of himself, I would suggest insightful compliments to build his esteem.


I think he's trying to keep his self esteem high. Doesn't look with much self confidence, even though he's hiding it pretty well.

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posted December 27, 2014 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mars-Pluto hard aspect isn't a guarantee of being very sexual/kinky. It can actually be the opposite, even when Scorpio is involved.


Maybe there are other things diversing this conjunction on the charts you 're talking about. He's totally sexy, trust me lol. It can't get any better

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posted December 27, 2014 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow. Sun-Venus conjunct exact in composite. That's very serious. Some astrologers say it's a true love aspect.

PisceanDream I didn't notice about Sun-Venus conjunction.It's probably because we 're both Capricorns but sounds really harmonic on the composite. Generally, I think we have the same tamperament, 'cause we 're both Capricorn Suns, with water ASC. I think (Mercury) and fall in love (Venus) like an Aquarius, he thinks (Mercury) and falls in love (Venus) like a Sagitarrius. Also harmonic

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