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Topic: Jealousy placements/signs/planets
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EmGem
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posted January 17, 2015 11:57 PM
  
What are your views on where jealousy would be in a chart, or the most jealous signs, planets and aspects etc?IP: Logged |
Anisa
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posted January 18, 2015 12:03 AM
I have Scorpio moon, Scorpio rising, moon conj pluto and I am a very jealous person. Although I'm aware anger and jealousy are signs of weakness I still unfortunately let it get the best of me. What's mine is mine. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted January 18, 2015 12:34 AM
This is just my two cents on jealousy. It's really just something I noticed. I find that men with placements that are commonly considered "weak" ... e.g. Cancer/Pisces or Taurus Mars in hard aspect to Neptune and retrograde (that kind of cocktail!) become seriously jealous and blatantly nasty towards women who have strong placements... e.g. Mars in Aries, Scorpio or Capricorn.. in the 10th house trine Sun. Even if the signs in question are compatible ... e.g. Pisces Mars man and Scorpio Mars woman - the men are still inclined to be envious, jealous and nasty. I guess these synastry patterns don't go down well with the male ego.
The same trine would work out just fine in synastry if the female partner had the Pisces Mars. IP: Logged |
whaaat
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posted January 18, 2015 01:37 AM
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Barbiegirl19
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posted January 18, 2015 01:59 AM
Just my two cents. Jealousy, to me anyway, is based solely on the individual. It's insecurity within oneself. It's one of the worst evils in my opinion. Jealousy is hate. I have a few said jealous aspects and am not that way. I'm quite confident, aware of myself and know what I want. I don't need to stake a claim on a person, more than likely people are already aware and respect boundaries. I trust and am confident in those that I date therefore making jealousy totally irrelevant to me. I want what I have, not what someone else has. People whom are secure of themselves are not jealous people, as they have nothing to worry about. Insecure people are worry warts that are uncertain of themselves therefore uncertain of others. It all comes down to poise. I don't agree that's it's astrology related. IP: Logged |
wheresthemoon
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posted January 18, 2015 02:14 AM
I have Venus opposite Pluto and I am very jealous. I think Venus/Pluto aspects, especially the hard ones. Probably other Pluto aspects as well, like moon/Pluto and mercury/Pluto. Also Venus in Scorpio and probably Venus in the eighth. Maybe Venus/Mars aspects too, though not as much. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted January 18, 2015 06:01 AM
I think it's more a combo of synastry/natal and the individual... I was extremely jealous with my ex-boyfriend, and he was with me too, and we had sun square pluto and a lot of my planets in his 8th house. It was a very bad relationship! I can't even explain why we where that jealous, it's just something we brought up in each other I guess.In my current relationship, jealousy hasn't really been a theme, except once. I am a jealous person deep down, but somehow with my current boyfriend I am starting to handle it. I think it has a lot to do with how much you feel you can trust your partner, and how much self-confidence you have within yourself. I have sun in virgo, moon in pisces and venus in scorpio conjunct scorpio pluto in 5th house. It's 9 degrees wide, so doesn't really count.
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tgem
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posted January 18, 2015 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Just my two cents. Jealousy, to me anyway, is based solely on the individual. It's insecurity within oneself. It's one of the worst evils in my opinion. Jealousy is hate. I have a few said jealous aspects and am not that way. I'm quite confident, aware of myself and know what I want. I don't need to stake a claim on a person, more than likely people are already aware and respect boundaries. I trust and am confident in those that I date therefore making jealousy totally irrelevant to me. I want what I have, not what someone else has. People whom are secure of themselves are not jealous people, as they have nothing to worry about. Insecure people are worry warts that are uncertain of themselves therefore uncertain of others. It all comes down to poise. I don't agree that's it's astrology related.
Great outlook Barbie, I completely agree with this. I feel the same way but I do have a Taurus sun and I'm pretty Plutonian so I sometimes feel that jealously try to creep in on me. For the most part, though, I'm pretty good at keeping a lid on it. It rarely comes up. IP: Logged |
deepseablues
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posted January 19, 2015 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Just my two cents. Jealousy, to me anyway, is based solely on the individual. It's insecurity within oneself. It's one of the worst evils in my opinion. Jealousy is hate. I have a few said jealous aspects and am not that way. I'm quite confident, aware of myself and know what I want. I don't need to stake a claim on a person, more than likely people are already aware and respect boundaries. I trust and am confident in those that I date therefore making jealousy totally irrelevant to me. I want what I have, not what someone else has. People whom are secure of themselves are not jealous people, as they have nothing to worry about. Insecure people are worry warts that are uncertain of themselves therefore uncertain of others. It all comes down to poise. I don't agree that's it's astrology related.
I can agree with these statements in some ways but I think it needs a deeper insight. Jealousy is more hatred of the self than of the other person/thing, example, if one is jealous of someone else beauty or confidence, then those are things that one actually admires about the other person, and dislikes themself for feeling unable to attain that. Or jealousy of someone else ease in life, is not necessarily hating that person for having an easier or more comfortable time but disliking whatever it is in themself that causes them to not feel that way. In this light, jealousy is essentially a compliment to the person/thing that one is jealous of, for if one didn't want/admire that quality and feel deprived of it there would be no jealous feelings, therefore I don't see it as hatred for the person/thing, but again, of oneself for feeling a lack.
To feel insecure/uncertain about oneself and one's circumstances in life is a very hard feeling to live with and should be looked upon with empathy rather than scorn or thought of as an evil.
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Violets
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posted January 19, 2015 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
I have Venus opposite Pluto and I am very jealous.
Ditto. Also, my Venus is in Aries to top it off.
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unforgiven_soul
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posted January 19, 2015 09:02 AM
What if someone is a Scorpio Rising, and has Mars conjunct Pluto in the 12th house? Do you consider him jealous or what?I think he is jealous but keeps it hidden quite well.The 12th house hides our qualities as far as I know.I don't know about the Asc though which is shown to the whole world.IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
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posted January 19, 2015 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
I can agree with these statements in some ways but I think it needs a deeper insight. Jealousy is more hatred of the self than of the other person/thing, example, if one is jealous of someone else beauty or confidence, then those are things that one actually admires about the other person, and dislikes themself for feeling unable to attain that. Or jealousy of someone else ease in life, is not necessarily hating that person for having an easier or more comfortable time but disliking whatever it is in themself that causes them to not feel that way. In this light, jealousy is essentially a compliment to the person/thing that one is jealous of, for if one didn't want/admire that quality and feel deprived of it there would be no jealous feelings, therefore I don't see it as hatred for the person/thing, but again, of oneself for feeling a lack.
Well I believe it to be hatred(intense dislike) of oneself and of the person in which they're jealous of. Jealousy is envy, resent, tremendous feelings of unfaithfulness, uncertainty. How is that essentially a compliment to the person? To be envious, resentful of someone/a thing is actually a compliment? No, I respectfully disagree. No matter what way you look at it jealousy is in no way good nor is it secretly giving a compliment to the person that's on the receiving end of it. You can admire a person without being jealous of them. We shouldn't resent others, we shouldn't envy anyone or anything. If we are secure of ourselves than there would be zero feelings of uncertainty or unfaithfulness. A secure person trusts their mate, they respect them enough to never doubt their faithfulness. Jealousy is essentially paranoia. A jealous person is uncertain of themselves so they automatically feel the same for another person. They obsess over thinking that their mate is being unfaithful because they can't trust. That's what it boils down to. quote:
To feel insecure/uncertain about oneself and one's circumstances in life is a very hard feeling to live with and should be looked upon with empathy rather than scorn or thought of as an evil.
I respectfully disagree. I agree that it's a hard thing to life with, however if a person is that bitter and so unhappy with themselves that they ruin the happiness of others because they are jealous, they are unworthy of any empathy. Why should any person pat the back of a resentful, envious person? Why should anyone limit themselves to make a jealous person feel secure? No one should have to. It's up to the jealous person to fix it. Jealousy is a personal issue. It has nothing to do with anyone else but that person. It is evil as it is completely unpleasant with the abilities to drive a person to do malevolent things. Why sugar coat it? quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
Great outlook Barbie, I completely agree with this. I feel the same way but I do have a Taurus sun and I'm pretty Plutonian so I sometimes feel that jealously try to creep in on me. For the most part, though, I'm pretty good at keeping a lid on it. It rarely comes up.
Thanks, tgem.  I have a pretty strong Pluto as well as a strong Scorpio Venus. That's one thing that I don't experience. I'm too happy to feel that way. I like people to much to be envious. I have all that I need with the ability to get what I want. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted January 19, 2015 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by unforgiven_soul:
What if someone is a Scorpio Rising, and has Mars conjunct Pluto in the 12th house? Do you consider him jealous or what?I think he is jealous but keeps it hidden quite well.The 12th house hides our qualities as far as I know.I don't know about the Asc though which is shown to the whole world.
I have an ex who is a Taurus Sun, with Mars, Pluto, and Uranus conjunct in his 12H. They're all also conjunct his Asc, and he was very possessive, and very jealous, although he didn't really broadcast it. But it was there, alright. IP: Logged |
ikja
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posted January 19, 2015 04:03 PM
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I've got a Scorpio Moon, Venus opposition Pluto, Sun opposition Pluto, Sun, Venus, Mercury in Taurus.I'm hideously jealous :P
My jealousy can be tamed, but when it is aggravated and not talked down/comforted... the end is nigh. Venus Oppo Pluto here (I also have Scorpio rising and Venus in Taurus). The worse thing someone can do is not acknowledge why I feel that someone is overstepping their boundaries. I hardly think that I am irrational; or extremely insecure. However, when I do feel feelings of jealousy come up... I discuss them. It's when these feelings are taunted etc. For me, that's where the situation escalates. Jealousy for me is often a fear of instability. That someone is being put in a position to take my place. These feelings are not always unwarranted; and I hope that I have matured enough over the last few years and become more balanced when viewing certain "threatening" behaviours. As long as everyone stays in their respective lanes (like I do) and respects the relationship I have with another, my jealous tendencies are not a problem and will be vented to a girlfriend (if neccessary) and probably dismissed. IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul
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posted January 19, 2015 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
I have an ex who is a Taurus Sun, with Mars, Pluto, and Uranus conjunct in his 12H. They're all also conjunct his Asc, and he was very possessive, and very jealous, although he didn't really broadcast it. But it was there, alright.
Ok then he's jealous for sure lol! I don't wanna test, looks very dangerous in his chart.
ASC Scorpio
Mars conjunct Pluto in Scorpio
Sun in Capricorn
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deepseablues
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posted January 19, 2015 11:02 PM
Decided to edit because I am not trying to debate or derail a thread. I can just see it from a different side and don't necessarily think it's an evil trait.IP: Logged |
deepseablues
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posted January 19, 2015 11:07 PM
To answer the OP's question,Scorpio is pretty infamous for having to deal with/learn the lessons of the feelings of jealousy, possessiveness and resentment so I would look to Scorpio placements by sign or house. Taurus as well for possessiveness. IP: Logged |
Geeky
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posted January 20, 2015 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Just my two cents. Jealousy, to me anyway, is based solely on the individual. It's insecurity within oneself. It's one of the worst evils in my opinion. Jealousy is hate. I have a few said jealous aspects and am not that way. I'm quite confident, aware of myself and know what I want. I don't need to stake a claim on a person, more than likely people are already aware and respect boundaries. I trust and am confident in those that I date therefore making jealousy totally irrelevant to me. I want what I have, not what someone else has. People whom are secure of themselves are not jealous people, as they have nothing to worry about. Insecure people are worry warts that are uncertain of themselves therefore uncertain of others. It all comes down to poise. I don't agree that's it's astrology related.
Agree 100%!! I find that it's often learned behavior carried over from watching how one's parents interacted. Maturity is also a factor. ------------------
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Violets
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posted January 20, 2015 01:24 AM
So, yeah...nevermind.   IP: Logged |
davysong
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posted February 03, 2015 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Thanks, tgem. I have a pretty strong Pluto as well as a strong Scorpio Venus. That's one thing that I don't experience. I'm too happy to feel that way. I like people to much to be envious. I have all that I need with the ability to get what I want.
I agree with everything you said. I, have Mercury,Pluto and Venus in Scorpio,all 3 conjunct to each other. I won't lie and say that I am never jealous, but it is not that strong.It can happen once in a while,and I usually love to laugh about it and make jokes,so my bf knows about it. But it isn't that strong really. I think it's because I have Sun,Venus,Mercury and Pluto in 1st house,and I kinda act more Aries like(also,I am Libra Sun and Rising).Jealousy is really not my style,I love people who are busy with their life,independently of their personal relationship,and i never see a partner like a possession or a property.I am usually not clingy or needy,more independent and a free spirit. Just my two cent. Peace and Love y'all from Shanghai!
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babybull82
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posted February 03, 2015 02:16 PM
I remember being in Kindergarten and being jealous of this girl because it was her birthday and she got to wear the b-day ribbon and got to be at the front of the line all day. lol Looking back it's very silly. I'm not sure of what aspects it could be, but I have a Taurus sun and my 4th house is on the cusp of Scorpio. And albeit late I am a Leo asc..and we know how Leo can be lol Should also mention this was the very first time I dealt with jealousy which is probably why I still remember it so vividly. I admit I still get jealous occasionally but not of the person themselves I can be happy for them, it's just I start to think about the stuff I DON'T have and it makes me feel bad. Perhaps Saturn in the second and Jupiter in the 3rd in Scorpio contributes to that? Not sure. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted February 03, 2015 03:59 PM
I have venus opposite pluto, and moon square pluto. In fact, pluto aspects many of my inner planets. My ruling planet (Saturn) is also in Scorpio. Despite this, I'm not the jealous type. I'm genuinely happy when others succeed.I think jealousy comes down to a bit of nature and nurture. Jealousy results from insecurity. A person who is already genetically predisposed towards jealousy may become extremely jealous in relationships if they, for example, witnessed a loved one being cheated on or if they were cheated on by their first love. IP: Logged |
Claudine
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posted March 30, 2017 03:23 PM
Well,
I am jealousy, mostly because I am insecure and I think that at the end my partner choose someone else\better than me. I am not abusive on this though, so I try to keep these feelings inside.
My principles help me to deal with it in order not to hurt my partner, as I want equal and respectful relationships.
Placements:
Scorpio Moon conj Pluto in 5H,
Moon+Pluto opposite Venus
Mars in 2H
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MarsSaturnDelight
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posted March 30, 2017 03:40 PM
I'm jealous and I fookin love it!Scorp mars
Venus square Pluto
Eight house moon Makes me feel alive! 😂😂 IP: Logged |
saadsarah8
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posted March 30, 2017 04:07 PM
Extremely, insanely and unreasonably jealous!! It's not fun being this way.I have:
- Sun on the cancer/leo cusp
- Venus square mars exact (mutables)
- Venus opposite saturn
- Sun square jupiter
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