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Ami Anne
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posted January 27, 2015 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seem to like my first article, so I am doing a Part Two.

1. Pisces Moon
Pisces Moon is very sensitive. I say that it is too sensitive for this world. I mean that. Pisces Moon natives feel emotions more deeply than other people. They feel hurts more deeply than others. They have a depth of sensitivity which is unique to this Moon. The Moon is the deepest part of a person. For the Pisces Moon native, he will be extremely sensitive to all life stimuli, irrespective of any other chart factors. Hence, he may get depressed as a result of issues and situations from which another Moon could detach. The Pisces Moon lives on a deeper plane of feelings. Know that fact when you see a Pisces Moon and give him a little extra kindness. He needs it.

2.Chiron conjunct the Ascendent
This aspect is one of the hardest in the entire spectrum of chart aspects. The native will, likely, be bullied. The closeness of the orb to the ASC will determine the degree of severity of the bullying, in my experience. If one is bullied, one will tend to be depressed, and rightfully and naturally so.

3.Chiron conjunct Kaali

This aspect is rather rare but it does pack a big punch to those unfortunate people who possess it. Kaali is one’s Kundalini energy. This is one’s life force. It is called chi, in Chinese Medicine. When the planet of pain(Chiron) conjuncts the asteroid of vital life force, we have a person who is submerged in a GREAT deal of pain, through no fault of her own. It is as if pain accompanies her breathing. Pain is that very visceral.

4. Moon conjunct Chiron

The Moon is one’s deepest heart. As in the above example, what touches the Moon touches our viscera. Hence, this native is prone to deep pain. Deep pain, usually, produces depression. This native may have had an extremely painful relationship with her mother. Also, her own feminine said may evoke pain in her, as a result.

5. Saturn conjunct the Ascendent

This placement seems to confer a great deal of self doubt which seems to persist through the life of the native. We may call it low self esteem, in the current terminology. The native may feel as if she can never measure up. She may relate to the adage, ‘I don’t want to be a member of a club that wants me to be a member. This native may have tooth or bone problems. She may have physical features to which she has a dislike. This may add to the depression and the feeling that she can never measure up.

6. Neptune Conjunct Mars

In some natives, this may result in a kind of apathy toward goal setting. The native may feel as if he is stuck in inertia, through no fault of his own. He may daydream instead of taking direct, goal oriented action. Hence, this may be a factor in depression.

7. Neptune Conjunct the Ascendent

These natives tend to have a weak sense of self, through no fault of their own, Neptune makes amorphous that which it touches. The ASC is a very action oriented point. A person needs to know that he has a direct power in his own life. If not, depression may result

8. Chiron in the 12th House

Pain is very hard for this native to access. Hence, there may be a feeling of underlying pain, of which the native cannot remedy because it’s essence is obscured to him.

9. Venus conjunct Nessus

These natives seem to attract abuse in relationships. This is through no fault of their own. However, as one can imagine, this could lead to a sense of hopelessness and depression.

10. Chiron conjunct the North Node

This aspect seems as if one could count on depression accompanying. As in all aspects, the degree of the orb is key. In a very close orb, I would think depression would be a life factor

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posted January 27, 2015 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gotta say I have 2(maybe 3?) of these aspect.

Moon in pisces, chiron conjunct ascendant and chiron in 12th. But when chiron is conjunct ascendant, I don't know if I should count chiron in 12th.

But actually, I feel fine. I don't see emotions as weekness, and being bullied as young only strengthen a person (most persons). I don't feel emotionally weak at all after all I have gone through

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posted January 27, 2015 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feel free to add more, dear Friends. My goal is that we all learn together!

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posted January 27, 2015 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house in general.

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posted January 27, 2015 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
12th house in general.


Yep. Hope you are doing well, DF!

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posted January 28, 2015 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces moon and neptune conjunct ascendent but on the 12th house side. (Already discussed neptune in the other thread ). I definitely agree as pisces moon we are extremely sensitive but, again, I don't know if I would say it is a depression aspect. More like another empath aspect. I find cancer moons to be much more personally sensitive and depression prone due to how moody they are.

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posted January 28, 2015 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
Pisces moon and neptune conjunct ascendent but on the 12th house side. (Already discussed neptune in the other thread ). I definitely agree as pisces moon we are extremely sensitive but, again, I don't know if I would say it is a depression aspect. More like another empath aspect. I find cancer moons to be much more personally sensitive and depression prone due to how moody they are.

Moon is home when in Cancer. They are sensitive, but in a whole other way. This does not lead to being depressed, wtf? Actually I think the moon in a water sign is good, it's good for a persons feelings, emotions and sensitivity. I don't see these things as bad, though I can see that a lot of people in here apparently do.

Why are emotions and being sensitive a bad thing? I think we could use more people in this world who has a well-developed empathy and sympathy. These days, It's like people see any sign of showing emotions as a sign of showing weakness.

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posted January 28, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm involved with someone who has a Pisces Moon, pisces mercury retrograde. He also has Saturn conjunct his Sun, Moon, mercury, and venus and to make matters worse, Chiron is opposite his Moon, mercury, and venus natally AND chiron is retrograde in his 12th house conjunct his Asc. & to top it all off, he is currently going through a Saturn & neptune transit. T Saturn is currently square his Sun, Moon, mercury, and venus while T Neptune is currently conjunct his Moon, mercury, and venus. He also has a 6th house stellium with saturn throen in the loop so he's already a workaholic but at this stage in his life, he says he lost and needs to find his purpose in life. It's a very stressful time for us at the moment. I wish there was some way I can heal all of that depression and pain. I think chiron-influenced individula are so sentitive that they can imagine hurt when there is none so you can never really 'win' with them. My guy also has pluto square his sun, mercury, and venus so hid pain drives him to be very suspicious and guarded. He's a walking enigma! Especially with an Aqua Sun, vrnus, amd mars thrown in there! Virgo Asc.

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posted January 28, 2015 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depression? Neptune/Saturn area that. Well atleast in my opinion.

So...

Asc/Dsc/Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars/SN in Pisces/aspecting Neptune/in 12th

Same planets,SN and sensitive angles in Cap/aspecting Saturn.

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posted January 29, 2015 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Moon is home when in Cancer. They are sensitive, but in a whole other way. This does not lead to being depressed, wtf? Actually I think the moon in a water sign is good, it's good for a persons feelings, emotions and sensitivity. I don't see these things as bad, though I can see that a lot of people in here apparently do.

Why are emotions and being sensitive a bad thing? I think we could use more people in this world who has a well-developed empathy and sympathy. These days, It's like people see any sign of showing emotions as a sign of showing weakness.


Not sure what you mean by "wtf". This is my personal opinion from knowing many cancer moon people. They seem (again, this is my OPINION) prone to depression that comes and goes depending on different life circumstances.

And, I didn't take this thread as anyone saying emotions are a bad thing.

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posted January 29, 2015 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion and experience, Next to Neptune baits people. He/she has baited me quite a bit if you check my threads.

I find the best thing to do in such cases is to ignore, Ann!

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posted January 29, 2015 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In my opinion and experience, Next to Neptune baits people. He/she has baited me quite a bit if you check my threads.

I find the best thing to do in such cases is to ignore, Ann!


Lol - it worked. Thanks for the heads up, Ami Anne.

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posted January 29, 2015 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Ann it just took me 7 years to learn

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posted January 29, 2015 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait....

You used to say that it took you 6 years. Now it's 7.
So the question is, have you in fact learned it at all?

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posted January 29, 2015 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Wait....

You used to say that it took you 6 years. Now it's 7.
So the question is, have you in fact learned it at all?


It may have taken me 6. You are right. How much Virgo do you have in your chart

PS To answer you, I have not learned it perfectly, no. I don't think one can.

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posted January 29, 2015 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In my opinion and experience, Next to Neptune baits people. He/she has baited me quite a bit if you check my threads.

I find the best thing to do in such cases is to ignore, Ann!


And you keep writing the same stuff in here, making almost the same kind of threads, where you punch people from having the same kind of aspect...I feel that you try to judge people, just because of a few aspect they have.. it's just not true and it irritates me.

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posted January 29, 2015 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To AmiAnne:
For an example the Chiron Conjunct Ascendant aspect, I cannot count how many times you have made a thread now, telling everyone that this aspect is some of the worst aspect, because it means that a person was "severe bullied". I cannot find anything about this anywhere on the internet, except in your threads.
And it irritates me to see that you make this statement constantly, because it is a very big judgement of people, which is simply incorrect.

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posted January 29, 2015 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In my opinion and experience, Next to Neptune baits people. He/she has baited me quite a bit if you check my threads.

I find the best thing to do in such cases is to ignore, Ann!


So you unsuccessfully didn't try to bait me the day right after I stopped posting in Hearth and Home? I mean, if you are cast judgement against others you had better walk the walk.

When has nexttoneptune ever baited you? Provide receipts, because there is a whole lot of evidence around LL showing you doing this to other people.

Nexttoneptune: I 100% agree, don't let her belittle your opinion. I completely get what you are saying- these articles are recycled repeatedly. I think you just had a misunderstanding with Ann7, but there is nothing wrong with having a different opinion, both of you are entitled to say whatever you want.

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posted January 29, 2015 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one should be belittling anyone here. No desire to to be subjected to drama - however I am all for exchanging thoughts in a respectful manner.

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posted January 29, 2015 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
No one should be belittling anyone here. No desire to to be subjected to drama - however I am all for exchanging thoughts in a respectful manner.

I 100% agree. OP just needs to not make falsified and rude comments towards people who are contributing just because they disagree with something.

Anyways, carry on. You guys had good conversation in here.

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posted January 29, 2015 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
So you unsuccessfully didn't try to bait me the day right after I stopped posting in Hearth and Home? I mean, if you are cast judgement against others you had better walk the walk.

When has nexttoneptune ever baited you? Provide receipts, because there is a whole lot of evidence around LL showing you doing this to other people.

Nexttoneptune: I 100% agree, don't let her belittle your opinion. I completely get what you are saying- these articles are recycled repeatedly. I think you just had a misunderstanding with Ann7, but there is nothing wrong with having a different opinion, both of you are entitled to say whatever you want.


Thank you And I am glad that someone understand what I mean

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posted January 29, 2015 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As usual you look for ANY opportunity you can to go after Ami or myself.

Is your life really that sad and depressing that in order to feel better about yourself, you attack and belittle people, Bella?

You are NOT the webmaster here. Stop attacking people. If you have an issue you should be contacting Randall. What Ami said didn't involve you. Quit sticking your nose where it doesn't belong and stirring up more drama.

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posted January 29, 2015 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
As usual you look for ANY opportunity you can to go after Ami or myself.

Is your life really that sad and depressing that in order to feel better about yourself, you attack and belittle people, Bella?

You are NOT the webmaster here. Stop attacking people. If you have an issue you should be contacting Randall. What Ami said didn't involve you. Quit sticking your nose where it doesn't belong and stirring up more drama.



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posted January 29, 2015 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barbie, as a mod please execute better judgement. Ami was rude to nexttoneptune, and it wasn't fair for her to be accused of something that isnt' true. Ami has repeatedly told people who hold a different viewpoint that "oh they are just baiting me," so I am not going to sit her and let her treat nexttoneptune like that.

No, I typically ignore Ami's threads because we don't get along, so why bother. If it wasn't for nexttoneptune's situation, I would have never posted. Go look at Ami's last 10 threads- did I post in them? No.

I never talk about either of you, because to be honest, neither one of you are worth my time. You can keep projecting on me if it makes you feel better, but by exaggerating and falsifying the truth with your statements, you only prove my point further.

If standing up for another member is considered to be an "attack," then I will gladly keep doing it. There is no proof of me attacking people constantly, so that argument holds no water.

If Ami has an issue with me, then for once she can directly respond to me instead of this quoting someone else crap.

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posted January 29, 2015 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have several of the aspects you listed from both threads and suffered with depression throughout my teenage years.

Excellent post as usual, Ami.

Thank you for sharing.

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