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Faith
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posted January 30, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edits giant pic of Tom Hardy*

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 30, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aha! Gotcha! Not fully deserting, have we? You're still a sista!

That was a low blow from me, wasn't it? With Tom

Welcome back where you belong!


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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted January 30, 2015 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You really did weasel out my weak spot! Well done.

And OMG did you know he married a Capricorn lady???

It's nice to know The Second Coming has good taste in women...

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I'm so cappy
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posted January 30, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elvis!

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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Faith
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posted January 30, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, but those are the only two.

Otherwise I have my head screwed on real tight.

I think.

ETA:

Elvis and Tom Hardy sorta look alike:

Lips, eyes...

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DeepFreeze
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posted January 30, 2015 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
This is interesting DF..can you elaborate more coming from a male's POV? Do you believe in the fairytale?

Mmmm.... IDK. My Venus 12th is feeling shy. LOL

But I imagine it's the same really. Anyone of any status is open to being the subject of it. There's just no boundaries or obstacles that can't be broken. It'll happen one way or another. It makes for a really talented persuader, or seducer. Strong ability to lure in.
But reality comes crashing after a while. Especially with a Virgo Venus.

Over time, it became less of a problem. As in, I should say less frequent of a problem. Once caught in the snare of Neptune, it's really difficult to see reality.

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Aquacheeka
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posted January 30, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune aspects and Pisces personal placements. Also maybe Venus in the 7th. I am sad to say I have both. I wish I wasn't a hopeless romantic since Juno is conjunct my Saturn and I will probably never marry.

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posted January 30, 2015 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
You really did weasel out my weak spot! Well done.

And OMG did you know he married a Capricorn lady???

It's nice to know The Second Coming has good taste in women...


Yes, I love them, great couple Very good actor. A breath of fresh air. Intriguing voice, versatile. And smoking hot

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posted January 30, 2015 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 30, 2015 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Neptune aspects and Pisces personal placements. Also maybe Venus in the 7th. I am sad to say I have both. I wish I wasn't a hopeless romantic since Juno is conjunct my Saturn and I will probably never marry.

Aww, you can marry ME. If you don't mind it would happen in Las Vegas and the marriage would last 1 day

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posted January 30, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to ask my fellow romantics here, especially Venus/Neptune. You talk about the "delusion" of perfect love ending in disappointment. We all know how it feels. But if I am to be honest with myself, in all cases, there was this little voice in the back of my head warning me about this possible disappointment. I could have listened to it (sometimes did) but, in a way, I more or less consciously chose the Tolstoian path lol as if there was a need for that in me, a thirst needing quenching at any cost. At least a bit of an illusion until the REAL dream is here...a bit like a small dose of a surrogate drug?? Methadone instead of the real deal? Let's be honest with ourselves! Was it the same for you? The little voice? Or I'm the only one around here hearing voices?

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Sailor Gemini
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posted January 30, 2015 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ReeseC:
Yes, how did you know? Uranus(4th) conjunct Neptune(5th) in Saturn.

It was mainly that they were both trine your Aphrodite.

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I want to ask my fellow romantics here, especially Venus/Neptune. You talk about the "delusion" of perfect love ending in disappointment. We all know how it feels. But if I am to be honest with myself, in all cases, there was this little voice in the back of my head warning me about this possible disappointment. I could have listened to it (sometimes did) but, in a way, I more or less consciously chose the Tolstoian path lol as if there was a need for that in me, a thirst needing quenching at any cost. At least a bit of an illusion until the REAL dream is here...a bit like a small dose of a surrogate drug?? Methadone instead of the real deal? Let's be honest with ourselves! Was it the same for you? The little voice? Or I'm the only one around here hearing voices?


I think you got it right. Even so, in my head, perfection screams failure because nothing ever is perfect.

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posted January 30, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
...I wish I wasn't a hopeless romantic since Juno is conjunct my Saturn and I will probably never marry.

That's not how it works. It just means you shouldn't (not can't but shouldn' t) marry before your first Kronos Return.

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tgem
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posted January 30, 2015 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Mmmm.... IDK. My Venus 12th is feeling shy. LOL

But I imagine it's the same really. Anyone of any status is open to being the subject of it. There's just no boundaries or obstacles that can't be broken. It'll happen one way or another. It makes for a really talented persuader, or seducer. Strong ability to lure in.
But reality comes crashing after a while. Especially with a Virgo Venus.

Over time, it became less of a problem. As in, I should say less frequent of a problem. Once caught in the snare of Neptune, it's really difficult to see reality.


LOL that's ok DF. Thanks for the input. I have 12th venus in Gem opposite neptune and the guy I'm crazy about has venus in Pisces square neptune. That's kind of why I wondered..btw we're not together. Always interesting to hear a guys POV.

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posted January 30, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
LOL that's ok DF. Thanks for the input. I have 12th venus in Gem opposite neptune and the guy I'm crazy about has venus in Pisces square neptune. That's kind of why I wondered..btw we're not together. Always interesting to hear a guys POV.

Sure! Hopefully it was helpful.
People always give obsession to Pluto but Neptune under the right conditions I think can EASILY match it, if not surpass it. Neptune can obsess but it's not confined to reality. It can create it's own reality to obsess over.

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Faith
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posted January 30, 2015 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 30, 2015 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
That's not how it works. It just means you shouldn't (not can't but shouldn't) marry before your first Kronos Return.


I'm going through my Saturn Return right now but the interpretation I read said, "delay or deny." I am prepared for either outcome but considering that I also have a Mars-Saturn conjunction making my life efforts thwarted at every turn I think it's more likely to be the second one.

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posted January 30, 2015 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sailor Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ares conjunct Kronos conjunct Hera(3 Juno). There's a chance you're projecting this onto your partner if this is all in 12H. You might be denying yourself of this on your own through a need for autonomy. Any aspects between them and Dios(Jupiter) and Aphrodite(Venus)?

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posted January 30, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I want to ask my fellow romantics here, especially Venus/Neptune. You talk about the "delusion" of perfect love ending in disappointment. We all know how it feels. But if I am to be honest with myself, in all cases, there was this little voice in the back of my head warning me about this possible disappointment. I could have listened to it (sometimes did) but, in a way, I more or less consciously chose the Tolstoian path lol as if there was a need for that in me, a thirst needing quenching at any cost. At least a bit of an illusion until the REAL dream is here...a bit like a small dose of a surrogate drug?? Methadone instead of the real deal? Let's be honest with ourselves! Was it the same for you? The little voice? Or I'm the only one around here hearing voices?


I read the description of mars-neptune from Sanja Peric (http://sanjaperic.com/2012/05/25/mars-and-neptun-%E2%80%93-the-doors-of-perception/) and its about exploring the depth of the soul

I think venus-neptune is similar but in a venusian way. I have almost exact (.02 orb) and I could tell that certain relationships were going to go down but I went there any way and in the end kinda regret but not really. Like you said, I had a thirst, often also associated with being young and inexperienced. I wouldn't know how it feels to be able to say in certain if I want something like that again. It's about having faith.

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posted January 30, 2015 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
I read the description of mars-neptune from Sanja Peric (http://sanjaperic.com/2012/05/25/mars-and-neptun-%E2%80%93-the-doors-of-perception/) and its about exploring the depth of the soul

I think venus-neptune is similar but in a venusian way.


my Neptune doesn't aspect Venus. It is opposite Mars, trine Jupiter/Asc. I wonder if that is why I do believe in true love, but not in the perfect lover. I believe in the perfect love, and the one who will inspire me to unconditional love...is that different from what you guys are saying?

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posted January 30, 2015 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
...the one who will inspire me to unconditional love...

Or is that not really in Prince/Princess Charming's job description?

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posted January 30, 2015 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
my Neptune doesn't aspect Venus. It is opposite Mars, trine Jupiter/Asc. I wonder if that is why I do believe in true love, but not in the perfect lover. I believe in the perfect love, and the one who will inspire me to unconditional love...is that different from what you guys are saying?

Finding love that explore the depth of ones soul, not in the plutonian pain/rebirth/healing way but the one who gives me unconditionally and who is healing to my wounds.
That's not Prince charming to me but rather the one who is aware of my weaknesses and give me their all any way without asking for anything back.

In a way it's unrealistic

But that's me!

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posted January 31, 2015 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Aww, you can marry ME. If you don't mind it would happen in Las Vegas and the marriage would last 1 day



Haha! I'll take you up on that when I turn 40.

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posted January 31, 2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Finding love that explore the depth of ones soul, not in the plutonian pain/rebirth/healing way but the one who gives me unconditionally and who is healing to my wounds.
That's not Prince charming to me but rather the one who is aware of my weaknesses and give me their all any way without asking for anything back.

In a way it's unrealistic

But that's me!



But is it unrealistic to want to be inspired to love that way?

So the perfect lover is not perfect, but the one who inspires me to perfection in love, unconditional love (my ideal of love). Isn't the truest experience of love in the way that you love and not how you are loved, because how does anyone really know how they are loved?

Is that romance? I think it IS. It just isn't the same thing as being romanced.

Am I off topic?

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posted January 31, 2015 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to look at it on paper (screen) it seems unrealistic, or like something I haven't completely understood, because there is the issue of choice here...

lol, theunknown. One thing you inspire is the weirdness in me.

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