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Topic: What happens if someone has all planets in one sign?
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deptic
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posted February 11, 2015 08:07 PM
  
Is it possible? If not, just for argument sake, what would this person be like? :PIP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted February 11, 2015 09:51 PM
it's possible, but would be very rare since the outer planets would also need to be in the same sign. it's much more common to just have a major stellium and even then maybe 9 is the maximum, imo. i have 7 planets in 1 sign and 1 house - sun, venus, mars, mercury, pluto, uranus, and an asteroid. it really just makes you the stereotype of that sign and everything you read about that sign pretty much pertains to the person. when a major stellium occurs it usually lands in one house, or perhaps two, and that also intensifies the life focus. the planets often end up conjunct, and if they are the major personal planets you also get someone who will be more aggressive than the sign normally might be. you end up with a very stereotypical sign/person who is completely focused on one (or two) areas of life because the signs usually occupy a single house.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted February 11, 2015 10:58 PM
how could it make you the stereotype of that sign with all those conjunctions? asking 'cause i know a guy who's sun, mercury, venus, mars, and i think neptune are in capricorn (possibly uranus too) IP: Logged |
deptic
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posted February 11, 2015 11:04 PM
So you're saying one sign too many is not good, as they say, too much of anything is not good. Correct? Would this person be crazy? Or just aggressive And focused Likep u said? IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted February 11, 2015 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
how could it make you the stereotype of that sign with all those conjunctions? asking 'cause i know a guy who's sun, mercury, venus, mars, and i think neptune are in capricorn (possibly uranus too)
well, just take cappy.. the stereotype is hard-working, career-focused, interested in money, unemotional, etc. a person with a cappy sun is going to exhibit a few of the capricorn traits some of the time. now take a giant stellium, the person is going to most likely exhibit all of the traits a majority of the time, so they will fit the stereotype of the sign and embody it more fully. and the cap planets will all land in 1 or 2 houses, so it'll come out in those areas the most IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted February 11, 2015 11:21 PM
But if Sun is conjunct Mercury and Mercury Venus, and all of those to Neptune wouldn't the person be more of a mixture of those planets and then the Capricorn traits? Basically what takes precedence in this instance, the aspect or the sign personality? IP: Logged |
mianfei
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posted February 12, 2015 02:24 AM
To have all planets in a single sign would likely create major problems and a few potentials that would be very tough to realise were all the planets in one sign. In practice, it might be more trouble than it is worth to overcome the weak points of a sign even if the positive aspects were well-used.If they were perfectly used and the weaknesses of other signs turned to advantage (as can happen) a person born then could be potentially exceptional. The “modern” major stellia (in Taurus 1853, 1881 and 2000; in Sagittarius with Ceres and Pallas 1899, in Cancer 1915, in Aquarius 1962 and in Capricorn 1994) where seven planets occupied one sign have not been exceeded in the past 370 years and will only be briefly equalled in the next 125. In fact, at no point since 1646 and up to 2139 will all ten planets (Sun to Pluto) be in signs of the same element. There exist eight periods containing nine planets in earth, viz: - 24 to 26 April and 4 to 5 May 1714 (Jupiter in Aries)
- 15 to 17 September 1715 (Mars in Sagittarius)
- 19 to 21 May 1774 (Venus in Aries)
- 10 to 11 January 1775 (Saturn in Libra)
- 1 to 3 January 1823 (Pluto in Pisces; poet Sándor Petőfi born on 1 January with Libra Ascendant)
- 15 to 17 September 1878 (Saturn retrograding from Aries to Pisces; businessman/politician Jacques Dubion born during this period without known birth time)
- 8 to 9 May 1881 (Mars in Pisces)
- 21 May 2107 (Mercury in Gemini) On 17 and 18 April 1710 there were nine planets in fire (Saturn in Cancer); the nearest-born famous person is dancer Marie-Anne Cupis de Camargo (‘http://www.behindballet.com/five-women-who-changed-the-face-of-ballet/’ for a brief look) who born in 15 April (without a known birth time) had Moon in Scorpio and Mercury in Pisces rather than in fire. I have not found any cases with more than eight planets in air or in water, and do not believe any exist within the reviewed period. At least three cases – 29 to 31 October 1875, 14 to 16 November 2041, and 3 to 4 February 2125 – exist or will exist of all ten planets in fixed mode signs. Queen Marie of Romania was born with all planets in fixed signs, but had a Sagittarius Ascendant (‘http://astrotheme.com/chart/M2uGIHkJJKp2AaSuZQNjZGRj.png’). At least two cases – 14 December 1817 plus 22-23 and 28-29 May 2052 – exist of all ten planets in mutable mode signs. I have found none with all ten in cardinal mode signs and do not believe this occurs between 1646 and 2139. IP: Logged |
7ate9
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posted February 12, 2015 04:10 AM
I think i have some first hand experience in this matter... http://astrotheme.com/chart/ZGRjZGR5BGDlZmV1ZQNjZQRjZQNmAQtkZD.png
Gonna get back to this thread later today when im not busy. I forgot how to attach image directly on the post so there is only that link... IP: Logged |
mianfei
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posted February 12, 2015 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by 7ate9:
I think i have some first hand experience in this matter... http://astrotheme.com/chart/ZGRjZGR5BGDlZmV1ZQNjZQRjZQNmAQtkZD.png
Gonna get back to this thread later today when im not busy. I forgot how to attach image directly on the post so there is only that link...
That is an dense stellium – thanks for it as I had not noticed the 1994 Capricorn conjunction. It is actually tighter than the other “great” modern stellia – at its peak all the planets were within about 7˚ rather than covering the whole sign as the other cases did. It would certainly suggest a person amazingly good with business and ability to succeed – someone who could move from the very poor to exceptionally rich due to their skill – but on the other hand Capricorn can be fatalistic and over-conventional.IP: Logged |
7ate9
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posted February 12, 2015 08:08 AM
So yes that chart I linked is mine in case you wondered if i just picked a big stellium I found. I believe I'm destined to succeed, I can pick up any new thing and usually I suck at it first but slowly I get really good at it. It happens to me in all areas of life... Mathematics, languages, drawing, basketball, disc golf, girls, video games, singing (my latest hobby, and I TOTALLY sucked at it like 2 years ago, now i get praised for it ^^). I really am not even bragging I'm being totally realistic and honest. It's my favourite thing to challenge myself with new stuff since I KNOW I will get good at it after working for it. I'm the ultimate "mountain climber". The thing I enjoy the most is, I usually succeed against all odds and expectations and I love to surprise people!!  I think my LIBRA asc balances the "sad loner" energy of CAPRICORN really nicely and I'm pretty social and popular fellow. Also I like Uranus and Neptune being there, they really add depth to my personality. My friends regard me as unpredictable. I'm also deeply spiritual. If I only had all 5 personal planets in CAPRICORN I think I'd be the definition of boring materialist. xD IP: Logged |
deptic
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posted February 12, 2015 12:00 PM
Haha me too, I take time to learn something, then I get really good at it! Especially if someone taught me, eventually I might do it better than the person who taught me, then I might have to turn around and teach the same person who taught me lol. Funny ain't it. I build momentum first.IP: Logged |
peony
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posted February 12, 2015 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
it's possible, but would be very rare since the outer planets would also need to be in the same sign. it's much more common to just have a major stellium and even then maybe 9 is the maximum, imo. i have 7 planets in 1 sign and 1 house - sun, venus, mars, mercury, pluto, uranus, and an asteroid. it really just makes you the stereotype of that sign and everything you read about that sign pretty much pertains to the person. when a major stellium occurs it usually lands in one house, or perhaps two, and that also intensifies the life focus. the planets often end up conjunct, and if they are the major personal planets you also get someone who will be more aggressive than the sign normally might be. you end up with a very stereotypical sign/person who is completely focused on one (or two) areas of life because the signs usually occupy a single house.
Starmoon, I once saw the chart of Charles Baudelaire, a poet born in 1821 who you probably never heard of. He had five planets and Chiron in Aries. I had no idea how to interpret that. Your comments were helpful, thanks! IP: Logged |
peony
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posted February 12, 2015 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by mianfei:
On 17 and 18 April 1710 there were nine planets in fire (Saturn in Cancer); the nearest-born famous person is dancer Marie-Anne Cupis de Camargo (‘http://www.behindballet.com/five-women-who-changed-the-face-of-ballet/’ for a brief look) who born in 15 April (without a known birth time) had Moon in Scorpio and Mercury in Pisces rather than in fire. I have not found any cases with more than eight planets in air or in water, and do not believe any exist within the reviewed period.
mianfei, interesting research. As for Marie-Anne Cupis de Camargo, I imagine it must have been amazing to see her dance! IP: Logged |
peony
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posted February 12, 2015 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by 7ate9:
So yes that chart I linked is mine in case you wondered if i just picked a big stellium I found. I believe I'm destined to succeed, I can pick up any new thing and usually I suck at it first but slowly I get really good at it. It happens me in all areas of life... Mathematics, languages, drawing, basketball, disc golf, girls, video games, singing (my latest hobby, and I TOTALLY sucked at it like 2 years ago, now i get praised for it ^^). I really am not even bragging I'm being totally realistic and honest. It's my favourite thing to challenge myself with new stuff since I KNOW I will get good at it after working for it. I'm the ultimate "mountain climber". The thing I enjoy the most is, I usually succeed against all odds and expectations and I love to surprise people!! I think my LIBRA asc balances the "sad loner" energy of CAPRICORN really nicely and I'm pretty social and popular fellow. Also I like Uranus and Neptune being there, they really add depth to my personality. My friends regard me as unpredictable. I'm also deeply spiritual. If I only had all 5 personal planets in CAPRICORN I think I'd be the definition of boring materialist. xD
I was thinking about your rising sign because in esoteric astrology, it shows the soul's purpose. In EA, Uranus is the ruler of Libra. I believe very evolved souls came in during the Uranus-Neptune conjunction, which we need the state of the world being what it is. IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade
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posted February 12, 2015 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by 7ate9:
I think i have some first hand experience in this matter... http://astrotheme.com/chart/ZGRjZGR5BGDlZmV1ZQNjZQRjZQNmAQtkZD.png
Gonna get back to this thread later today when im not busy. I forgot how to attach image directly on the post so there is only that link...
Ohhh. Nice!!
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LucieLemonade
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posted February 12, 2015 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by mianfei:
The “modern” major stellia (in Taurus 1853, 1881 and 2000; in Sagittarius with Ceres and Pallas 1899, in Cancer 1915, in Aquarius 1962 and in Capricorn 1994) where seven planets occupied one sign have not been exceeded in the past 370 years and will only be briefly equalled in the next 125.
What about Sag in 1995? Does or am I missing what you mean by "major stellium"? I only ask because I remember this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205004.html She has 7 planets in Sag AND a Sag ASC. IP: Logged |
GemBird82
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posted February 12, 2015 06:32 PM
it would be a "just bring it" chart IP: Logged |
deepseablues
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posted February 13, 2015 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by 7ate9:
I think i have some first hand experience in this matter... http://astrotheme.com/chart/ZGRjZGR5BGDlZmV1ZQNjZQRjZQNmAQtkZD.png
Gonna get back to this thread later today when im not busy. I forgot how to attach image directly on the post so there is only that link...
Whoa intense and trippy looking chart! Lots of tight aspects. Even the square between Saturn and Pluto is half a degree orb.  IP: Logged |
7ate9
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posted February 13, 2015 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Whoa intense and trippy looking chart! Lots of tight aspects. Even the square between Saturn and Pluto is half a degree orb.
I wish you could be me for a day just to see what it would be like x). When I started to understand astrology better the Saturn Pluto square explained my tendency to be sad about the state of the cold and loveless world when in reality it was just a reflection of my personal feelings about my personal life. After I realized that things have been going really well and I'm the happiest I have ever been  .
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mianfei
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posted March 02, 2015 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
What about Sag in 1995? Does or am I missing what you mean by "major stellium"? I only ask because I remember this thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/205004.html She has 7 planets in Sag AND a Sag ASC.
I did forget that, sorry!It’s notable that there has been so many seven-planet stellia since the “Great Aquarius Conjunction” – though if I haven’t missed anything (don’t trust me) the next one is not until 2051 in Virgo, followed by 2080 in Aquarius and 2107 in Taurus. That Sagittarius stellium – with the Ascendant – is amazing nonetheless but I must have miscounted the planets. Before 1853 the last seven-planet stellium had been on 11 to 13 December 1651 (before Uranus and Neptune were discovered, though both had been seen) in Sagittarius. what’s notable about this 1651 stellium is that it included the asteroid (4) Vesta, which can reach the same brightness as Uranus, and which was not present in any subsequent stellium. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted March 02, 2015 12:14 PM
This is like Jennifer Love Hewitt's husband Brian Hallisay. Everything from sun to Mars is in Scorpio. I was shocked when I saw his chart.IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows
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posted December 04, 2015 01:59 PM
I'm a Leo ish Libra or atleast I was that way when I was youngerRight now at this current moment I am my own person
I wan to study the progressed chart more 😚 IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted December 04, 2015 03:05 PM
I have seen this but it is rare. It is a hard kind of imbalance for the person, I think------------------
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posted December 04, 2015 10:19 PM
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mianfei
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posted June 07, 2016 10:10 AM
Via a more thorough examination I have found that my earlier post on there existing no case of nine planets in air between the previous Neptune/Pluto opposition of the 1640s and the next one around 2140 is wrong.On the last two days of May 2032, there are indeed nine planets in air signs: — Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn and Uranus in Gemini
— Moon, Jupiter and Pluto in Aquarius
— Neptune in Aries is the sole planet not in an air sign There is and will be, however – I’ve spent today re-checking – most definitely no case of nine planets in water between 1646 and 2140. I’ve been thinking that the difference between the (relatively) large number of cases of nine planets in Earth and the virtual nonexistence (two periods totalling five days) in any of the other three elements may not be perfectly random but may be related to patterns in the elements where conjunctions or trines between outer planets occur. All ten planets in one element, I can conclude, is implausible even under the most favourable outer planet configuration. It’s notable that apart from the 1892 Neptune/Pluto conjunction, all the major conjunctions of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto between 1646 and 2140 occur in Earth – which may reflect the lesser rarity of near-complete dominance of Earth vis-ŕ-vis the other elements in this period. The long-period eighteenth-century Neptune/Pluto waning trine does not differentiate between the elements, but two of the three Uranus/Neptune waning trines (circa 1770, circa 1940) occurred in Earth (the next one around 2112 will occur in Air) as did (most of) the waxing Uranus/Neptune trines circa 1712 and 1883 (I imagine you understand outer planet trines are long-lived with many repeats due to retrograde). It’s notable, though, that several Uranus/Pluto waning trines in Water (circa 1810, 1923, 2065) do not produce a huge Water dominance. IP: Logged |
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