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Topic: Pluto and Life Cycles
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 3745 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 16, 2015 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koho: Read and reread everyone's post and I'll certainly read them all again. It's all so interesting. We won't be experiencing these Pluto phases in our lifetimes so it is great to see them in others. Stawr had a much difference experience. While Pluto attempted to strangle me in my infancy it seems to have been much kinder to Stawr and I wonder why.
It is also important to note Pluto in Capricorn in the 6th shows some initiation in entrepreneurial work. tPluto through 7th - Isolation. Odd. I'm experiencing Saturn in the 7th now and it is isolating so I'm surprised Pluto is showing the same effect. Also, I forgot to note that like Stawr I did see a therapist during my 7th house years. It was mostly as a precaution due to family history and nothing came of it. tPluto in the 8th Aside from the people dying stuff there also seems to be a start of an intense relationship that doesn't seem to last. I imagine these two things - death and intense relationships - is really dependent on what Pluto looks at from your 8th. ----- Anyway! All very interesting. I hope for more! As for Kannon's post - I'm fixed and stubborn and slow on the uptake but I'll definitely read your article!
I wonder if it's because I have Jupiter in Cancer, the family sign. Could that mean I'm kind of lucky(Jupiter) in not experiencing divorced parents? I notice a handful of people with Jupiter in Cancer rx come from broken families. I would love to hear more about this, to see if this could be a possible interpretation for Jupiter in Cancer. Yes, I feel like Pluto and Saturn have a lot in common. I'm a 11 degree Gemini ASC, so I think by next year I'll experience Saturn in my 7th. According to cafe astrology Saturn began squaring my Venus in Pisces today. Leading up to this my almost 3 year relationship fell apart. I haven't reached out to too many friends about it. I got some more closure from a mutual friend yesterday. We agreed that he has more issues than he lets people know. She ended up telling me that he hung out with his ex shortly after dumping me. My friend and I agreed that we thought he was a lot smarter than that. He talked so much **** about her and told me some really messed up things about her. It looks like he wants to go back to his old ways, of being on and off with his ex and hook up with other girls. I on the other hand, know that I need to heal and rebound guys are worse or just as bad as the current guy. It would be nice to hang out with more friends and blow off steam, but I have too much stuff to do for my Saturday class. Maybe in March I can reach out to more friends. My sister, and my best friend have been great support. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 3745 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted February 16, 2015 09:27 AM
It has been great reading everyone's experiences so far.  IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2015 10:38 AM
venus2tinkerbell, your story is amazing!!!Sorry to focus on the smaller details...but I've always talked to trees as well. Though I don't do it out loud anymore. When I was young, there was a sycamore tree out by the street, and I used to peel off its bark to draw on, or to construct miniature playgrounds for the ants...thanking the tree for every piece, and patting the trunk. That tree was a good friend. And sycamores are still my favorites. And I have a book about the Imus Ranch! I love that charity, and the ranch setting is absolutely gorgeous...only problem is...the book I have is a cookbook, and the food is not up to my standards! For what I would feed children with cancer.  But I guess, they are not trying to heal them, just give them a fun time. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2015 10:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: Currently I am 24. Got my heart broken on Saturday. He dumped me, I know it's right but it really hurts. It's so hard to pick up the shattered pieces of myself and keep going with school.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2015 10:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koho: Here's a few themes I noticed; most as we can expect them -
Thanks for compiling that. PS Like you, I almost died at birth...my 8H Pisces moon is on the solstice point of Pluto. Maybe that was a factor. Actually I know it was a factor...bad timing. If I had been born slower and later, this complication would not have happened. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2015 11:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: It has been great reading everyone's experiences so far. 
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 16, 2015 11:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Oops. Sorry, wrong link. I have corrected it and am putting it here: https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/declinations/#pluto
This is EXCELLENT. Thank you so much!! ETA: So I see that my Pluto is at 10.57 N, not parallel or contraparallel to any other planets in my natal chart. This declination does not match any declination in the event charts for either of my parents' deaths (the most Plutonian experiences I've ever had.) However, my husband's Venus: 10.33 N The day and time we got marred: Tr Pluto 10.25 S Tr Saturn 10.06 N IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 18, 2015 01:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Arachne18: Great post Koho, I hadn't bothered to look back at transit Pluto in the houses, until now. The following is on a bit more of a fundamental level (not too sure about my numerology cycles) than yours but I find what you wrote very interesting. I have left out a few things that are probably relevant, however they are a bit personal, but otherwise here is my timeline of events.Transit Pluto in: 2nd house- birth.( Pluto in libra. Virgo on 2nd house cusp). Nothing out of the ordinary that pertains to my birth. 3rd house- libra cusp, schooling years, forming life long friendships. Sibling rivalry. Finished school. 4th house- Scorpio cusp, starting getting interested in astrology. Left home to go to university when t Pluto was right on IC. Came out of my shell, more independent and less dependant on parents. I was the first to leave the nest so was a bit upsetting for my mother. Purchased rental home with sister, whom by now, I became best friends with. After graduating I returned home to work for a family member who subsequently passed. 5th house- Sagittarius cusp, moved away again to do a post grad, came back, met my now husband; funnily enough, an Aries - I have Jupiter in Aries in 9th (sag) house. Brought first home together, got married, had two kids, then sold house and brought second one. 6th house - Capricorn cusp. T Pluto is now in this house (untenanted) and will be for a long time. Since being here I have had a health concern, which turned out ok but in general I have been far more preoccupied with my health and well being than I ever have before. Also within this transit I will be buying into a business that I have been at for over 10 years and am feeling far more entrepreneurial and more more authoritative in the workplace. I am so excited about this new venture and have other transits that I feel have relevance to this opportunity also. Like I said above, I hadn't looked at Pluto in relation to my earlier life. For me now I find transit Pluto pretty relevant to what is/was going on in my life. 
Hi Arachne18,
Thanks for sharing. My Capricorn 6th house is also "untenanted". It looks like a desert. Pluto has been transiting through my Capricorn 5th house. Sagittarius 5th house energy was quite different from Capricorn 5th house energy, but I gradually embraced the lessons and changes. Now as Pluto approaches my Capricorn 6th house I do sense a change. Work and health are heavy on my mind. Very great luck to you in your new venture.
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venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 18, 2015 02:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: venus2tinkerbell, your story is amazing!!!Sorry to focus on the smaller details...but I've always talked to trees as well. Though I don't do it out loud anymore. When I was young, there was a sycamore tree out by the street, and I used to peel off its bark to draw on, or to construct miniature playgrounds for the ants...thanking the tree for every piece, and patting the trunk. That tree was a good friend. And sycamores are still my favorites. And I have a book about the Imus Ranch! I love that charity, and the ranch setting is absolutely gorgeous...only problem is...the book I have is a cookbook, and the food is not up to my standards! For what I would feed children with cancer.  But I guess, they are not trying to heal them, just give them a fun time.
Hey Faith! Life is amazing, right? I am grateful that while I am as fearful as the next guy, whenever I am invited to live , that's a party I always show up to. I would have liked to join you through your 5th house Pluto transit. Did you talk to the great sycamore?  I think it was my Native heritage in me coming to my rescue, giving me a way to cope. When I think back the whole scene was very Native American-esque. The moon would be there sometimes. I was like the chief, solving problems and differences between the trees. these days when I get time alone, in the country, I try to remember to talk to the trees. LOL about Don Imus and Deirdre's cookbook! I have it too. The children's father was/is (?) a vegetarian so I have tons of cookbooks like that. I only ever made the 3 bean meatless chili. Now if you add some meat to that meatless chili you'll have the best chili you ever tasted. You're probably right about the food not being the best for kids with cancer  But yeah! I've always had this homesteader/farmer itch. One year I was determined to build my own log cabin. I bought this guys book http://youtu.be/iYJKd0rkKss lol this is a serious throwback for youtube. 1969 I think (?). My favorite tv show (that I don't watch on tv) is Alaska: The Last Frontier. Needless to say I have a deep love of nature. I find myself having to navigate the more metro lifestyle (technology, fashion, career, blah blah), but for me under a tree is where it's at. Nature has always had a healing effect on me- emotional and psychological. I just settle down when I'm in the country. Anyway, I want to give what I had and experienced to kids. I'm curious (that should be my signature) what are you eating? Edit: in case somewhere else I say that something Gordon Ramsay is doing is my favorite show...I love cooking and off the grid reality tv. off the grid reality tv? Doesn't sound right. Anyway... IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 18, 2015 03:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koho: Venus, that Pluto-Neptune Summer must of been intense and magical and certainly is a time placed in your memory.
When I started this exercise I knew specific dates I wanted to look up. I have never looked them up before. I am really just amazed at how I could look up a date or a couple of dates and see some serious activity in my chart that coincides with the events of that time. For me, the Pluto-Uranus transit is the most significant. 1. because those 4th house experiences really shape who I am. 2. because life before and after the conjunction of Pluto and Uranus are like night and day, and after conjunction marks a new world of understanding being opened up to me. I said earlier that I was a kid so I didn't know much about what was going on in my new environment, but the truth is I see and experience the world through the lenses of "life after the Pluto-Uranus conjunction". And ever since, whenever I have felt the pull of Uranus (not knowing it was Uranus) I have spent only a little time in fear, and then fully embraced the new experience. Uranus is exalted in Scorpio. I just think all of these point are so interesting. I know less about Neptune, the 5th house, and Sagittarius. Descriptions of Neptune sound like stories of misunderstood mystics and hermits. I would never trust anyone to give me their impression or assessment of one of those types of people. I'll take all the information I can get about Neptune and the outer planets, but some things require understanding over knowledge. I can embrace sound knowledge, but the understanding will be my own. I haven't studied Neptune the way I've studied Uranus, but my SN is in my Pisces 8th house. SN Pisces is very much a part of who I am. I just can't settle on the idea of Neptune being about illusions, etc. I am dancing around what I want to say, which is that despite my deep, unfounded love for Neptune, this conjunction was one of the few life experiences I look back on with discomfort. It even makes me feel unhappy. That's not something I say often. Neptune in my 5th house describes beautiful things I know well and relate to, but also problems I have in relationships. This is one of the events of my life that did and still does overwhelm me. It is not one of the wildest times of my life by a long shot, but something about this mix; Pluto Neptune and me just confuses me (hard for me to admit). At the same time that the "fog" around my marriage was being cleared away, I was completely overtaken by my obsession for someone because she looked like something she clearly was not. I wanted her as a man, not a woman. I know the difference because I have no problem appreciating women, but what I like are their feminine qualities. Also, this woman seduced me. I'm not making excuses (I don't feel the need to), I just can't say I have ever been seduced in my life- not before or after this woman. Seduction seems to tie into the whole Pluto-Neptune transit chaos. I had nightmares during this time. I don't usually suffer from nightmares, but for a few months I regularly woke my family up in the middle of the night with my screams. I couldn't remember my dreams or nightmares. I usually remember my dreams when I wake up and then commit them to memory for years. A lot of other strange things happened for about a year or more. It wasn't pleasant, but worse than not pleasant, is living a lie. Thanks for making me think about it. It kind of hurts to think about it, but I guess that means there's something there. Edited (of course) I wanted to add that I read that when there is a Pluto Neptune transit the "native" might be made more weak and vulnerable in order to become strong. This makes sense to me. This helps me to understand how as I was gaining clarity in my relationship with my husband (ex) I could at the same time go completely over the deep end for an illusion- an illusion I knew was an illusion! IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 18, 2015 03:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koho: It is also important to note Pluto in Capricorn in the 6th shows some initiation in entrepreneurial work.
Thanks for this bit of info. It is important to take note of this. We can see that this is already happening for Arachne18. And this seems to be the direction I am being pointed in as well. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 18, 2015 04:00 AM
Sorry for blowing up your thread Koho. I am clearly an on again off again insomniac. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 18, 2015 12:08 PM
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venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 19, 2015 01:49 AM
Faith, my darling. I am glad you mentioned not going off topic, because I was really just about to. Koho has such a great thread here. I will restrain myself, but you're definitely my sister from another mother. IP: Logged |
Koho Knowflake Posts: 628 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 19, 2015 07:16 AM
No it's ok; go nuts and talk about anything. I'd join in the discussion but work is giving me no free time right now IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 19, 2015 05:16 PM
Awww Thanks Koho I don't know, I see you as a very down to business kind of guy, so the fact that you would let me and Faith play on your thread is really nice. Anyway, I like it here. I don't want to move- don't want to change. a couple weeks ago I was all over the place posting nonsense everywhere- lol. This week, I'm like, 'well, if I don't have anything to say related to koho's thread, I don't much feel like saying anything'- lol. 2 weeks ago Gemini, this week Cancer?As it turns out, looks like I won't be posting anywhere for a bit. Want to hear my long boring story? Do! It'll be the last one for a bit. So I scheduled Timewarner to come out and upgrade my internet service. Like an idiot, I also schedule disconnect of my current service with Verizon. You know where this is going. Verizon is on schedule. TW is not. Actually I think the technician snuck up on to my porch, put his 'I was here' ticket on my door, drove away, and then called me, saying, "I knocked and no one answered". I spent 4 hours on the phone today fighting, flirting, begging, crying, and the best I could do was an appointment almost 2 weeks out. This is kind of a nightmare, as I'm a telecommuter. I basically have to take a vacation from work...in the middle of Feb... Watch me tie my story to this thread. So at first I was feeling like absolute utter complete **** , which isn't much different from how I usually feel about work these days. The way I used to think is that I just wanted a good paying job that I could bend and shape to my lifestyle as a mother, homeschooler, humanitarian. I wanted to make money, but I didn't want it to get in the way of my real life. But for the last year, and more so in the last 3 months, I have been feeling so unfulfilled with my work. It's not enough that it supports my lifestyle as a separate entity. I want it to be part of my life. I want it to be one of my passions, and forms of self expression. I am so hungry for something fulfilling. Something I can throw my whole self into and obsess over. I guess I want work to be my new man- lol. I think this is me feeling the "vapors" of my approaching Pluto transit in 6th house Capricorn. If my calculations are right (I'm lucky if they are), Pluto doesn't touch my 6th house cusp for 2 years. Is it possible that I would be feeling it now? Or I wonder if my new focus on my Virgo NN conjunct Saturn has something to do with it. Anyway, I am now seeing this forced vacation as an opportunity to re-center, and rethink where I am. I never take a day off. I work 7 days a week. Granted sometimes I only work 3 hours a day, but I NEVER unplug. Or I haven't in years. It's really impossible for me to evaluate what is going on in my life without unplugging. And I can't bring my new passion to me without taking some time out to think about it. So this nightmare has turned out to be a blessing, and that lazy technician turned out to be a guardian angel... I really shouldn't have slandered him every chance I got this afternoon. Hear that Faith? I'm going to be missing you for a while btw, I LOVE TED Talks too! I make my children watch one speech or listen to one NPR story a day. I'll watch that speech when I get back. Actually I can watch it on my phone, but I won't get back to you about it right away, because one thing I can't stand is posting from my phone. Anyway, take care you guys. Thanks again for this thread Koho. It was a huge eye opener. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17905 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 20, 2015 09:34 AM
quote: Hear that Faith? I'm going to be missing you for a while
Hear you. Hope you are making the best of this blessing in disguise. Will talk to you later! IP: Logged |
SaturnFan Knowflake Posts: 689 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted February 21, 2015 04:16 AM
Does anyone else have any personal Pluto-transit stories to share? It'd be great to see other examples!IP: Logged |
Venusincap89 Knowflake Posts: 1014 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 21, 2015 04:31 AM
I have retrograde jupiter in cancer in 12th house. I do come from a family that is beyond brokenBut at the same time, my retrograde jupiter in cancer saves my ass last minute all the time Some say this placement is like mixed blessings but I personally really like it xD
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