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babybull82
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posted February 26, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea I hate to do this, but this placement (Gemini moon) is my least favorite..if ONLY because the ones close to me know how to push my buttons and **** me off to the high heavens. Also I don't know if I just have the uncanny ability to pull this out of them, but they say some of the most f'ed up crap to me. While arguing I'll have to end up screaming at the top of my lungs to shut up because (the ones I know) just run off at the mouth..

But yea..they're loyal

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posted February 26, 2015 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by babybull82:
Yea I hate to do this, but this placement (Gemini moon) is my least favorite..if ONLY because the ones close to me know how to push my buttons and **** me off to the high heavens. Also I don't know if I just have the uncanny ability to pull this out of them, but they say some of the most f'ed up crap to me. While arguing I'll have to end up screaming at the top of my lungs to shut up because (the ones I know) just run off at the mouth..

But yea..they're loyal


Yeah, please don't do that. I just wanted it to be more positive.

My Pisces moon sister did that to me. I try to argue fairly, and I get **** on. So... and that happens on "spiritual" message boards.

I will also continue to defend a friend that some like to tout as a troublemaker.

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posted February 26, 2015 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, please don't do that. I just wanted it to be more positive.

My Pisces moon sister did that to me. I try to argue fairly, and I get **** on. So... and that happens on "spiritual" message boards.

I will also continue to defend a friend that some like to tout as a troublemaker.


Oh I understand, I wasn't trying to make the thread go left, I was just responding to what someone posted a little before mine about the placement. Honestly it just because our moons square, so emotionally they don't get me and I don't get them. But other than that I get along fairly well with them and we always have the most interesting conversations.

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posted February 26, 2015 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't mean to be a killjoy. My sense of humour is just lacking right now. I'm not feeling angry, just very tired.

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posted February 26, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami -
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Gemini can be loyal but they, usually, have to be told about what happened etc

They need to understand the situation before they will be on your side.


I know what you mean. But this always happens to me with Libra-influence, mainly Sun/Moon/Mercury in Libra --- not with Gemini.
I really like Libras and I have a good relationship with them, but I could never expect them to be completely on my side, because they are always weighing both sides of everything.

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To me, if I am in trouble and I have to EXPLAIN, that person is not loyal.

Hi Ami,

We'll never be perfect, but I believe in personal growth, and self examination. When I am in trouble I need to be able to tell my family and friends what happened. I need them to listen objectively and to tell me if I was wrong. If they don't tell me the truth they aren't helping me to achieve my life purpose, which is to do the best I can.

If they tell me I was wrong, or that I need to apologize for my actions they are not judging me or taking their love away from me. They are simply not allowing me to live in self denial.

With the exception of my mother (and there's nothing I can do about her), there are no people in my life that don't hold me accountable for my actions. These people are my friends for the very purpose of helping me to achieve my life goal. I love and respect these people. They love and respect me. But the one thing we never do for each other is sweep things under the rug.

If loyalty means I won't question your behavior and actions then I am not loyal.

But if I love you and I have to tell you you're wrong, you will not lose my love. My honesty is my love. And I need honest love too.

Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo

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posted February 26, 2015 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes when you stand up for people, you stand up for the wrong person and even make a fool of yourself.

I have done that many times due to an misjudgement of someone but I am not really sorry I stood up for someone because I was using the best info I had at the time.

I try to be more discerning of people now and most likely, would not do it again lol

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posted February 26, 2015 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean that, Venus. If I am attacked and a friend won't stand up for me, he is not a friend.

I am a Cancer Moon and Mars and those are my values.

No one has to agree with me but no one will be CLOSE to me who doesn't

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posted February 26, 2015 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After I'd posted about not experiencing much loyalty from others, I remembered a Leo friend. Great guy, in his twenties, so too young for me - he had my back on something. He's such a sweetheart.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Hi Ami,

We'll never be perfect, but I believe in personal growth, and self examination. When I am in trouble I need to be able to tell my family and friends what happened. I need them to listen objectively and to tell me if I was wrong. If they don't tell me the truth they aren't helping me to achieve my life purpose, which is to do the best I can.

If they tell me I was wrong, or that I need to apologize for my actions they are not judging me or taking their love away from me. They are simply not allowing me to live in self denial.

With the exception of my mother (and there's nothing I can do about her), there are no people in my life that don't hold me accountable for my actions. These people are my friends for the very purpose of helping me to achieve my life goal. I love and respect these people. They love and respect me. But the one thing we never do for each other is sweep things under the rug.

If loyalty means I won't question your behavior and actions then I am not loyal.

But if I love you and I have to tell you you're wrong, you will not lose my love. My honesty is my love. And I need honest love too.

Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo


Perfect!
I agree.
Don't just walk beside me, pull me, push me, when I'm straying off to the wrong path. In return, I'll do the same, but not without love driving the whole thing.

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I agree! I've always thought Gemini Mooners are very loyal as friends and also as lovers.

There are a couple of Gemini Moon men I know, who have a slight "wondering eye" happening - but it's still pretty uncommon for this placement to *actually* cheat.
I'd say they would be in the top four most faithful placements (in my experience).

It might be because Gemini is a pretty non-physical sign. So Moon in Gemini is primarily interested in having a strong intellectual connection with their partner. This is what makes their heart skip a beat.
When they have that connection - they are not easily tempted by others.


You know us!
I agree with this for sure.

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posted February 26, 2015 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This goes down to ones values.

Plutonians are known to be loyal and protective of their pack but try to tell them to stand by your side when you are BS-ing

No one decides to be not loyal in a conscious way, but we all have different threshold and jupiter and Mercury influences can make a person want to consider "different perspectives" it have a happy go lucky attitude.

I have also noticed cancerians are not loyal especially if it requires confrontation and standing up for principle. At least in my experiences they are a mixed bag

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posted February 27, 2015 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the moral of the story here is...you can't look at one sign and say--oh this person isn't loyal.

At the end of the day, there are people that I meet that I will feel an undying commitment too...and there are others that I meet that I have a more lukewarm relationship with...it's all in the synastry and progressed synastry of a person.

In my opinion.

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:

Don't just walk beside me, pull me, push me, when I'm straying off to the wrong path. In return, I'll do the same, but not without love driving the whole thing.

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posted February 27, 2015 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This goes down to ones values.

Totally. It is values and some people have different values. That is all there is to it

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posted February 28, 2015 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What always puzzles me is how Aquarius gets a bad rap while nothing much is said about gemini and libra. People rail about aquarius being this unloving sign that is afraid of commitment and so on and so forth. Meanwhile, geminis and libras are seen as fun and party animals and the other fixed signs (leo, scorpio,and taurus) are applauded for their intense loyalty. Nobody really gives aquarius any of the positive recognition they give to the other air or fixed signs. Aquarius is kind of put out on an island by itself in a sense, which I think is a shame. It's like people stick a mish mash of the negative air sign qualities (flighty, unemotional) and the negative fixed sign qualities (stubborn, inflexible) to the sign without giving it credit for it's good qualities. As a fixed sign Aquarius is just as loyal as any of the other fixed signs and has more depth than their fellow air signs. Now why can't people see that?

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posted February 28, 2015 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What always puzzles me is how Aquarius gets a bad rap while nothing much is said about gemini and libra. People rail about aquarius being this unloving sign that is afraid of commitment and so on and so forth. Meanwhile, geminis and libras are seen as fun and party animals and the other fixed signs (leo, scorpio,and taurus) are applauded for their intense loyalty. Nobody really gives aquarius any of the positive recognition they give to the other air or fixed signs. Aquarius is kind of put out on an island by itself in a sense, which I think is a shame. It's like people stick a mish mash of the negative air sign qualities (flighty, unemotional) and the negative fixed sign qualities (stubborn, inflexible) to the sign without giving it credit for it's good qualities. As a fixed sign Aquarius is just as loyal as any of the other fixed signs and has more depth than their fellow air signs. Now why can't people see that?

Yea I see what you mean and I don't get it either because I love Aquas, for me they've been one of THE most loyal friends I've ever had. I dated an Aqua for a yr like over 10yrs ago & we are still good friends until this day & I know I could call him up for anything and he'd still have my back. I don't find them to be unloving at all. They just have their own quirky way of showing they care. I like how detached they can be sometimes because they know instinctively when to give me space. If it's any consolation, you got an Aqua fan for life over here

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posted February 28, 2015 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think of you encounter a few REALLY creepy people from a sign, you begin to really dislike that sign.

Aqua Sun women have been that from what I have experienced, personally.


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posted February 28, 2015 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yea I see what you mean and I don't get it either because I love Aquas, for me they've been one of THE most loyal friends I've ever had. I dated an Aqua for a yr like over 10yrs ago & we are still good friends until this day & I know I could call him up for anything and he'd still have my back. I don't find them to be unloving at all. They just have their own quirky way of showing they care. I like how detached they can be sometimes because they know instinctively when to give me space. If it's any consolation, you got an Aqua fan for life over here

What really puzzles me is how people say aquas are aloof and standoffish. That may be true at times, but geminis and libras are just as bad. However, you almost never hear people describing geminis and libras in such terms, it's always aquarius that gets the bad rap. All air signs need space and can disappear from time to time. The only thing that makes aquarius different is we will always come back. You don't have that guarantee with the other air signs. With them there's a very good chance that they have spaced out for good. I've had plenty of experience with libras and geminis (as friends and more than friends) and I've known other aquas. In my experience there is no contest... Aquas are much more loyal than the other air signs. In fact, when I hear someone railing against aquas I often wonder if they are getting aquarius confused with libra or gemini.

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posted July 20, 2018 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard lot of bad of Gemini in web.
Liars, cheaters etc bla bla bla...
May be its Pop Astrology ?

Happy to see this thread where I see the word 'Loyal' for Gemini.
I have Venus and Moon conjunction(0° 15' orb) in Gemini 2nd House.
Is Loyal word count for only 5th,7th or 11th house placement ? AFAIK those houses for love, romance, marriage etc.

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posted July 21, 2018 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon and Venus in Gemini loyal? Lol I doubt it.

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posted July 21, 2018 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon and Venus in Gemini loyal? Lol I doubt it.

Why ?
I'm 36 Single Male.
Still no relationship in my life yet.
Can you believe this ?
If this can happen to me then why not Moon+Venus Loyal ?
May be other planets in my chart reason for that.
Check my chart and share your thoughts if you don't mind...


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posted July 21, 2018 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It all boils down to what the definition of loyalty really is. You will get different answers depending of which "sign" you're asking.

For example a challenged Scorpio would eventually find any Moon/Venus-combination disloyal.

But for example, answer this:

Are a person disloyal if he/she prefers to read a book instead of cooking you a meal?

Are a person disloyal if he/she speaks to other men/women than you and might even find them interesting and/or fascinating?

Are a person disloyal if they discover that nothing about the religion you shared actually speaks to them anymore, and is thinking of leaving it?

Are a person disloyal if they are not supporting you after your scheming against some poor person that you didn't like?

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posted July 21, 2018 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.
Very good points.
It's person's point of view, perspective.

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posted July 21, 2018 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Why ?
I'm 36 Single Male.
Still no relationship in my life yet.
Can you believe this ?
If this can happen to me then why not Moon+Venus Loyal ?
May be other planets in my chart reason for that.
Check my chart and share your thoughts if you don't mind...


Don't worry. They just fear what they cant understand It's a common human trait.

As others have pointed out you will find your love in the end and i'm sure you will be a very loyal and loving husband.

I also have Moon and Venus here, and i know we are as much loyal as anyone else.

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