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ChildofVenus
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posted July 21, 2018 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Don't worry. They just fear what they cant understand It's a common human trait.

As others have pointed out you will find your love in the end and i'm sure you will be a very loyal and loving husband.

I also have Moon and Venus here, and i know we are as much loyal as anyone else.


Fear what they can't understand? I live with two Gemini sun's and I know my father hasn't been loyal to my mother he also has Venus in Gemini. So you don't know what you are talking about sorry. Men with Venus in Gemini are into things like threesome's etc. And I know this to be a fact I've lived it for years. Hell I've even had a Gemini with this placement ask me if I would be involved in a threesome with him and someone else. So please don't tell me I don't understand because I have a clear understanding.

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posted July 21, 2018 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Why ?
I'm 36 Single Male.
Still no relationship in my life yet.
Can you believe this ?
If this can happen to me then why not Moon+Venus Loyal ?
May be other planets in my chart reason for that.
Check my chart and share your thoughts if you don't mind...


I only speak from experience my father is a Gemini and he's never been loyal to my mother. And I know people who have Venus and Moon in Gemini and they aren't loyal either. But you are probably right about there being something else in your chart that makes you loyal. It's not just the men though I know a woman who has Venus in Gemini. And she talks about how she has more than one person she's involved with.

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posted July 21, 2018 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Fear what they can't understand? I live with two Gemini sun's and I know my father hasn't been loyal to my mother he also has Venus in Gemini. So you don't know what you are talking about sorry. Men with Venus in Gemini are into things like threesome's etc. And I know this to be a fact I've lived it for years. Hell I've even had a Gemini with this placement ask me if I would be involved in a threesome with him and someone else. So please don't tell me I don't understand because I have a clear understanding.

I'm sorry your father has been unfaithful to your mother.

I know for a fact several unfaithful persons without any Gemini placements at all.
One is a Scorpio sun, Virgo moon and Venus in Capricorn. Shouldn't that be a textbook example of a loyal person?

But don't judge no dogs by the color of their fur!

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posted July 21, 2018 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I'm sorry your father has been unfaithful to your mother.

I have slept with married women and none of them have any Gemini placements at all.
One is a Scorpio sun, Virgo moon and Venus in Capricorn. Shouldn't that be a textbook example of a loyal person?
(yes, yes i guess karma will have its way with me i due time)

But don't judge no dogs by the color of their fur!



Well my mother has Moon in Virgo and she has always been loyal to my father. So what does that mean?

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posted July 21, 2018 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

Well my mother has Moon in Virgo and she has always been loyal to my father. So what does that mean?

That you can not assume anything about a person just by looking at some placements in their birth chart?

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posted July 21, 2018 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Fear what they can't understand? I live with two Gemini sun's and I know my father hasn't been loyal to my mother he also has Venus in Gemini. So you don't know what you are talking about sorry. Men with Venus in Gemini are into things like threesome's etc. And I know this to be a fact I've lived it for years. Hell I've even had a Gemini with this placement ask me if I would be involved in a threesome with him and someone else. So please don't tell me I don't understand because I have a clear understanding.

You've just decided that we can't be loyal, based on that? I don't live in the way you describe, so maybe don't discount others' person experiences, if you don't want them to do the same to you?

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posted July 21, 2018 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
But you are probably right about there being something else in your chart that makes you loyal. .

No. Gemini moon and Venus can be loyal, because they are. Simple as that.

This is what puts me off astrology. So many assumptions about people based on this kind of thing, and then you don't listen when people tell you who they are. I've been deceived by Taureans with moon in Taurus. Supposedly so loyal and honest. nope. they were great liars, and felt good about it as long as you didn't find out.

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posted July 21, 2018 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No. Gemini moon and Venus can be loyal, because they are. Simple as that.

This is what puts me off astrology. So many assumptions about people based on this kind of thing, and then you don't listen when people tell you who they are. I've been deceived by Taureans with moon in Taurus. Supposedly so loyal and honest. nope. they were great liars, and felt good about it as long as you didn't find out.



I'm not assuming anything did you not read where I've stated that I actually know people with these placements? How can I assume something that has actually happened? I'm not making things up the things I've said have actually happened to me. This is not something I read on the internet and decided to post on here. I know people in real life who have these placements. And they have been proven to be cheaters even my own father. So how is that an assumption? It's not because it's a fact. And no I'm not only basing it on one person with this placement. I know several people who have Venus in Gemini and they are not loyal. They often have multiple lovers or participate in threesomes I have no reason to lie. My father has Moon in Cancer, Mercury in Gemini, Mars in Aries and Venus in Gemini and cheated on my mother and had a threesome this is a fact. A guy who has Venus in Gemini asked me to participate in a threesome with them. A Taurus woman I know with Venus in Gemini talks about having multiple partners. All these things are facts which is why I say people with these placements are not loyal to one person. And that's a known fact for Gemini's in general anyway.
So it puts me off when people act like they don't know how Gemini's are. I have lived with two of them my entire life so I have some idea. My mother has Moon in Virgo, Mars in Cancer, Venus in Taurus and Mercury in Gemini. She hasn't cheated on my father. That's the difference she doesn't have the dreaded Venus in Gemini like my father. And thanks to him I will never trust a Gemini man especially ones with Venus in Gemini.

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posted July 22, 2018 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in gemini conjunct mercury here - i can be two faced for some things but when we are talking about serious stuff i am loyal

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posted July 22, 2018 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very true I get along extremely well with scorpio risers, I have known quite a few and am seeing one right now. My best friend from high school, this girl I was friends with and very fond of...etc

Is true that some libras can be more argumentative than aries but those libras often have mars in aspect to uranus or moon aspect mars ect...but yes I don't think aries likes conflict or looks for conflict but they will not back away if you try them, sometimes they will just stop talking to you instead of clearing the air.

Venus in gemini can be flaky and have difficulty committing and settleling down although this should not be generalized to everyone and the whole chart must be looked at, yes the fact you have it in the 8th trine pluto definitely changes that.

Taurus are often a bit slow unless they have venus in aries or something like that. Slow DOES NOT MEAN STUPID though.

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posted July 22, 2018 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People always generalize Taurus as being slow though. Whatever that means at least we are dependable people.

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posted July 22, 2018 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^Well Taurus is hot, very sensual sign! My lover has mars in Taurus, I love it.

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posted July 22, 2018 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also a loyal Gemini Moon. The friends that I have, I've had for years. I've seen them through their ups and downs, and seen every side of their personality that I possibly could. Our Moon sign is probably more capable than others at letting things slide, forgetting the bad and focusing on the present. My friends also often use me as a sounding board, knowing full and well that what they tell me stays between us. What they don't know is that I'll probably forget whatever secrets are imbedded in our conversation as soon as they tell me. But at least their secret is safe!

As far as stereotypes...I'm very messy. I don't like cleaning or doing household chores. I laughed when my Cancer friend told me she had a central vacuum in her house and that she cleaned nearly every day. I do like to cook, and I'm very good at it but I don't like the mess afterwards. I am very organized when it comes to my job - my notes are meticulous, I always know where everything is, and I like for things to be a certain way around me. But outside of work, I'm kind of a mess.

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posted July 22, 2018 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kirki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think loyalty has to do with astrology ,but its about quality of character and values.I have venus and mercury in gemini,3 planets in 3rd house ,asc sagittarius and im loyal simply cause i respect my partner.I feel that if i cheat and lie to my partner i steal his freedom to choose how he wants to live ,and i dont have that right.Cheating is common and it happens often but it doesnt mean is fair or right.If someone cheats his /her partner ,he can cheat anyone in general.

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posted July 22, 2018 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^^Well Taurus is hot, very sensual sign! My lover has mars in Taurus, I love it.

Yeah but what does slow mean? I'm a Taurus Sun with Mercury in Aries and Mars in Gemini and I don't think I'm slow.

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posted July 22, 2018 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini moon is not an inherently loyal placement. It's just not. If it were, it wouldn't be staying true to Gemini's exhaustive need to bounce around from one thing to the next. This does not mean it doesnt have great qualities. It's simply a heart that cant be tied down. It wants to learn and grow and expand in every direction. This person doesnt like conflict. They dont like deep convos, meaning when there is a problem, they dont have it in them to talk things through. They will be looking for the nearest exit.

Now you take Gemini moon and put it in the 4th house. Then we have a completely different energy. Let's say you have a stellium in the 4th but all Gem placements. Now all those qualities about learning and growing exists within the home/family realm and can be perceived as loyal because they are so family focused.

What I'm saying is, you could never tell me a Gemini moon in the 3rd house without any aspects except maybe to Mercury is loyal. You just wouldn't be able to claim this. And same goes for whatever reason you think Taurus can be fast moving. There is something else going on in the chart. That's what makes astrology so multi-layered and fascinating. It's why no one person is the same.

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posted July 22, 2018 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gemini moon is not an inherently loyal placement. It's just not. If it were, it wouldn't be staying true to Gemini's exhaustive need to bounce around from one thing to the next. This does not mean it doesnt have great qualities. It's simply a heart that cant be tied down. It wants to learn and grow and expand in every direction. This person doesnt like conflict. They dont like deep convos, meaning when there is a problem, they dont have it in them to talk things through. They will be looking for the nearest exit.

Now you take Gemini moon and put it in the 4th house. Then we have a completely different energy. Let's say you have a stellium in the 4th but all Gem placements. Now all those qualities about learning and growing exists within the home/family realm and can be perceived as loyal because they are so family focused.

What I'm saying is, you could never tell me a Gemini moon in the 3rd house without any aspects except maybe to Mercury is loyal. You just wouldn't be able to claim this. And same goes for whatever reason you think Taurus can be fast moving. There is something else going on in the chart. That's what makes astrology so multi-layered and fascinating. It's why no one person is the same.


But why do people think Taurus is slow? We aren't mentally ill or impaired. We just like to take our time with things. I don't think that makes us slow. We like to make sure we are making the right decisions. I don't see that as a bad thing. But the Sun sign isn't about actions it's Mars. So perhaps maybe someone with an earth Mars might be slow.

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posted July 22, 2018 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But why do people think Taurus is slow? We aren't mentally ill or impaired. We just like to take our time with things. I don't think that makes us slow. We like to make sure we are making the right decisions. I don't see that as a bad thing. But the Sun sign isn't about actions it's Mars. So perhaps maybe someone with an earth Mars might be slow.

Where did you get the idea that Taurus is mentally ill? I dont think anyone was implying that here.

Taurus is a fixed sign. They are slow to act and when they have their mind made up, they plant their feet into the ground. Ex: Taurus Venus takes their time falling in love. Once they are in love, those feelings are strong and lasting.

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posted July 22, 2018 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has Moon in Gemini. Her only marriage has been to my dad, and they're still together. Going strong for 22 years.

I have Venus in Gemini. I've never cheated, and I tend to take relationships beyond the road that's been laid out for them. I'll hold on, but that could be more attributed to my Sun in Leo.

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posted July 22, 2018 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nigemoonman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mam has Sun, Moon, Mars, Chiron, Orcus, and Ceres all in Gemini. Her Moon and mars are in a close conjunction.

Very loyal and I've been told that after a few boyfriends when young (no more than kissing), met my Dad and they stayed together for 58 years until he died in 2012. She is now 84 and would never want to meet anyone else as he was her man.

My Gran also had Gemini moon and stayed very loyal to my Grandfather for 56 years until he died (she went on to live until 98 yrs old).

My brother also has a Gemini moon and is loyal (very honest, probably too honest). I do find that when the moon goes into Gemini every month, they both get very lively and a bit argumentative. My mam gets very energetic for the Gemini moon days and does three times her normal housework for them days.

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It is probably the mars conjunct Gemini in her chart but every month, like clockwork, I witness her energy and verbal energy increase.

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posted July 22, 2018 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex has Moon and Venus in Gemini. Aries sun and Mercury/Mars in Taurus.

His loyalty is not consistent. He may say he is loyal at this moment, then changes his mind once he meets/talks to another interesting person. It's on and off, like, you really deal with two persons at the same time. When you are with him, he is loyal, but when you are not around, he can easily distracted and prob may forget about your existence.

He is exactly a two different people in front of the door and behind the door. For example, all of my friends think he is more loyal than me as he shows them he puts attention on me in every level while I am more shy to show it in front of other people, he also likes the attention to our relationship while I don't like people put the spot light to my relationship. He tells other people our problems while I don't, so a lot of people can easily on his side than me who don't tell them anything as I don't like attracting more drama involving more people (only 1 or 2 trusted people I tell to).

In private is a total different story, he is really mean, mentally connected but emotionally disconnected, always expects you to stimulate him mentally through conversation about new issues/what's happened around the world/other people otherwise you can sense his immediate loose interest (I mean, sometimes some people need not to always talk about it, some people need to talk about the deeper issues and if you dislike gossip it makes him cringed on you and won't hold longer interaction), only can hold his presence with you for like 2 hours the longest (especially if you watch tv/movie together or going out dinner) and other 22 hours (if not sleep ) with his phone or social media interacting to other people. Sometimes I feel like he isn't fully present, it's like, he has more consistency of loyalty to his friends than in a relationship.

My ex cheats on me and I find out through the constant weird dreams I have. I can see his nervousness when I tell him my weird constant dreams then from there I go to investigate. The ugly truth is coming up and you may think those moon and venus in Gemini aren't capable of physical abuse but he is.

My husband has Sun in Gemini and Venus in Gemini. The thing that I notice with venus in Gemini is they are nicer to the opposite sex and may even very flirty outside of the relationship and meaner to their spouse and less flirty once in a relationship (maybe they don't see this, but it is the truth). If you have high sense, you can feel their inconsistency whether they admit it or not.

Also, it's true that they need you to tell them what's wrong if you think it is wrong. Then watch, they have this two possible scenarios among two others: 1. If they care about you at the moment, either they take it seriously and try to fix it OR they know now what's to hide or not to hide; 2. If they don't care about you at the moment (they are angry or not in the mood), either they don't listen at all or they try to blame you about it. They are very good with words and excuses, so... don't forget about their other evil twin.

One thing I've learned dealing with Gemini influence people: don't expect anything such as full faithfulness in a relationship. When you expect it, they run. When you least expect it, they stay. Maybe they are more capable of loyalty in a friendship basis, idk, I personally never tell private matters to Gemini or Libra friends, although those two signs are my sister sign in the air family, I just know. They are good friends, but I don't know if I can trust considering the consistency and fixation.

This is my experience with them. If I have already found the loyal one for a long period of time, I'll tell the experience knowing them..

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posted July 23, 2018 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My mom has Moon in Gemini. Her only marriage has been to my dad, and they're still together. Going strong for 22 years.

I have Venus in Gemini. I've never cheated, and I tend to take relationships beyond the road that's been laid out for them. I'll hold on, but that could be more attributed to my Sun in Leo.


In that case I highly doubt that Venus rules your DC. What does Venus rule in your chart and what house does it fall in?

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posted July 23, 2018 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umm I know this is a thread about unloyal gemini. But, I had a man with Venus, mars, Saturn, Neptune, almost all his planets in cap, lie and cheat me.so disloyalty is not a gemini thing it is a human thing.

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posted July 24, 2018 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Free Leon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In that case I highly doubt that Venus rules your DC. What does Venus rule in your chart and what house does it fall in?

I have Aries Ascendant, so Venus is in my 3rd House, and it rules over my 2nd and 7th House

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posted July 24, 2018 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its definitely human choices. It's not the Astrology.

I'm a decisive, loyal Libra with Sagittarius moon. Don't believe all of the astrology you hear.
#teamvedic

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