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AscTaurus
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posted March 08, 2015 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a Pluto in 7th house native I for cannot forgive cheating!! That is a deal breaker.Sorry.

There is something about Pluto in 7th that makes it nearly impossible to accept slights and rebuffs in a relationship setting. Because you are always looking for intimacy.

So when that trust is broken, I feel that it just can't be mended and the relationship starts to slowly fade out.

I didn't realize just how intense I respond to infidelity until my last relationship.

I had heard rumours and murmurs of something happening with my ex and a another guy one time when we started dating. And at 1st I was quick to ignore it because I am not one to react to hearsay.

But as the evidence started to mount, I grew more and more resentful.I started to feel that perhaps I am the one who was being naive and I questioned them flat out on whether they cheated?

Of-course my ex was quick to deny all that was being said. But I just found it hard to ignore it and ended up calling it quits with them.

How do you guys feel about infidelity? Would you forgive and under which circumstances(if any)?

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posted March 08, 2015 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure how I feel about cheating...

In my past I have surrendered to the charms of someone whose relationship status I was afraid to question.

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AscTaurus
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posted March 08, 2015 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I'm not sure how I feel about cheating...

In my past I have surrendered to the charms of someone whose relationship status I was afraid to question.


Its tempting to do that because, ironically enough, someone's attraction factor goes up tenfold the minute they are involved with someone else.


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theunknown
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posted March 08, 2015 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's very similar to scorpio venus

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posted March 08, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th is a partner house.
What you attract.

You would attract plutonian TYPES.
Just like mine is Aries. I don't even attract many Aries or mars dominant, but extroverted aggressive/assertive types.

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posted March 08, 2015 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
It's very similar to scorpio venus

How so? Other than the 7th being ruled by Libra which is than ruled by Venus. An 8th house Venus would be much more similar. Pluto in the 7th is totally different from Scorpio Venus. It fixates Plutos attributes on partnership itself.

Here's a quote from my favorite site on Pluto in 7th

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Pluto is positioned in the seventh house producing attitudes that may make partnerships deep and complex arrangements. It is likely that your life will be drastically altered by marriage or other personal relationships. Your partner is shown by this placement to be especially strong-willed, and there can be some major tests of wills in this relationship.

In regards to the question, I don't put up with infidelity. I've a 1st house Scorpio Venus and just can't do it. Cheating is the biggest betrayl to me. Trust is huge and not something that's handed out lightly from me. It would change the entire course of the relationship that's for sure. I'd then make my trust even stricter, harder for people to attain. Without my trust or loyalty there's no point in the relationship.

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posted March 08, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to concur with the description of Pluto in 7th, but I haven't had any "life altering" relationship with the said power struggles and psychological games as yet.

But I do think that marriage can really transform me. But then again,doesn't marriage transform everyone?

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posted March 08, 2015 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The possessiveness is very similar. Obviously it's not exactly the same but pluto in 7th ppl tend to think of others as very powerful that they take a long time to approach someone (might be my Taurys ASC speaking here) but there an article about dating someone with pluto in 7th.

The exoressions are not that different from scorpio venus, except Id say that depending on your venus, it might not be as deep as a ViS.
But pluto in 7th natives want a soul union with their partner....

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posted March 09, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
In regards to the question, I don't put up with infidelity. I've a 1st house Scorpio Venus and just can't do it. Cheating is the biggest betrayal to me.

How so? You answered it yourself. Same as Pluto in the 7H and Venus in major aspect to Pluto.

Pluto in the 7H and Venus-Pluto are also prone to sexual/love triangles.

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posted March 09, 2015 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't subscribe to the notion that fidelity is an entitlement in relationship, so I don't share what appears to be a broad consensus among mostly women that infidelity is inherently "wrong" under any and all circumstances. I believe fidelity is something that needs to be freely given, not demanded and if it is a demand, then that's going to lead to resentment.

It seems to me that the judgment around infidelity boils down to possessiveness that's covered over by concepts about right and wrong, probably having orthodox religious origins.

I think as long as partners are open and honest about who they're with outside of their relationship, that's not cheating.

It's important to know oneself and what works and what doesn't. But, not everyone is monogamous by nature and I don't feel they should be judged for that.

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posted March 09, 2015 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some are monogamous and they shouldn't be judged for that either.

Neither viewpoint truly understands the other. Accept that, have your personal relationships the way you want them with a partner(s) that accepts the way you are and move on from this.

It seems like the smartest move to me.
I've seen these things faaar too many times. No one ever moves an inch or reaches an "agree to disagree" point.

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posted March 09, 2015 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peony:
How so? You answered it yourself. Same as Pluto in the 7H and Venus in major aspect to Pluto.

Pluto in the 7H and Venus-Pluto are also prone to sexual/love triangles.


What?... O_o

I answered the OPs question regarding how I felt about cheating. What are you talking about? Lol! Did you read everything fully?

The unknown's response about a 7th house Pluto being similar to a Venus in Scorpio was incorrect. I understand how she got it but doesn't work that way. In her logic that's like saying a person with Pluto in the 2nd (in which I have) is similar to a Venus in Tarurus. Not in the slightest. The Planet would act like the house in which it sits in. Pluto in the 7th would act like Pluto in the 7th. The 7th is the house of parterships, relationships, other people. The 8th, in which Scorpio is ruled, is not.

So many here fail to realize that Scorpio is ruled by two planets not just one. You can't have spaghetti without the pasta or sauce.

Just because someone has Pluto aspecting their Venus or what have you doesn't mean that person is automatically similar to Scorpio LOL. If anything that person would be more similar to Pluto not Scorpio...

The planet, sign, house and aspect all work together. They individualize.

Aren't all 12 prone to "sexual/love triangles"? Absolutely, so what point are you trying to conclude? All 12 want love and want it in different ways, we all know this. That's like saying all apples are red knowing darn well there are many different shades of reds and greens.

Agree to disagree, peony. I saw your indirect response to my post and I won't waste either of our time responding to it. Good day.

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posted March 09, 2015 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Some are monogamous and they shouldn't be judged for that either.

It seems like the smartest move to me.
I've seen these things faaar too many times. No one ever moves an inch or reaches an "agree to disagree" point.


Hi DeepFreeze, no, of course not. No one should. Perhaps it will help to clarify. What I had in mind when I made the comment was communities based on non-monogamous lifestyles. In the U.S., there is a cultural bias against these communities, which I believe is generated by religious orthodoxy and reinforced or enforced by law. People who practice polygamy or polyamory fear their children will be taken away if they are discovered, although I don't know what the law prescribes in these cases.

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posted March 09, 2015 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
There is something about Pluto in 7th that makes it nearly impossible to accept slights and rebuffs in a relationship setting. Because you are always looking for intimacy.

For Pluto in the 7H and Venus-Pluto, betrayal of trust cuts very deep...it's like dying. But, Pluto in its best sense, gives one a capacity to effect major evolutionary steps manifesting in the arena of relationships or relationships become a catalyst for such changes, although there's often an accompanying drama and turmoil.

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How do you guys feel about infidelity? Would you forgive and under which circumstances(if any)?

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My case may not exactly fit what you're asking, but I came to a point due to physiological reasons, where I lost interest in sex. My partner at the time was nine years younger than I was and still a young man. We came to an agreement that he could see other people. It was either that or have him become a monk, which wouldn't have been fair now would it?

Pluto in the 7H, just as any outer planet, is going to push the envelope of what is culturally considered to be "appropriate" or "proper." The outer planets have no regard for human social conventions and norms. They're there to push us beyond them. So, one of its expressions or patterns of this placement, as with Venus-Pluto, is a propensity for sexual triangles.

If I was born at a moment when Pluto fell in the 7H or Venus was conjunct or in hard aspect to Pluto, and I found myself repeatedly in triangles, I would be delving into my unconscious to find out why.

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posted March 09, 2015 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 09, 2015 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no 7th house Pluto. But I will often express if I find a friendship to be inappropriate.

After what I've been through, I feel like I should just dump a guy that has an inappropriate friendship.

I have Pluto in Scorpio house 6.

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astra7
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posted March 10, 2015 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found an interesting article. http://scorpioland.org/traits-people-pluto-7th-house/

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AscTaurus
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posted March 11, 2015 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the articles posted about Pluto in 7th and sometimes I feel like when I read them, they sound so "larger than life" , so "other" than me or a life that is happening "out there somewhere" etc. But not really me

I tend to like to be "on top" in relationships, but does that equate to being "controlling"?

I also tend to pay careful attention to the person I am involved with i.e I know their habits, their schedule, their idiosyncrasies etc. Does that make me "obsessive"?

So what if I like to give my full attention to my partner? Sometimes I will even switch the radio/Tv off(limiting external distractions) so that I hear EVERYTHING. Does that make me "intense"?

I guess having Pluto in 7th has one "expecting' others to do to them as they do to others.

So when someone cheats(back to the topic at hand). I feel like the authenticity of the relationship is compromised. Like the other person was not as invested as I etc.

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