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Topic: Is Sun in the 12th house a Curse?
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Astrohippiegirl Knowflake Posts: 61 From: atlanta, ga, usa Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 16, 2015 07:16 PM
Hi Guys, Just wondering what you think about being born with the sun in the 12th house. I personally have sun at 11 degrees cancer and my ascendant is at 25 degrees cancer which puts my sun smack in the middle of my 12th house. I feel like my whole life i have not been a very social person and i definitely love my private time.IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5457 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 07:36 PM
Not a curse in the slightest! Hang in there. The 12th house is a personal house with its quirks and hardships just like the other 11. It takes a lot of maturing and finding oneself to get a handle on it. Once you've done so it flourishes wonderfully. I personally believe it to be the best. It's the house of all end. The house of completion. Too many that have never experienced it personally talk the most crap about it and it annoys me. I see too many amateur astrologers scaring people because they're unaware of how it works. I have Sun, Moon, Mercury and Jupiter in my 12th. All except for Jupiter are in Libra with Jupiter at the tail end of Virgo. I'm not at all shy. I'm very extroverted, can't get enough of talking and getting to know new people. Always lived a social life with many, many friends from various backgrounds. I do however value my private life and time, could go days, months without talking to anyone and be okay with that. I respect privacy! I'm an awesome secret keeper. You're a Cancer and Cancer can be shy. I've known many and they were all very, very shy!! But you have to remember to look at your chart as a whole. It all works together. IP: Logged |
Astrohippiegirl Knowflake Posts: 61 From: atlanta, ga, usa Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 16, 2015 08:02 PM
Thanks Barbie,I tend to be shy but i open up eventually. I do agree that i could be alone for months without contact and be mentally fine. I think my issue is that i have a hard time relating to others but i think that has to do with mars being in opposition to ascendant. There are some things in my chart i wish i could reverse but i know they are there for a reason so i try to just make due and realize that they make me a unique person overall. Also, that's a huge stellium in the 12th house, Libra is a very social sign so maybe that gives you a personable disposition IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 483 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 16, 2015 08:30 PM
Being an introvert is not a curse. Being introverted and needing your alone time has to do with Asc/Sun in Cancer not the 12th house. I can show you charts of people with plenty of 12th house factors who are not hiding from the world or introverted or anti-social.
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Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5457 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 08:30 PM
You're welcome. No problem! I totally understand what you mean with not being able to relate to others. Many aren't able too so its not abnormal. I think where I somewhat luck out is due to that Libra stellium. It allows me to see all sides of a story, a situation, a person, etc. I'm accepting, may not like or agree with something but I would never judge a person or expect anyone to stop on my accord because of that. My emotions and feelings though are so powerful which I think at times can be more difficult for some to fully understand. I'm passionate about things that people less expect. I've always had a hard time getting others to really understand what I mean. So I'm able to relate but have a hard time getting others to relate to me. My whole life I've been deemed as being much more emotional than I really am. I'm just passionate. Yes, we are all unique and special in our own ways! My chart is full of squares and I don't sweat it! That Mars opposition makes sense! IP: Logged |
LexusVirgo Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted March 16, 2015 08:32 PM
No, But you were probably a man in another life. And A prominent one at that. No, nothing is a curse you always have free will. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4599 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 08:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Being an introvert is not a curse. Being introverted and needing your alone time has to do with Asc/Sun in Cancer not the 12th house. I can show you charts of people with plenty of 12th house factors who are not hiding from the world or introverted or anti-social.
While I certainly do not disagree. I'm Libra asc, Leo sun, Gemini moon and I'm introverted. Actually quite a lot!! Based on those it doesn't make sense. I have mercury, Venus, mars in 12th Virgo. So if the 12th isn't causing it then is it simply Virgo? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10920 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2015 09:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Being an introvert is not a curse. Being introverted and needing your alone time has to do with Asc/Sun in Cancer not the 12th house. I can show you charts of people with plenty of 12th house factors who are not hiding from the world or introverted or anti-social.
I think you are misunderstanding what it means to be an introvert. It does not mean that you have to be shy or anti-social. On a basic level all it means is socializing tires you out and you need to re-charge and be alone after socializing with people. I have sun conjunct saturn in the 12th, as well as venus, and my alone time is sacred to me. If I can't be alone with my thoughts I become very disagreeable. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5457 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 09:11 PM
By definition introvert a shy person. Psychology . a person characterized by concern primarily with his or her own thoughts and feelings (opposed to extrovert ). An introvert is a shy, reticent and typically self-centered person. Sounds like you're misunderstanding what it means and what Kannon actually meant. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 60581 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 16, 2015 09:15 PM
To me, Sun in the 12th is a person who wants to shine, as we all do. However, she finds it very hard/painful to put herself out there.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10920 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2015 09:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: By definition introvert a shy person. Psychology . a person characterized by concern primarily with his or her own thoughts and feelings (opposed to extrovert ). An introvert is a shy, reticent and typically self-centered person. Sounds like you're misunderstanding what it means and what Kannon actually meant.
Barbie, Stfu. I'm sick and irritable and not in any mood to deal with your crap right now. There can be multiple meanings for words. But generally speaking, I'm right. Not everyone who is introverted is shy.
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10920 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2015 09:24 PM
Definition: Contrary to what most people think, an introvert is not simply a person who is shy. In fact, being shy has little to do with being an introvert! Shyness has an element of apprehension, nervousness and anxiety, and while an introvert may also be shy, introversion itself is not shyness. Basically, an introvert is a person who is energized by being alone and whose energy is drained by being around other people.Introverts are more concerned with the inner world of the mind. They enjoy thinking, exploring their thoughts and feelings. They often avoid social situations because being around people drains their energy. This is true even if they have good social skills. After being with people for any length of time, such as at a party, they need time alone to "recharge." When introverts want to be alone, it is not, by itself, a sign of depression. It means that they either need to regain their energy from being around people or that they simply want the time to be with their own thoughts. Being with people, even people they like and are comfortable with, can prevent them from their desire to be quietly introspective. Being introspective, though, does not mean that an introvert never has conversations. However, those conversations are generally about ideas and concepts, not about what they consider the trivial matters of social small talk. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5457 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 09:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Barbie, Stfu. I'm sick and irritable and not in any mood to deal with your crap right now. There can be multiple meanings for words. But generally speaking, I'm right. Not everyone who is introverted is shy.
For the record. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10920 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2015 09:37 PM
Barbie, I've been very patient with you but i'm sick of your crap. You are constantly trying to antagonize me and troll me and when I call you out you deny it. Grow up! You are being a little witch and you know it! Again,Grow up! And don't try to lie and post some lame ass meme or smiley and say "have a good day" like you are fooling me. Since, you are a fake person and will lie, let me be the honest one. I can't stand you and think you are a fool. I literally couldn't value you or your opinion any less than I do now. So please, just stop your sh*t. I'm sick of it. It's bad enough that I have to sign in here and see you posting your nonsense at all, but to have it constantly directed at me? I will not tolerate it. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5457 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 09:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Barbie, I've been very patient with you but i'm sick of your crap. You are constantly trying to antagonize me and troll me and when I call you out you deny it. Grow up! You are being a little witch and you know it! Again,Grow up! And don't try to lie and post some lame ass meme or smiley and say "have a good day" like you are fooling me. Since, you are a fake person and will lie, let me be the honest one. I can't stand you and think you are a fool. I literally couldn't value you or your opinion any less than I do now. So please, just stop your sh*t. I'm sick of it. It's bad enough that I have to sign in here and see you posting your nonsense at all, but to have it constantly directed at me? I will not tolerate it.
For the record. Stop misplacing your anger from your personal life or whatever it is that has you SO worked up out on me. Calm down. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 51155 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2015 09:41 PM
I can understand your angst, but will you please withhold the aggression? You ruined a perfectly good thread. quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Barbie, I've been very patient with you but i'm sick of your crap. You are constantly trying to antagonize me and troll me and when I call you out you deny it. Grow up! You are being a little witch and you know it! Again,Grow up! And don't try to lie and post some lame ass meme or smiley and say "have a good day" like you are fooling me. Since, you are a fake person and will lie, let me be the honest one. I can't stand you and think you are a fool. I literally couldn't value you or your opinion any less than I do now. So please, just stop your sh*t. I'm sick of it. It's bad enough that I have to sign in here and see you posting your nonsense at all, but to have it constantly directed at me? I will not tolerate it.
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4599 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Barbie, I've been very patient with you but i'm sick of your crap. You are constantly trying to antagonize me and troll me and when I call you out you deny it. Grow up! You are being a little witch and you know it! Again,Grow up! And don't try to lie and post some lame ass meme or smiley and say "have a good day" like you are fooling me. Since, you are a fake person and will lie, let me be the honest one. I can't stand you and think you are a fool. I literally couldn't value you or your opinion any less than I do now. So please, just stop your sh*t. I'm sick of it. It's bad enough that I have to sign in here and see you posting your nonsense at all, but to have it constantly directed at me? I will not tolerate it.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000010.html "7. Mods should never insult, aggressively confront, verbally attack, or otherwise negatively engage other Mods. Mods are human. Mods themselves are also members of the community. Sometimes, things get heated. No one is perfect, not the least of all Mods. Free expression means sometimes getting angry over issues. That much is understandable. But that being said, Mods are expected to be united for the community and not divisive or polarizing with one other. No insults to one or more Mods by another Mod is allowed." IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10920 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2015 09:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: For the record. Stop misplacing your anger from your personal life or whatever it is that has you SO worked up out on me. Calm down.
^^^^^^ Randall, If you can't see how she is, I can't help. She follows me around the forum and antagonizes and trolls me. And when I call her out on it she denies it and tries to turn it around on me. My first post in this thread was normal and she took that opportunity to try and start more problems, that's what she always does. I've been very reasonable and patient but I'm tired of her immature behavior. I just want her to leave me alone. Maybe we should add an ignore function to the forum?
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DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4599 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 09:56 PM
Who posted first? Hint: open your eyesShe disagreed with your definition. It was your choice to insult. Be responsible and accountable for your actions. Right now you are being immature. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 51155 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2015 09:57 PM
You're the one who is losing your temper and disrupting the thread, so it is that particular behavior I am addressing. We already have an ignore function--just ignore those you don't jibe with. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4599 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 09:58 PM
Sorry. I'll back away. LOLIP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10920 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 16, 2015 10:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Who posted first? Hint: open your eyes
Deepfreeze, That does not matter. I did not address barbie at all with my post. She chose to start stuff with me like she always does! IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5457 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 10:09 PM
http://www.myastrologybook.com/Sun-in-the-twelfth-house-12th-house.htm Article on the 12th (with a pretty cool picture) that you might find helpful, Astrohippiegirl! There are so many really awesome articles online. You should have a look. Be wary of bias ones, don't let them scare you! IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4599 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 16, 2015 10:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Deepfreeze, That does not matter. I did not address barbie at all with my post. She chose to start stuff with me like she always does!
You know what does matter? Let's say that you're correct. You're still not correct to respond in the way that you did. What's worse. You're quite consistent in responding this way to many people. Some of us have bad days. You seem to have a lot. But you're always right, never wrong. So, have at it. I'm not going to argue indefinitely. IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 936 From: not here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 16, 2015 10:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Definition: Contrary to what most people think, an introvert is not simply a person who is shy. In fact, being shy has little to do with being an introvert! Shyness has an element of apprehension, nervousness and anxiety, and while an introvert may also be shy, introversion itself is not shyness. Basically, an introvert is a person who is energized by being alone and whose energy is drained by being around other people.Introverts are more concerned with the inner world of the mind. They enjoy thinking, exploring their thoughts and feelings. They often avoid social situations because being around people drains their energy. This is true even if they have good social skills. After being with people for any length of time, such as at a party, they need time alone to "recharge." When introverts want to be alone, it is not, by itself, a sign of depression. It means that they either need to regain their energy from being around people or that they simply want the time to be with their own thoughts. Being with people, even people they like and are comfortable with, can prevent them from their desire to be quietly introspective. Being introspective, though, does not mean that an introvert never has conversations. However, those conversations are generally about ideas and concepts, not about what they consider the trivial matters of social small talk.
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