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venus2tinkerbell
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posted April 02, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't realize we were talking about getting mad. I can lose my temper in a major way, and even though I feel bad about it, I usually have a good reason.

I start out trying to teach and educate. If the person is slightly annoying I might cut just a bit with my words. That's where things start. In general people usually understand they need to step back over that line they just crossed.

Since my Sun and Venus are in Cancer, love relations can get confused about me and think they can take advantage of me. That's when my Leo Asc conjunct Merc, sextile Mars can get just a little nasty, and below the belt if necessary. It takes more to get my point across.

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posted April 02, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You want to have the Lion behave like a complete ****? Look at their Mars sign and do something that contradicts that.

If Mars is in Cancer,say "don't be such a girl" or "are those my sister's panties that you are wearing?"

If Mars in is Aries,delay,delay,delay giving them what they want.

If Mars is in Virgo,say something stupid,ignorant,baseless and very prejudice- with a straight face.

If Mars is in Gemini. Don't talk to them. ignore them flat out. That ****** them off!!

If Mars is in Libra,push and shove people. Act very intense and narrow-minded. Talk over people etc.


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posted April 02, 2015 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You want to have the Lion behave like a complete ****? Look at their Mars sign and do something that contradicts that.

If Mars is in Cancer,say "don't be such a girl" or "are those my sister's panties that you are wearing?"

If Mars in is Aries,delay,delay,delay giving them what they want.

If Mars is in Virgo,say something stupid,ignorant,baseless and very prejudice- with a straight face.

If Mars is in Gemini. Don't talk to them. ignore them flat out. That ****** them off!!

If Mars is in Libra,push and shove people. Act very intense and narrow-minded. Talk over people etc.



OMG This is so good.


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posted April 02, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... most Leonine people I know are FURIOUS when someone is questioning their authority...

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posted April 02, 2015 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's add some more Mars

Mars in Scorpio--That guy over there is sexier than you.

Mars in Sagittarius---Let's be best friends and never leave each other.

Mars in Aries--That skinny dude over there can beat you up.

Mars in Taurus--I ate that piece of cheesecake you were hiding in the back of the fridge.

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posted April 02, 2015 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My oldest brother is a Leo , "The King." I actually call him that all the time!! (he loves it of course lol). He is also a Scorpio rising. What I've noticed with him is that he is always jovial and making jokes with most people. However, if you insult him (or anyone he cares about) you better have a good logical reason for doing so AND you better explain it in a calm manner otherwise you will get the big RAWRRRR. He loathes having a boss. He has to really respect the person over him to be okay with it. Even with that, he wishes to be on his own.

He also values his Lion's sleep so much, he is a very light sleeper. lol

He also hates it when the people he loves settles for what he deems 'less', and to be honest he is usually right.

Also don't ruin the good mood, he hates that lol. He really hates negativity that will ruin a nice fun mood unless it has a valid reason.

Haha Leos are so fun and quirky ^__^.

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posted April 03, 2015 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You want to have the Lion behave like a complete ****? Look at their Mars sign and do something that contradicts that.

If Mars is in Cancer,say "don't be such a girl" or "are those my sister's panties that you are wearing?"

If Mars in is Aries,delay,delay,delay giving them what they want.

If Mars is in Virgo,say something stupid,ignorant,baseless and very prejudice- with a straight face.

If Mars is in Gemini. Don't talk to them. ignore them flat out. That ****** them off!!

If Mars is in Libra,push and shove people. Act very intense and narrow-minded. Talk over people etc.


Aries, this is so true. I start to panic and feel like I want to break something, just thinking about being ignored, especially if I'm already hot

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posted April 03, 2015 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience alot of leos bring out the a**hole in others by being an a**hole themselves. I've noticed that aries and leo influenced folks will try to bully you if you let them. My brother is a leo sun,ascendant,moon,venus,and mars and he can be a real SOB. When I was little he would become angry and attack me for no reason. We used to play basketball with some of his friends and they quit hanging out with him after he violently kicked and punched me because we lost a basketball game. The funny thing was is I always played better when I played against him and would knock down almost every shot I took! I couldn't be effective when I was on his team because he was too d*mn competitive and took all of the fun out of games. As we've gotten older he's stopped trying to bully me but only because i'm bigger than him now and could kick his a** now if he pressed the issue.

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posted April 03, 2015 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the thing AG, I have never bullied nor physically abused anyone. Could be my 12th House, could be Jupiter, which is dominant. I just can't be bothered most of the time, you know.

DF also mentioned his friends sister, who was getting into fights. I was wondering, when do Leos become bullies and abusers?

I remembered, my cousin is Leo Sun, Moon and Venus in 7th House, Taurus Mars, Cappy Asc - she was quite agressive. She'd talk down to her parents, and just basically do whatever she wants. At 24, she's calmed down now.


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posted April 03, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagical     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmmmmm. Well, I am not a Sun in Leo but have a lot of experiences dealing with them.

The woman who gave birth to me was a Leo. What turned her into an aho was me being born. She was a teenager and believed ?i destroyed her life.

My ex is a Leo Sun with mercury mars conjunct. Virgo rising and extremely conservative. He takes EVERYTHING serious and he believes he doesn't need help or anybody telling him anything. Helpful pointers, he rolls his eyes and seethes a little underneath. This usually flares up during parent teacher interviews. He thought the child psychologist was full of it when he was told our daughter has ADHD. It hot worse when he was told his daughter has special needs and would be lagging behind her peers at school. That is when he went ballistic and then demanded that there was nothing wrong with his child......Arrogance is one of his vices and it gets him every time. He scales up his fixed pedestal only to have a fall and have to eat crow. Interesting rollercoaster show really.

He don't like me much cause my Saturn squares his Leo conjunction.

My little Leo gets all wild if she has to go out for a car ride and fights her father. She's given him many boots to the face and has scratched him up. Another war will break out when we need to cut her nails. Not only does she get irate with her father she gets upset with me too. She is very fixed and determined about things. Ah, but she's still a mommy's girl.

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posted April 03, 2015 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The interesting thing there is that perhaps moon and house system really matter also.

The reason that I say that is that my friend's sister is only a week older than I am. Although our planets are definitely at much different degrees, she still has Mercury, Venus, and mars in Virgo.
Outer planets obviously all pretty much the same.
She just has Aries moon.

I bullied when I was a kid, but was also bullied by older kids. I grew out of that pretty quickly.
I don't think she bullied at all so much as she would just take the crazy train sometimes. She just would go ballistic. It was like, "You know what? Do you need some medication or wtf??". LOL
She also has moon opposite pluto (don't forget moon is Aries!)
She's really mellowed out now and the patience that she shows for her EXTREMELY hyper son is pretty impressive.

Not that others don't, but I can really see in myself, my sister, and my friend's sister that Leos really mature with age. At least we did! LOL

His sister, I have no idea on the birth time.
My sister, I'm not exactly sure, but in the ballpark. She very well could have her Leo stellium in the first house.

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posted April 03, 2015 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for me. I think my Gemini Moon (which sextiles my sun, trine scorpio Uranus) and my heavy 12th house Virgo play a role into things that can make me grumpy.

Sometimes I like my space. I want to just drift away into some magical place with my music on. I can get a little grumpy if I'm unable to have this wind down time.

I don't like indecisiveness. Like when we all want to go eat somewhere and we have to have a 30-45 minute meeting where everyone says, "I don't care. You guys decide." I will get grumpy because I'm hungry dammit! Eventually, I flat out tell them, "We're going here and don't complain because you had 30 minutes to figure it out! I'm hungry and I'm going to eat with or without you unless you want me to eat your face."

I don't like when things are made to be too complicated. There's NO WAY that I'd ever survive being on some kind of committee that decides where the radio knobs should go in this new car we're making. I'd just be like, "Is it near the other radio controls?" .......... "Then put the f***ing thing there and let's move on!" (Or I'd want to put the craziest, most expensive stuff in it. LOL Depends on my interest in it)

Or for example. If I'm out to eat or something. If I get crappy service, but they're just busy or clearly having a rough day. I understand. I'm not rude and I tip well. But if someone takes their crappy day out on ME with some attitude. Home skillet better think again.

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posted April 03, 2015 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
In my experience alot of leos bring out the a**hole in others by being an a**hole themselves. I've noticed that aries and leo influenced folks will try to bully you if you let them. My brother is a leo sun,ascendant,moon,venus,and mars and he can be a real SOB. When I was little he would become angry and attack me for no reason. We used to play basketball with some of his friends and they quit hanging out with him after he violently kicked and punched me because we lost a basketball game. The funny thing was is I always played better when I played against him and would knock down almost every shot I took! I couldn't be effective when I was on his team because he was too d*mn competitive and took all of the fun out of games. As we've gotten older he's stopped trying to bully me but only because i'm bigger than him now and could kick his a** now if he pressed the issue.



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posted April 03, 2015 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a laid back saggy who grew up in houseful of Leo's, my mother and both my brothers.

I would not put myself in another household with Leo's, ever! I'm to laid back and peace loving to enjoy their tyrades.
They want all the attention and if you do something great that they wish they'd done...well they will just take the credit for it or somehow make it seem they helped you and eventually get it around to seem like it was only through their help you accomplished what you did.

Ummmmm, no little Leo's, sometimes us little saggys are capable of great things to. Sorry to tell you but you guys don't have the market cornered on "all good things done in life" are done by you! Sorry guys!

Wow, I feel better....that's been a long time coming! Lol

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posted April 03, 2015 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
Hahahaaa must be a relief!

Please Gabby, share their placements. I really wanna see the link.

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posted April 03, 2015 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where the hell are these Leos?? LOL
Maybe I don't see other Leos the same way the other signs see Leos. Must not.


And Gabby, this sounds like they belong in management! They're a perfect fit!

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They want all the attention and if you do something great that they wish they'd done...well they will just take the credit for it or somehow make it seem they helped you and eventually get it around to seem like it was only through their help you accomplished what you did.


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posted April 03, 2015 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Not here to bash my fellow kings and queens of zodiac, just curious about when do Leos become a pain in the...

I'm very mellow, easy-going, caring, willing to sacrafise a lot, but will go to war for those I care about. Thankfully, all the negative traits are not as prominent.

From your personal experience, when do Leos become selfish, narcissistic and egoistical? Afflicted planets? Bad planetary sign combos?


When you divorce one.

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posted April 03, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When you divorce one.


haha, personal experience?

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posted April 03, 2015 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Where the hell are these Leos?? LOL
Maybe I don't see other Leos the same way the other signs see Leos. Must not.


I was wondering too. What do you guys do to provoke such reaction from Leos? jk... kinda

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posted April 03, 2015 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's the thing AG, I have never bullied nor physically abused anyone. Could be my 12th House, could be Jupiter, which is dominant. I just can't be bothered most of the time, you know.

DF also mentioned his friends sister, who was getting into fights. I was wondering, when do Leos become bullies and abusers?

I remembered, my cousin is Leo Sun, Moon and Venus in 7th House, Taurus Mars, Cappy Asc - she was quite agressive. She'd talk down to her parents, and just basically do whatever she wants. At 24, she's calmed down now.



Well of course most leos aren't physically abusive, that's just an extreme example. However, I have noticed that most leos have a douchebag side, just in varying degrees. One thing i've noticed is they like to look good, even if that means making you look bad and throwing you under the bus. Like if you are in a big group of people they'll tell an embarrassing story about you to make you look bad. They'll also try to control and dominate situations if you let them. They don't even notice they are doing this, it's kind of an unconscious thing as far as I can tell.

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posted April 03, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
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Hahahaaa must be a relief!

Please Gabby, share their placements. I really wanna see the link.


Mom-
Leo Sun
Scorp Moon
Potentially a Scorp AC(she's pretty sure of her BT)
Leo Uranus
Leo Pluto
Virgo Mercury
Virgo Jupiter

Oldest Brother-
Leo Sun
Cap Moon
Scorp AC
Leo Merc


Older Brother-
Leo Sun
Aqua Moon
Aquarius AC
Leo Merc
Virgo Venus

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posted April 03, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh where do I begin? My ex had a Leo Sun and Taurus moon along with venus conjunct mars in virgo. Ugh….never again.

He at first was a gentleman but gradually showed more of his true colors: he was immature, arrogant, selfish and extremely controlling/possessive. He also insulted my family, which will unleash my volcanic temper like no other. I never once said an unkind word about his friends and family (they were all wonderful people), so I was surprised when he insulted my family.

I think there are great Leos out there (my best friend is a Leo), but the immature ones can be horrendous. I find [b]immature[/i] Leos to be more intolerable than their counterparts whom have other zodiac signs. The good ones, however, are fantastically loyal and have big hearts.

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posted April 04, 2015 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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haha, personal experience?

Yup! He really became a different person for a while there.

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I'd have to agree with Aries23Degrees that we've got to look at the Mars sign. That's what's going to make us mad and we'll just express it in that royal-telling-off Leo manner.

My Mars is in Virgo and I'm pretty proud of the fact that I rarely lose my temper with people nowadays. I think Virgo Mars gets angry when little things go wrong. But, I try to be less critical of people nowadays. I feel like I get angry with my computer more than anyone else. I just yelled at it for freezing up, haha. Losing track of something also drives me crazy! I HATE not knowing where something is.

I think, if an actual person wants to make me mad, do or say something that's totally unnecessary and could be avoided.

Like, when I was in college, I would always get so angry when my roommates would just not do their dishes (two of them were fellow Leos!) And just say, "Eh, I'll get to it" and never do it. What is the point of that? IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES. What else are you doing? Or say something really stupid and ignorant and be flippant about it. Also, when people know they're being rude or offensive and just keep it doing it anyway. A lack of humility or maturity. That pushes my buttons.

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posted April 04, 2015 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'd have to agree with Aries23Degrees that we've got to look at the Mars sign. That's what's going to make us mad and we'll just express it in that royal-telling-off Leo manner.

My Mars is in Virgo and I'm pretty proud of the fact that I rarely lose my temper with people nowadays. I think Virgo Mars gets angry when little things go wrong. But, I try to be less critical of people nowadays. I feel like I get angry with my computer more than anyone else. I just yelled at it for freezing up, haha. Losing track of something also drives me crazy! I HATE not knowing where something is.

I think, if an actual person wants to make me mad, do or say something that's totally unnecessary and could be avoided.

Like, when I was in college, I would always get so angry when my roommates would just not do their dishes (two of them were fellow Leos!) And just say, "Eh, I'll get to it" and never do it. What is the point of that? IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES. What else are you doing? Or say something really stupid and ignorant and be flippant about it. Also, when people know they're being rude or offensive and just keep it doing it anyway. A lack of humility or maturity. That pushes my buttons.


Virgo Mars here also. It's the same for me. I can handle a big problem but when little issues keep popping up then I get very irritated!
Agree with the other stuff too. Or if I ask "why?" and get some generic answer. I hate that.

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