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Topic: When does Leo become an a*****e?
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Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1084 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 01, 2015 04:47 PM
Not here to bash my fellow kings and queens of zodiac, just curious about when do Leos become a pain in the...I'm very mellow, easy-going, caring, willing to sacrafise a lot, but will go to war for those I care about. Thankfully, all the negative traits are not as prominent. From your personal experience, when do Leos become selfish, narcissistic and egoistical? Afflicted planets? Bad planetary sign combos? IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 758 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 01, 2015 05:26 PM
I've got Jupiter on my Leo AscSometimes I feel like Mother Theresa Sometimes I feel like King George VIII I can really do egomaniac with the best of them. Jupiter is so good to me, but I think I abuse Jupiter. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4776 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 01, 2015 05:33 PM
When someone disrespects me. Then I really get that Leo crackin'. Leo Sun at 27+ sextile Gemini moon Square Taurus Jupiter IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1084 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 01, 2015 06:33 PM
Venus, hahaha I love your analogy. DF, yeah, I can get quite agressive, but very veeery rarely. I can't even remember last time I raised my voice. Maybe because I don't live with my little siblings anymore, and I don't see them mistreated, etc. Otherwise this Leo Mars sq Pluto and Saturn could show it's claws. I remember I had an argument with my Scorpio granny. She was openly criticising my mother and praising my dad, obvioisly. I was listening... listening... patiently... suddenly-SNAP!!! I don't think she expected this lovely polite Virgo Venus/Asc to express such anger and frustration. I felt like I had to defend my mum. She's not perfect, but I thought my granny treated and talked about her unfairly . Granny: You are a typical Leo showing your claws. Me: You are a typical Scorpio showing your sting. That was it, 3 minutes of argument was over Back to friends, drinking tea like nothing happened. IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1084 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 01, 2015 06:36 PM
Does anyone have an experience with Leo stelliums?How is a person with Sun, Venus, Mars, Jupiter in this sign? IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4776 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 01, 2015 07:24 PM
My sister is sun, mercury, mars, Leo. She's really mellowed out and matured her Leo but in her younger days if she flipped.... run. Run fast, run far. She threw anything in reach, punched, etc. She fought like a man and she fought men. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2188 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 01, 2015 09:12 PM
I become an ******* when: * people tell me what to do in a bossy manner * someone disrespects me * someone is extremely arrogant even though they can't show a thing for it * someone takes what's rightfully mine * someone gets mad and yells at me for really dumb reasonsI throw extremely harsh words at people and point out their flaws to make them feel bad. I roar at people and put them in their rightful place, but that's only when I feel like being an ******* lol My sister has Leo sun and mars, while my brother has Leo sun and Venus. They're both Leo mercuries. I'm the odd one out -_- They can be extreme ******** only when they're mad and something that they really wanted to happen doesn't go their way. But then again, they both have mars-ruled moons. That could add to the ******* flavor. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4776 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 01, 2015 09:13 PM
^^^ yep!! IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 758 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 01, 2015 10:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: I become an ******* when: * people tell me what to do in a bossy manner * someone disrespects me * someone is extremely arrogant even though they can't show a thing for it * someone takes what's rightfully mine * someone gets mad and yells at me for really dumb reasonsI throw extremely harsh words at people and point out their flaws to make them feel bad. I roar at people and put them in their rightful place, but that's only when I feel like being an ******* lol My sister has Leo sun and mars, while my brother has Leo sun and Venus. They're both Leo mercuries. I'm the odd one out -_- They can be extreme ******** only when they're mad and something that they really wanted to happen doesn't go their way. But then again, they both have mars-ruled moons. That could add to the ******* flavor.
I could hear you talking while I read this. Girl, you made your point! I love this.
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Keela Knowflake Posts: 738 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted April 01, 2015 10:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: I become an ******* when: * people tell me what to do in a bossy manner * someone disrespects me * someone takes what's rightfully mine... They can be extreme ******** only when they're mad and something that they really wanted to happen doesn't go their way.
Add being ignored and sidelined to the disrespect. For zero apparent reason, especially. As for the first point, I've laconically pointed out that if Locke from Lost had his "Don't tell me what I can't do" thing, the way it goes is more so "Don't tell me what to do". Because no. Might not be an open ******* about it but you'll likely consider it being that in any case when/if seeing that I'm doing it my way in any case, since the scenario was either that "You don't tell me what to do (unless forcing me to somehow, in which case very unhappy Leo)" or "Your way sucks and I know better and am right, so no". IP: Logged |
DeeMonroe Newflake Posts: 23 From: ATL, Jawja Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 01, 2015 10:58 PM
For me, when I'm angry. I can be surprisingly cruel and actually enjoy it.With a Scorpio Rising, Mercury sq Pluto and Mars in Virgo-My mouth is deadly and I'm fully aware of it so I pick my battles wisely. I've had people want to beat my a** after I went off Lol. IP: Logged |
DeeMonroe Newflake Posts: 23 From: ATL, Jawja Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 01, 2015 11:03 PM
OH! One more! My sleep! Do not mess with a Lion's sleep LolIP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2188 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 01, 2015 11:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeeMonroe: OH! One more! My sleep! Do not mess with a Lion's sleep Lol
Omg lol that is soo me I groan and get so cranky every time someone bugs my sleep especially when I haven't gotten enough of it IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6203 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 01, 2015 11:20 PM
My mom is a Leo ASC, NN, and Mars so I won't go into why I think she became the way she is, but I will say I believe it was her life that made her that way. Her natal chart was her potential but her environment shaped it.She's got some Scorpio in her chart (including sun) and I think that made it very difficult for her to forget or "get over" some things as well as amplifying some feelings of betrayal against the world in general and a few people specifically, and it shapes her to use psychological methods of revenge over more physical ones...yet when drunk she could fight like a cat (and she walked like one, too) and I used to give tours to friends of mine when I was a kid showing the dents in the wall (a favorite was many near the front door in which Dad rammed himself backwards trying to get Mom off his back who was clawing at his face, but I don't know what it was over...left plenty of dents in the wall though!). She had a lot of bitterness and malice toward the world but the absolute worst I heard of (speaking of mothers) was an Aries sun-Scorpio moon, driven to extreme sadism and engineering violence that made her smile in joy she sounded like she'd been ripped from a Stephen King novel! And I read somewhere that those placements, when combined, could become very dangerous. So I guess the Leo/Scorpio mix isn't the worst when the energy goes bad, at least generally speaking (OTOH, someone who went very bad with 5H placements making them an ARTIST and perhaps a Leonine desire for infamy in addition to other placements enhancing true sadistic and/or vengeful tendencies could be a real horror...) IP: Logged |
Keela Knowflake Posts: 738 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted April 02, 2015 01:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: She had a lot of bitterness and malice toward the world but the absolute worst I heard of (speaking of mothers) was an Aries sun-Scorpio moon, driven to extreme sadism and engineering violence that made her smile in joy she sounded like she'd been ripped from a Stephen King novel!
I think you have the Scorpio and Aries driving things more than a primary Leo (aside Leo Mars in combination with those two?) there, given that a Virgo Sun with Sco ASC and Aries Moon was one of the "most prone to attack" people I've known. In her case though it was the verbal lashing or "Strike with anything you know about people whenever at all feeling threatened, vulnerable, in need of looking better than someone or winning in a situation, any excuse" instead of attacking blindly physically. I can see how some Leo on top instead of the Virgo might make things more physical as well, but that's not necessarily what I'd call acting an ******* . It's something else. "Selfish, narcissistic and egotistical" also aren't *necessarily* the keywords if talking about someone attacking physically? DeeMonroe also lists the Scorpio + Virgo for a deadly mouth, so some other signs on top of or aside the Leo are common in the mentions so far. I've known many people with Scorpio in their charts so always felt I was at a disadvantage compared to that with only the Scorpio NN, but no, I was never as potentially malicious or vindictive either. I think some Leo assholeness is more a reaction to their feeling mistreated, one way or another. It may be feeling mistreated over very little that some other sign wouldn't take as neglect (ATTENTION, the Leo keyword?), disrespect or whatever other trigger, but the Leo doesn't like it and thus the Leo turns difficult. I would say it's more a reaction to something if you get a difficult Leo. Maybe it's a longer term reaction to childhood circumstances or something else if you have a regularly "difficult" Leo, but mostly I'd suspect it's a reaction to the displeasure over something. You may get an answer if you ask what YOU've done wrong to cause it, though of course it's better if you just fix the "obvious" wrong you've committed, or better if Leo doesn't act the primadonna over whatever, but you insulted Leo in some way, anyway, so they're huffy or act the ******* to make you fix things? Rather the infamy mentioned than being ignored, too. But no, don't disturb or wake sleeping lions to deprive them of their sleep. They ARE liable to bite your head off at times, but again it's a reaction to something? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6203 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 02, 2015 02:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Keela: "Selfish, narcissistic and egotistical" also aren't *necessarily* the keywords if talking about someone attacking physically?
Good point. Selfish, narcissist, egotistical and the like (which really all go together anyway) do apply to my mom but not to (as far as I could tell from hearing about her) the Aries sun-Scorpio moon. IIRC, what I read about the danger of Scorpio moon combined with Aries sun is that they can become irrationally vengeful and easily hurt while at the same time prone to act on their impulses for revenge. From the sound of it, however, she did so because it was fun, but he came from a family that had a lot of sexual abuse in it so his mother was likely a victim of that growing up, though his mother was equally evil to son and daughter alike (and she also preferred to get her husband or other males to carry out the violence, though she had plenty of fun herself...more torture actually when a child was still too young to effectively resist her authority to administer punishment which was often very calculated abuse to inflict the most pain and harm without being obvious to others outside the home later). Other than that I'm just sticking to the description where Leos become incredibly egotistical and self-absorbed on a regular basis as opposed to provoked by others (whether or not their feelings of being provoked are reasonable or not and the one seen as provoking is usually an ******* or not). IP: Logged |
unforgiven_soul Knowflake Posts: 483 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 02, 2015 05:42 AM
The answer is always...IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4776 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted April 02, 2015 06:08 AM
These are great!! Ha! So it's not just me! All of these things really depend on details. Someone is being loud, disturbing, etc when I'm trying to go to bed = you won't like me. But, for example. One time a friend's car broke down at 6 a.m. and they were stranded. No biggie. Go help him out. So it really depends. Wake me up because you're bored? Better stfu and just watch me sleep. LOL You'll have a scrabble board up your @ss. Leos really do get better with age from what I've seen. My best friend's sister is only a week older than me (a Leo) and she's SOOOOOO much more calm than she used to be. She's Aries moon. She used to get scary! LMAO IP: Logged |
olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 622 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 02, 2015 08:38 AM
Disrespecting me or my family. Stupidity Ungratefulness Arrogance , just because some peep's have money doesn't make it right to S&^% on people less fortunate. Selfish or unkind peep's Manipulation Leo Sun 17 deg + Leo Saturn 19 deg. IP: Logged |
DeeMonroe Newflake Posts: 23 From: ATL, Jawja Registered: Jun 2011
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posted April 02, 2015 09:32 AM
Could be me but I've noticed people don't like us getting mad. It's a big NO NO. People will keep their distance from me as if I'm in the wrong and I NEVER fly off the handle for no reason. I'll give people 3 chances in my head after that I'm like f*ck you definitely deserve it now IP: Logged |
lilithpluto Knowflake Posts: 2688 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 02, 2015 11:30 AM
When ppl disrespect me, take me like a fool.otherwise, I'm good
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Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1084 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 02, 2015 12:35 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies. It was really interesting to read, and I could see myself in all of you Wow Pixie, this is heavy. I can see how Leo/Scorpio energy can become abusive if not handled properly. I suspect I have a late Scorpio Moon instead of Sag (0 degrees), and sometimes I feel that wide square quite strongly. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 758 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted April 02, 2015 12:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeeMonroe: Could be me but I've noticed people don't like us getting mad. It's a big NO NO. People will keep their distance from me as if I'm in the wrong and I NEVER fly off the handle for no reason. I'll give people 3 chances in my head after that I'm like f*ck you definitely deserve it now
this is so true, but I think people stay out of my way because they know I'm right. They might not like what I'm saying but there's really no argument. I'm not always right. My family likes to remind me of this, but you know why? Because I'm usually right. And when you get me mad...you know you're wrong! IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1084 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 02, 2015 12:54 PM
Rage of the Leo *RAAAAWWWRRRR*IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 2188 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted April 02, 2015 12:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Liliya: Rage of the Leo *RAAAAWWWRRRR*
Damn straight. Don't be messin' with a Leo if you don't want awesome saliva in your face and maybe a couple scratches across your face IP: Logged |