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posted April 07, 2015 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like he has venus sextile moon and a very active mars... plus venus in aqua, aries moon and pisces mars. So it's many factors here, but the above is enough in itself actually.

But in general, I would say that you should always look out for a man who seems to have a low self-confidence, a troubled childhood (the parents divorce was ugly, the father was absent, the relationship to the parents is bad etc.) and if he looks kinda hot also.

Cause if he got a troubled childhood which somehow infected his way of dealing with relationship issues, he is definitely gonna cheat. If he got a venus-moon aspect he will likely be very charming to the opposite sex, and if other factors is there, he is very likely gonna use this ability to cheat lol.

And if he is heavy with fire, or if he got an active mars, a troubled neptune along with a few challenging uranus aspect to personal planets, he is very likely going to be a cheater, just saying.

(saying this from experience)

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posted April 07, 2015 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could i become a cheater?

- moon in aries
- venus in 12h
- neptune quincunx sun/asc
- Uranus in 4h/neptune in 5h
- mars in gemini in 11h and VERY highly aspected like quincunx uranus, opposite neptune, etc.
- venus trine uranus

but saturn rules my 7h and sextiles my venus

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posted April 07, 2015 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LK, you put a lot of thought into your response and looked at the chart as a whole, aspects and not just planets. I like that.

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Personally, "cheating" is not just high sex drive, thrill seeking, adventure driven, hunter- conquerer behavior. The urge for merging and physical expression will be there no matter what. How you act on it is the key. Here, it's t's a clear lack of integrity.

Whenever you see Saturn it represents integrity and when it is square to planets it indicates there will be a lack of integrity with these planets involved. Here it is square to Venus in Aqu (friendship) and wide square to Mars in Pisces (represents illusions).

His Saturn is in 11H Scorpio - he doesn't know who his real friends are, plus Saturn shows where he longs at his deepest level to be successful. In Scorpio 11H it would be connecting with people to bring gains in life. Saturn in Scorpio wants to increase strength either socially, politically, educationally, gender empowerment-wise, or spiritually. It wants to give itself permission for living life, become an authority somehow. Here it is in dealing with other people.

His Venus Mars positions don't exemplify longevity. So he jumps from one to the next searching to connect but his integrity is off with the squares.

If he would understand what and why he acts this way, he could be upfront when he meets women and tell them he's a cheater, or that he's interested in an open relationship. Then he would align with like souls and be within integrity. Nothing wrong with the way he is if he owns up to his natural urges and then chooses not to hurt others instead of cheating on them.

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posted April 07, 2015 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
Could i become a cheater?

- moon in aries
- venus in 12h
- neptune quincunx sun/asc
- Uranus in 4h/neptune in 5h
- mars in gemini in 11h and VERY highly aspected like quincunx uranus, opposite neptune, etc.
- venus trine uranus

but saturn rules my 7h and sextiles my venus


Definitely there is some factors here, suggesting someone who could have a secret affair, while in a relationship (venus in 12th combined with aries moon) but are they in aspect?

If you're a girl, I am more insecure about it though, as I've only had experiences with cheating men:P

In general I think the combination of venus-moon aspects and venus-jupiter aspects is the worst (maybe also venus-mars) it just really makes a person extremely charming and appeals to the opposite sex. It can make you attract any guy/girl you want.

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posted April 07, 2015 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my moon quintiles venus
Venus is semi-sextile jupiter

I've heard that I can be extremely charming if I want but for the most part I am just "normal"

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posted April 07, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another example to prove cheating can happen with any astrological combination since it doesn't depend on the astrological chart.

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posted April 07, 2015 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you see cheater alerts in my chart, honey?

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posted April 07, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Another example to prove cheating can happen with any astrological combination since it doesn't depend on the astrological chart.


Even for notorious, never-stopping cheaters?

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posted April 07, 2015 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by confusedaseff:
maybe it's that venus in aquarius? i'm just assuming but from the people i met the big cheaters - like huge affairs that tear everything in their and their spouses and their kids lives apart .. have been quite aquarius heavy.

^ of course this is what i've seen in my life with the people in my life. theres probably heavy aquarius people that don't cheat.


I'm Venus in Aquarius, heavy Uranus/Aquarius as well... I'm not a cheater at all. I'm female though...nature vs nurture of the influence possibly.

My Venus is also one degree from Juno (also in Aquarius) which I think makes me more interested in the commitment. His Juno is in Libra... not such a stable sign for romance I think.

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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Before I even looked at the chart I said, "this is sounding like an Aries Moon"

Lol... I'm also Aries Moon... that really just makes me fall in love with his dogs more than him... But, an Aries moon doesn't help with impulsive feelings.

Perhaps it's Uranus in the 12th house (secret affairs, lack of control over deep impulsive feelings?)

Doesn't help that the majority of his planets are in the 1-3 houses - he's already starting out as a selfish character.

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posted April 07, 2015 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
Venus conjunct mars people are highly sexual if they don't get it 10 times a day they will find a way to get it. And the trine to Pluto makes him even more so.

Agree...

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posted April 07, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
To tell you frankly , if you don't tell me that he is a cheater , I would not jump any kind of conclusion from his chart .

Infact , I think this is not a typical cheater chart but could this from how he was raised? And how he value toward family and lover?

If you tell me that he is a cheater , I could tell that his chart is very interesting and it is the hard one to interpret by looking at first glimpse.

Imho,
I don't think only venus in aqua and aries moon should have a reputation for cheaters , there should be more affected this then we could make the interpretation .

1. Venus - mars
- i don't think his venus conjunct mars because orb is too wide = 9 degree? And it's not the same sign either. Atleast if you think it is conjunct , should it be in the same sigh ? That two planets can have the same energy?

2. Venus - moon/pholus - saturn
- his venus is exactly square saturn (8 minutes!) and his moon/pholus quincunx saturn . Quincunx is really an internal conflict aspect , you couldn't see it directly like the opposition or square.
The 2 important love planets is malefic by saturn , this could bring anyone living in formidable fear in relationship . He could act as fear for his lost when in love or else in an opposite way , dump everyone before they hurt you as this might help regaining his security .

Infidelity could be his opponent from fear of lost love or low esteem?

3. Jupiter couldn't help and pholus stimulate it..
- in his case , Jupiter might not help the moon (square) . It could make the moon more inflate, too optimist . And Pholus exlode everything it touch , exactly on his moon . Make this situation more unstable . And jupiter seems to help saturn doing his jobs very well !

There should be a total chaos from jupiter here.

4. uranus stray the moon
- there are the unstable energy from uranus to the moon . Although it is a nice Trine , but with the square of jupiter and explode by pholus here , the moon is really unstable .
- the uranus conjunct mercury , which make it tough for his intellectual and moreover mercury is his 7th Ruler of marriage.

5. His taurus NN in5th , square Venus , quincunx AC
His mission in this life time is about 5th realm -sensible ,pleasure , beauty , all of earth materials with hardly emphasis by the square of venus and this confused him somehow or he couldn't see it clearly ( NN quincunx AC ) , so he may not dealing with it quite well.

The sub-conscious dynamic why this realm is important for him in this life ,might be from his past- life restriction? ( his SN conjunct saturn in scorpio) ?


Now here, I see the flamboyant soul with unstable mind and intellectual who fear for love that think infidelity could bring his lack of self-esteem back .

I don't think he 's born as a cheater/player but all of his infidelity driven by his insecurity.


Well said! I agree with the other posters talking about the environmental factors- personal upbringing and free will will always come into play. That is why two people can have the same exact charts and have fundamentally different outcomes in life.

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posted April 07, 2015 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Even for notorious, never-stopping cheaters?

You know, it usually goes like this...you find out someone is a cheater, than you check the chart and find the explanation for it in a lot of non-cheater aspects

such as Venus in Cap - faithful
but in a cheater chart, Venus in Cap - becomes the lustful aspect per se

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posted April 07, 2015 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually think it's his Cappy Sun - it's one of the horniest signs in the zodiac, in combination with Sagittarius Asc.

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posted April 07, 2015 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going by this thread (and plenty of others) it sounds as if many people are driven so hard by their lusts and that masturbation isn't an option and they can't stop themselves. (Though that may be BS just like the ones who at least imply we're slave to our impulses like toddlers and therefore what we feel is what we do, and if I believed that then I'd say the age of adulthood should be 13 or even younger.)

Which raises the obvious (to me) question, if the sex drive is so incredibly powerful that it can scarcely be resisted (even if only by a large minority, though going by these astrological listings I'd say a majority) then why doesn't society adapt to it rather than shoot itself in the foot by being so stupid and selfish as to be filled with individuals who demand to be the sole object of attraction and lust when that's impossible?

Is it that selfishness is just as overpowering as lust? Or are we, as a society, just stupid that we can't help but find unnecessary ways to make our lives more painful than they have to be? (Don't forget that those pulled into such sordid affairs tend to suffer as well, and are also the only true innocents if there is such a thing in this case.)

(Though come to think of it, some societies past and present DO and have sexual relations that "don't signify" for a couple. Though typically women have it harder than men even today, but Japan seems fairly forgiving of both genders, at least in some circumstances. I've also learned that there are actually dating service for spouses wanting to cheat! Still, the last doesn't really count, after all it wouldn't be cheating if it were understood to be part of the arrangement, so that's just capitalist exploitation of what society refuses to deal with due to the innate selfishness and/or stupidity of its citizens.)

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posted April 07, 2015 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I actually think it's his Cappy Sun - it's one of the horniest signs in the zodiac, in combination with Sagittarius Asc.

How does it compare to Cappie Mars as described here?
http://astrophilosophy.tumblr.com/post/51098706437/mars-in-capricorn

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They can be very cold, gloomy, vulgar, even evil. They are the types to stew in their lusts and desires, unashamed. They can be very scary. They possess a great amount of power and often get whatever they want. They are very connected to the earth and are very comfortable in their own skin. They are never afraid or ashamed to completely indulge in their lusts and material desires, no matter how depraved or morally questionable. For them, there is no right and wrong, there is only want and don’t want.

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Mars in Capricorn is very very very horny. They live for their lusts. They are almost ruled by their lusts. When they lust for something, they usually get it. They usually are very well skilled at arranging things to their lustful benefit. It may take many many years, but they are patient and diligent and they will eventually consummate their desires. Their sex life can be the reason for their ruin. It sometimes overpowers them if they are not careful.

Unlike Mars in Scorpio, Mars in Capricorn can be a little more creepy about their constant horniness. They are not as selective as Scorpio and not always as emotionally attached to their lovers. They tend to objectify their lovers, they see them as a means to end, whereas scorpio connects with their lovers deeply even spiritually. Mars in Capricorn can be very promiscuous and may have little control over their urges. They can be very lecherous and depraved choosing any available body when they get the itch.

Usually though, they are not that crazy they’re just really horny. It is best that they find a relationship with someone who is equally horny and maybe a little twisted. They are extremely loyal in relationships with the right person who understands their needs. If they find the right person they will stay with them forever. They will take care of them and provide for them. They can be very old fashioned and they will provide for their wife and family until their dying breath. These types can be extremely kinky, twisted, and weird in bed and they need a partner that can roll with that without any judgement.

Sexually they usually have quite a lot of stamina. They can go for hours or days.


I have to say I knew a Cappie Mars who (in addition to not being concerned with material things beyond a certain practicality) refused to have sex with females he rescued (and I was one of them) because he didn't want us to think he did it only to get in our pants, but that we were people worth saving. Which was very sweet and not what that astrologer would expect (though I understand he was pretty kinky and he was into polyamory and had no trouble having full sexual relationships with more than one woman, including at the same time, and even attempted to become bisexual to have more sex but failed which is why he doesn't believe people have a choice about who they're attracted to). Of course our mars is only a fraction of who we are.

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posted April 07, 2015 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:

5. His taurus NN in5th , square Venus , quincunx AC
His mission in this life time is about 5th realm -sensible ,pleasure , beauty , all of earth materials with hardly emphasis by the square of venus and this confused him somehow or he couldn't see it clearly ( NN quincunx AC ) , so he may not dealing with it quite well.


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posted April 08, 2015 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
Going by this thread (and plenty of others) it sounds as if many people are driven so hard by their lusts and that masturbation isn't an option and they can't stop themselves. (Though that may be BS just like the ones who at least imply we're slave to our impulses like toddlers and therefore what we feel is what we do, and if I believed that then I'd say the age of adulthood should be 13 or even younger.)

Which raises the obvious (to me) question, if the sex drive is so incredibly powerful that it can scarcely be resisted (even if only by a large minority, though going by these astrological listings I'd say a majority) then why doesn't society adapt to it rather than shoot itself in the foot by being so stupid and selfish as to be filled with individuals who demand to be the sole object of attraction and lust when that's impossible?

Is it that selfishness is just as overpowering as lust? Or are we, as a society, just stupid that we can't help but find unnecessary ways to make our lives more painful than they have to be? (Don't forget that those pulled into such sordid affairs tend to suffer as well, and are also the only true innocents if there is such a thing in this case.)

(Though come to think of it, some societies past and present DO and have sexual relations that "don't signify" for a couple. Though typically women have it harder than men even today, but Japan seems fairly forgiving of both genders, at least in some circumstances. I've also learned that there are actually dating service for spouses wanting to cheat! Still, the last doesn't really count, after all it wouldn't be cheating if it were understood to be part of the arrangement, so that's just capitalist exploitation of what society refuses to deal with due to the innate selfishness and/or stupidity of its citizens.)


I really don't think being horny is the only thing that leads to cheating. Cheating can also be emotional and not about sex... I think actually it's mostly about emotions, rather than lust.

I think people are also cheating because they need approval, because they are emotionally troubled and sex is a good way to get some love. Many people also go to prostitutes not because of the sex only, but also because they can be intimate with someone.

So to say that it is JUST about sex, and that ONLY is not true I believe... there has to be something else to make a person go that extra mile and risk everything they have just for "sex".

And to put it astrologically, I believe it can be seen in the natal chart exactly why they are doing it, but for different reasons probably, and as individual as all peoples natal charts.

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posted April 26, 2015 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellygirl7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This cheating is due to the Sag heavy influence in the 12 house! Sag people have trouble believing in the concept of "tied down". So someone with this manifesting in the 12th might keep a secret lover or two

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posted April 27, 2015 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astra7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Uranus-venus conjunction +in sagitarious + in 12 house? say no more

I don't see Venus in 12th, Mercury conj. Uranus!

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LucieLemonade
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posted April 27, 2015 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he's just not made to be in a monogamous relationship and he should stop trying to kid himself and others.

And he should go find himself an open relation of some sort.

Although I wonder if have permission to see other people would make it not fun anymore.

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