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Enneline
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posted April 06, 2015 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally think anyone can be faithful if he really wants to but faithfullness comes easy for some and hard for others.

What aspects could indicate that someone will be having a hard time when being in a committed relationship?

this is the chart of a friend of mine (no, not my boyfriend and not my ex and no love interest)
He has cheated on EVERY SINGLE girlfriend so far. He would always have affairs while dating.
Now he's in a committed relationship. I think started seeing her 1-2 years ago and I was glad to see him staying faithful but recently he confessed me that he considers to leave or something since he feels bored and he starts to think about having an affair...

his chart:

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posted April 06, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for confusedaseff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe it's that venus in aquarius? i'm just assuming but from the people i met the big cheaters - like huge affairs that tear everything in their and their spouses and their kids lives apart .. have been quite aquarius heavy.

^ of course this is what i've seen in my life with the people in my life. theres probably heavy aquarius people that don't cheat.

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posted April 06, 2015 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I even looked at the chart I said, "this is sounding like an Aries Moon"

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posted April 06, 2015 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am an Aries moon and I have never cheated so far (i am 35)

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posted April 06, 2015 09:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to be "that" person but synastry is going to make all the difference in the world here.
Or at the very least it'll be a case by case taking into account the entire chart.
It's just one of those things.

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posted April 06, 2015 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I hate to be "that" person but synastry is going to make all the difference in the world here.

yeah, maybe he hasn't found Ms. Right yet but his unfaithfulness is really remarkable

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posted April 06, 2015 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah, they'll be exceptions! Not debating about your fidelity. But it's been very common for Aries Mooners to be "impulsive" in action and that includes cheating for sure. Selfish, self-gratification "in the moment" character flaw. And yes, I am an Aries Moon and I own my past.

Edit: Possibly that Pholus conjunct Moon. Venus conjunct Mars (bit wide out)

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posted April 06, 2015 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I hate to be "that" person but synastry is going to make all the difference in the world here.
Or at the very least it'll be a case by case taking into account the entire chart.
It's just one of those things.

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posted April 06, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LexusVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct mars people are highly sexual if they don't get it 10 times a day they will find a way to get it. And the trine to Pluto makes him even more so.

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posted April 06, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
Venus conjunct mars people are highly sexual if they don't get it 10 times a day they will find a way to get it. And the trine to Pluto makes him even more so.

One of my very best friends has venus/mars/pluto/juno in libra in 10h and while she is damned sexy she would never have an ONS or something and has lived without sex for years. Also, she is faithful

Ralph Fiennes supposedly cheated on every woman he had. Here's his chart:

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posted April 06, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could just be his mutuable descendant and ruler of the 7th conjunct Uranus.

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posted April 06, 2015 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What amazes me is that he's a Capricorn. But his AC helps on cheating I think. I also noticed a Mars Pluto trine (quite sexual oh GOD), and a wide Sun Neptune conjunction which probably makes him look for an idealised person, an illusion, and when he settles down in a relationship sees reality and makes him get bored.

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posted April 06, 2015 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Before I even looked at the chart I said, "this is sounding like an Aries Moon"

tsk tsk tsk

aries mooners can be very committed

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posted April 06, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
North node in 5th house and 7th house! From my personal observation and i myself have north node in 7th

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posted April 06, 2015 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:
I personally think anyone can be faithful if he really wants to but faithfullness comes easy for some and hard for others.

What aspects could indicate that someone will be having a hard time when being in a committed relationship?

this is the chart of a friend of mine (no, not my boyfriend and not my ex and no love interest)
He has cheated on EVERY SINGLE girlfriend so far. He would always have affairs while dating.
Now he's in a committed relationship. I think started seeing her 1-2 years ago and I was glad to see him staying faithful but recently he confessed me that he considers to leave or something since he feels bored and he starts to think about having an affair...

his chart:


Uranus-venus conjunction +in sagitarious + in 12 house? say no more

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posted April 06, 2015 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Before I even looked at the chart I said, "this is sounding like an Aries Moon"

the aries moon trine the mercury-uranus conjunction from 12 house... i dont think the moon in aries itself is a sign of cheating, but this person needs the extra thrill.. moon in aries, aspecting uranus in sagitarios, from 12 house.. venus-mars in aquarius... i agree with the aquarious thing...

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posted April 06, 2015 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my life every water moon I've been with has cheated. No more water moons for this girly.

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posted April 06, 2015 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in his 12th house with Jupiter in his 1st. Can't say why he gets bored, but he wants it all and he wants fun.

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posted April 06, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Neptune in the 1st. It may not be that he actively goes to find women to cheat with (I mean, of course he makes a choice now but ...) opportunities just come to him in a way. He comes off gentle and pleasing, innocent even. I can see women eating that right up.

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posted April 06, 2015 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit- Added the chart below with progressions and some asteroids.

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PixieJane
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posted April 06, 2015 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone add progressions?

Because I'm curious about why some people start off as cheaters and then grow up while others are faithful when they're young but become cheaters as they get older. (I've heard reasons from those who have, but not astrological ones.)

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posted April 06, 2015 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a chart example of someone who had a hard time being faithful in a committed relationship. (with progressions)

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posted April 07, 2015 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To tell you frankly , if you don't tell me that he is a cheater , I would not jump any kind of conclusion from his chart .

Infact , I think this is not a typical cheater chart but could this from how he was raised? And how he value toward family and lover?

If you tell me that he is a cheater , I could tell that his chart is very interesting and it is the hard one to interpret by looking at first glimpse.

Imho,
I don't think only venus in aqua and aries moon should have a reputation for cheaters , there should be more affected this then we could make the interpretation .

1. Venus - mars
- i don't think his venus conjunct mars because orb is too wide = 9 degree? And it's not the same sign either. Atleast if you think it is conjunct , should it be in the same sigh ? That two planets can have the same energy?

2. Venus - moon/pholus - saturn
- his venus is exactly square saturn (8 minutes!) and his moon/pholus quincunx saturn . Quincunx is really an internal conflict aspect , you couldn't see it directly like the opposition or square.
The 2 important love planets is malefic by saturn , this could bring anyone living in formidable fear in relationship . He could act as fear for his lost when in love or else in an opposite way , dump everyone before they hurt you as this might help regaining his security .

Infidelity could be his opponent from fear of lost love or low esteem?

3. Jupiter couldn't help and pholus stimulate it..
- in his case , Jupiter might not help the moon (square) . It could make the moon more inflate, too optimist . And Pholus exlode everything it touch , exactly on his moon . Make this situation more unstable . And jupiter seems to help saturn doing his jobs very well !

There should be a total chaos from jupiter here.

4. uranus stray the moon
- there are the unstable energy from uranus to the moon . Although it is a nice Trine , but with the square of jupiter and explode by pholus here , the moon is really unstable .
- the uranus conjunct mercury , which make it tough for his intellectual and moreover mercury is his 7th Ruler of marriage.

5. His taurus NN in5th , square Venus , quincunx AC
His mission in this life time is about 5th realm -sensible ,pleasure , beauty , all of earth materials with hardly emphasis by the square of venus and this confused him somehow or he couldn't see it clearly ( NN quincunx AC ) , so he may not dealing with it quite well.

The sub-conscious dynamic why this realm is important for him in this life ,might be from his past- life restriction? ( his SN conjunct saturn in scorpio) ?


Now here, I see the flamboyant soul with unstable mind and intellectual who fear for love that think infidelity could bring his lack of self-esteem back .

I don't think he 's born as a cheater/player but all of his infidelity driven by his insecurity.


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Another thread that is very interesting for study , the polyamory chart . This is a born-to-be
I make a criteria conclusion in page4 http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/229547.html

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posted April 07, 2015 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by themischievousone:
Here's a chart example of someone who had a hard time being faithful in a committed relationship. (with progressions)


I think this one might have a tendency to be polyamory , look at the thread descussion below , so interesting . http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/229547.html

1. heavy negative Venus activity : by Jupiter and /or Uranus
- square /opposed by Jupiter , which over- indulge the venus in love life.
- square /opposed by Uranus , needless to say .

2. Heavy load 5th house : especially personal planets in here and /or Jupiter , Uranus, neptune

3. Uranian character : strong uranian type ( Uranus aspect to any 4 angles, sun , in 1st House, vertex , Node ) and also uranus aspect to love planets ( moon, venus, mars) in natal .

In my personal idea , Heavy load in 7th H alone without others criteria (1,2,3) might not show as polyamory but multiple marriage could be consider .

I think for the awareness of the polyamory , should have 2 out of 3 from list above .

For me , I can accept polyamory as long as it's not cheating .

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posted April 07, 2015 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
I think this one might have a tendency to be polyamory , look at the thread descussion below , so interesting . http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/229547.html

Interesting. That sounds about right.

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