posted April 06, 2015 11:44 PM            

1.) very picky and indecisive with food and drink
2.) quietly vengeful. Often I wish I was a goddess of karma. I will wish hard bad karma on people I feel deserve it justifiably or take charge and bring their karma to them myself by getting them back in a discreet way.
3.) can become a bully when on REALLY bad terms with a person and provoked
4.) calm but the scales always waiver
5.) love of libran fashion sense. The elegance, neutral tones, long hair, matte lipstick (which sometimes conflicts my Leo Venus and wanting to dye my hair light colors blonde like the sun and west bright patterned clothing)
6.) indecisive
7.) wants peace but will battle it out

posted April 07, 2015 12:20 AM            

A ex Leo friend of mine who had this Mars once said to me after I answered a catcall by telling the guy to f*** off, that if the guy had come at me to beat me or smth she'd just step away and pretend she didn't know me lol.

posted April 07, 2015 03:15 AM            

As for the other...the negative side of Libra can be one who wants to punish others over promoting harmony (that is harmony takes a back seat) though the only Libra sun I personally knew who was like that had a lot of Scorpio to her chart (stellium and rising, I don't have her birth chart so I can't look it up but most of her planets were in Scorpio, so her Mars probably was as well--but she could be so passive aggressive that avoided direct confrontation until it reached a boiling point that maybe it was Libra). I did know one Libra sun who had been a vigilante (I forget his Mars offhand) but even his primary interest was in saving the innocent over punishing the guilty.

I imagine what is happening is that your Gemini moon and Libra Mars is pushing you to act and involve yourself but your Virgo sun (along with Libra Mars carefully considering which can thus become indecisive) is reining you in which builds incredible tension and thus the anger and self-doubt you have (while at the same time adding to your desire to be helpful and thus feeling bad about not acting out if you believe an injustice is being done). (And that's just based on what you shared, the rest of your chart would likely show even more.)

It should be noted that a sincere desire to be just does not automatically make any actions based on that sincere belief a just action. More importantly, if karma is real then it needs no help from you, and all your trying to "speed it up" is likely to do is dump bad karma on you, likely putting you in a vicious circle as few people ever question their own bad karma but rather see themselves as the innocent victim and keep lashing out at others and the world (this is also true if you see karma as an amoral force like gravity as I do as it is if you see it as a force imbued with human morality and ethics as many others do).

posted April 07, 2015 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
IMO this is the worst Mars one can have.
And the worst Libra placement.

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posted April 07, 2015 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by midnightvenus:
IMO this is the worst Mars one can have.
And the worst Libra placement.

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Agree.

Why is that?

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posted April 07, 2015 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by indigomoon8:
I just wanted a little info on it. How are Mars in libra natives? I am a Virgo sun Gemini moon libra Mars. Does anyone agree with these personality traits I blame on my Mars in libra

1.) very picky and indecisive with food and drink
2.) quietly vengeful. Often I wish I was a goddess of karma. I will wish hard bad karma on people I feel deserve it justifiably or take charge and bring their karma to them myself by getting them back in a discreet way.
3.) can become a bully when on REALLY bad terms with a person and provoked
4.) calm but the scales always waiver
5.) love of libran fashion sense. The elegance, neutral tones, long hair, matte lipstick (which sometimes conflicts my Leo Venus and wanting to dye my hair light colors blonde like the sun and west bright patterned clothing)
6.) indecisive
7.) wants peace but will battle it out

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These fit, I think. It's also a "military", strategist, militant Mars. Very diplomatic, but fearless to enter one-to-one battles when necessary. Many famous "warriors" and peace fighters have this placement. Being in Libra, it's a one-to-one Mars in general.

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posted April 07, 2015 12:30 PM            

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posted April 07, 2015 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
These fit, I think. It's also a "military", strategist, militant Mars. Very diplomatic, but fearless to enter one-to-one battles when necessary. Many famous "warriors" and peace fighters have this placement. Being in Libra, it's a one-to-one Mars in general.

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That sounds like me. Mars in cancers, paired with Aries sun seems to hate me. All three people in the world I really dislike is sun Aries mars cancer.

posted April 07, 2015 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by indigomoon8:
I just wanted a little info on it. How are Mars in libra natives? I am a Virgo sun Gemini moon libra Mars. Does anyone agree with these personality traits I blame on my Mars in libra

1.) very picky and indecisive with food and drink

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No.

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2.) quietly vengeful. Often I wish I was a goddess of karma. I will wish hard bad karma on people I feel deserve it justifiably or take charge and bring their karma to them myself by getting them back in a discreet way.

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No.

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3.) can become a bully when on REALLY bad terms with a person and provoked

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No.

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4.) calm but the scales always waiver

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Yes.

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5.) love of libran fashion sense. The elegance, neutral tones, long hair, matte lipstick (which sometimes conflicts my Leo Venus and wanting to dye my hair light colors blonde like the sun and west bright patterned clothing)

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No.

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6.) indecisive

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Yes.

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7.) wants peace but will battle it out

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As was said above. I will battle it out if I have to. But I prefer to find another way. I’m a Sag too, so I can’t really get worked up about a lot of things. If you REALLY need to have xyz then fine. You can have xyz. I’m not going to fight you over it.

But don’t take my laid back attitude to mean you can push me around and abuse me. That is NOT going to happen.

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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
[B]All Libra Mars people I knew were cowards.

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No.

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They might hold grudges, but they never took revenge.

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I don’t hold grudges. Why should I? Life it too short for grudges or revenge. I don’t have time for it.

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They'd actually remain friends with people who "wronged" them.

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It depends on how they “wronged” me....

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They'd rather complain about them to friends in common than to just confront and face whatever it was that bothered them.

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No. I don’t bother complaining about friends either. And it depends on what it is if it’s worth “confronting” someone about something. Mars in Libra are not confrontational unless we have to be.

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They'd do everything to avoid confrontation. I read this is quite a Libra Mars trait.

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Yes. It’s called diplomacy and being a grown up. Some people love the drama of “confrontation”. I don’t. If there is a real problem then I'll deal with it like an adult. If I know the "friend" is a drama queen, I'm not going to bother becuase I don't want see him/her kick off.

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A ex Leo friend of mine who had this Mars once said to me after I answered a catcall by telling the guy to f*** off, that if the guy had come at me to beat me or smth she'd just step away and pretend she didn't know me lol.

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Ok. So you tell someone to F off and you want to me to save your a$$ when he comes to beat the crap out of you.... Really? Mars Libras wouldn’t tell the guy to F off. They would walk away and ignore the cat calling. Why cause the drama?

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Please don't take it personally but, IMO this is the worst Mars one can have.
And the worst Libra placement.

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posted April 07, 2015 02:13 PM            

Where I become indecisive and "Libran" is when I have an idea and I know it's good, but I'll mull over it a few days to make absolutely sure that it's what I want to do.

posted April 07, 2015 02:19 PM            

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1.) very picky and indecisive with food and drink

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Yes. An ex told me when he was a boy his father used to take him and his brother and sister out for pizza. He took one look at it and decided he didn't like it. Years later, he actually tasted pizza and loved it. Then he got angry thinking about all the times he missed out! As an adult, he wouldn't eat vegetables.

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2.) quietly vengeful. Often I wish I was a goddess of karma. I will wish hard bad karma on people I feel deserve it justifiably or take charge and bring their karma to them myself by getting them back in a discreet way.

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No. I've only known men, but I've known several with this placement.

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3.) can become a bully when on REALLY bad terms with a person and provoked

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When they get angry, I've found them to be passive/aggressive, but bully, no. I wonder if this trait has to do with aspects to your Mars.

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4.) calm but the scales always waiver

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Don't know.

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5.) love of libran fashion sense. The elegance, neutral tones, long hair, matte lipstick (which sometimes conflicts my Leo Venus and wanting to dye my hair light colors blonde like the sun and west bright patterned clothing)

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I haven't known women with this placement, but the two out of three men I knew were oblivious of fashion. One used to pick clothes for me. He had good taste.

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6.) indecisive

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I haven't found this to be true, but these could be exceptions.

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7.) wants peace but will battle it out

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What I've seen is that peace, equality, and justice motivates Mars in Libra to fight. Generally, they don't like confrontation - Mars is in detriment in this sign. The fight is on the mental level and/or with words, not physical. It's too refined and civilized for knock down, drag out fights. I think this is a good placement for a lawyer or someone who debates.

posted April 07, 2015 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:

Mars in Libra is very charming, refined, and romantic. Love and relationship are very important to them. They prefer having a partner rather than being alone and are very aware of gender issues.

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We do fight to death and turn from best friends to worst enemies all Libra Marses I know are the kind to interfere in a conflict in the street where everyone fears to intervene or the first to jump in a stormy sea to save an unknown fellow, so everyone calling Mars in Libra cowards, think again! and check the famous Mars in Libra people and what they stand for.

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posted April 07, 2015 10:48 PM            

My only criticism is that they're slow to action and we all know why. But once they make that choice, and they have some fixed signs on their sun/moon/ASC they can be fairly stubborn about their choice. But all the deliberation does make for a well thought out choice and you will be heard before action. It's a good trait for some scenarios and a bad trait for other scenarios.

posted April 07, 2015 11:00 PM            

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Originally posted by indigomoon8:
I just wanted a little info on it. How are Mars in libra natives? I am a Virgo sun Gemini moon libra Mars. Does anyone agree with these personality traits I blame on my Mars in libra

1.) very picky and indecisive with food and drink
2.) quietly vengeful. Often I wish I was a goddess of karma. I will wish hard bad karma on people I feel deserve it justifiably or take charge and bring their karma to them myself by getting them back in a discreet way.
3.) can become a bully when on REALLY bad terms with a person and provoked
4.) calm but the scales always waiver
5.) love of libran fashion sense. The elegance, neutral tones, long hair, matte lipstick (which sometimes conflicts my Leo Venus and wanting to dye my hair light colors blonde like the sun and west bright patterned clothing)
6.) indecisive
7.) wants peace but will battle it out

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posted April 08, 2015 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
You guys need to make up your minds, we're either passive/aggressive or we're bullies..so which is it? lol

I'm starting to think the difference is in what aspects the Mars is making and I'll even go as far as saying what house it's in makes a difference too.

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It can be both. An example of passive aggressive bullying would be pretending to be wanting to help but intentionally giving wrong information, or saying "you should join me and my friends" only to pretend such an invite was never given and the group excludes (because the passive aggressive bully has already poisoned them against the target). Another way is to speak loudly to someone else intending for the victim to hear which will denigrate the person somehow but isn't talking TOO the person and if the person says something the bully can claim she was just eavesdropping on a private conversation.

A less passive but still not overt manner is to start rumors and rile up others to bully for the person.

There are many ways to bully, and many reasons for it, and can range from cyberbullying or leaving nasty messages on someone's locker or workspace to cruel pranks (pulling the chair out from someone so they fall on the floor kind) to just moving (so if someone sits at a table everyone else leaves) to direct confrontation. But let me take the time to specify that by bullying I mean someone who sets out to repeatedly demean someone for a variety of reasons (which may include "because the person deserves it") as opposed to someone who is just grouchy, has rude humor, or just happens to make others feel insecure (without meaning to).