posted November 19, 2019 07:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Square-I am irritable.
Opposition-Other people irritate me.

Either way you look at it, someone will get a slap.Hard

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posted November 19, 2019 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Square-I am irritable.
Opposition-Other people irritate me.

Either way you look at it, someone will get a slap.Hard

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Sounds about right. My chart has 3 major oppositions.
Sun opposite mars Taurus and scorpio
Venus opposite Saturn taurus and scorpio
Mercury opposite moon/Pluto aries and libra/scorpio
Definitely not signs you want to be pushing buttons around

posted November 19, 2019 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:

The question is "where?"

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posted November 19, 2019 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Sounds about right. My chart has 3 major oppositions.
Sun opposite mars Taurus and scorpio
Venus opposite Saturn taurus and scorpio
Mercury opposite moon/Pluto aries and libra/scorpio
Definitely not signs you want to be pushing buttons around

When I was younger it was really hard to deal with day to day things and people. It's not as bad now but I still find myself getting easily irritated if there's too much going on from too many people. My motto is "leave me tf alone" and people take me very seriously about that now.

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I am like this too. Maybe that's why I find relationships hard? I get so easily irritated by someone/something my mate may say or do.

I think its a type of wound tbh. And i think that other people touch it unawares and that results in the violent reactions. Otherwise they really don't mean to.

I have Juno in Aries opp Mars- opp Pluto. Juno is actually =Mars/Pluto midpoint. Will my marriage be explosive? Who knows?

All I know is that I am in no rush to get into marriage with anyone. Sometimes the sexual impulse/lust will have me think "maybe I should get someone?"

posted November 19, 2019 03:42 PM            

I find that most of the time internally I'm teetering between the oppositions, learning how to meet in the middle so to speak and one planet's requirements must be met before the other will come out to meet.
For example, Venus opposite Saturn plays out in two ways. In a relationship, the other person has to show that they're worthy of my respect. I deeply care about what kind of morals this person holds and how often they stand and live by said morals. I can't tolerate a hypocrite. That's Saturn in scorpio, and my lovely taurus venus will refuse to be shown unless Saturn is met first.

Internally the struggle is the same but turned into myself (retrograde Saturn). I need to stay as true to myself as possible and I've always held myself to a high moral standard or I'll easily lose my own respect. Guilt would eat me alive if I lost my integrity. I've read this aspect is known for having really high, maybe unrealistic standards. True, I gots no time for bs, not even my own.

I still blame my Uranus in the 7H for a lot of my relationship issues but all of the oppositions definitely lend their hand to how I act when I'm with someone too.

posted November 19, 2019 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Right in the kisser

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posted November 20, 2019 12:14 AM            

Dons2angelss, Aries23Degrees (and anyone else)..

Are you able to describe if you can, the dynamics when someone squares the opposition?

Is it uncomfortable for you? Stressful, holding the flow back maybe?

Or is it exciting, interesting, stabilising, fun/dynamic?

As perhaps compared to sextile/trine.. which of course might be nicer.

*I also have this question in relationships forum but it's hard to find people with many oppositions to answer or explore this.

Would you mind providing your musings please?

posted November 20, 2019 03:07 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Aries23Degrees - a good way of distinguishing these.

Dons2angelss, Aries23Degrees (and anyone else)..

Are you able to describe if you can, the dynamics when someone squares the opposition?

Is it uncomfortable for you? Stressful, holding the flow back maybe?

Or is it exciting, interesting, stabilising, fun/dynamic?

As perhaps compared to sextile/trine.. which of course might be nicer.

*I also have this question in relationships forum but it's hard to find people with many oppositions to answer or explore this.

Would you mind providing your musings please?

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posted November 20, 2019 04:41 AM            

thanks muchly for chiming in

I must say, this comes at some surprise as a sextile/trine would be smoother?

The square would add more tension to something already tense.

Theoretically.

Are you able to elaborate as to WHY this is ok and even (surprise) "very ok"?

posted November 20, 2019 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hi Charlie,

thanks muchly for chiming in

I must say, this comes at some surprise as a sextile/trine would be smoother?

The square would add more tension to something already tense.

Theoretically.

Are you able to elaborate as to WHY this is ok and even (surprise) "very ok"?

How fascinating.. thanks once again.

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I just think that Libra and Aries are “soothing” for me and Cancer/Cap (my sun, Venus, Mercury and moon) are grating and exhausting! I am already exhausted by my opposition as I swing back and forth with seemingly no control so I don’t need anything right there that makes it worse. And to be specific: it’s always been Libra WOMEN and Aries MEN that’s filled my life.
Almost all my female friends have been Libra and most of the men I’ve dated (am now married to an Aries) have had either Aries Sun/Moon or Venus + Mercury in Aries.

posted November 21, 2019 02:46 PM            

With oppositions, there's just no middle ground-only agreeing to disagree and getting along on that basis alone. This can be balancing or polarizing.

posted November 22, 2019 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Aries23Degrees - a good way of distinguishing these.

Dons2angelss, Aries23Degrees (and anyone else)..

Are you able to describe if you can, the dynamics when someone squares the opposition?

Is it uncomfortable for you? Stressful, holding the flow back maybe?

Or is it exciting, interesting, stabilising, fun/dynamic?

As perhaps compared to sextile/trine.. which of course might be nicer.

*I also have this question in relationships forum but it's hard to find people with many oppositions to answer or explore this.

Would you mind providing your musings please?

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The square tends to bring a bottomless pit of "hunger". And the hunger for challenge,danger,strife,solving puzzles etc. It is very much an energy that is very dynamic. Its like a SWAT team or BOMB squad.It is thrilled by situations that are baffling or seem like a "lost cause".

So depending on the house,sign and planet involved,the energy will be invested either productively in those life area.Or destructively too.

When the square involves the Moon, there is an emotional longing for challenges. One needs them to feel emotionally fulfilled(this especially when in Tau, Virgo, Can)

A square to a Moon in Tau for instance may find much emotional(Moon) security(Tau) from the challenges.

When the square involves Merc,the mind preoccupies itself with thinking. Insomnia usually results because of a restless mind.Or the native can be inventive/scientific or resourceful(for good or ill). This especially when in Gem,Virgo,Aqua.

A square to Mercury in Aqua for instance, may propell the native towards invention or outright rebellion and anarchy.Always thinking of ways to break an existing system-like a hacker.Or invent one the surpasses predecessors.

So since the square comes from Mars in my case,it exacerbates this energy for challenges(other planets that add on to the squares need for challenges are Plu/Ura). The native will literally "look" for things to fix/make better or even break for the thrill of repairing them.

My Mars in Libra is in the 6th. The 6th is the house of strife,problems and puzzles to be solved etc.And so Mars in 6th likes to solve problems or invests energy to do it. Loves to "conquer" and find solutions here etc. This especially when in Cap,Sco,Aries

My Mars in Libra suggests that I like mental(Lib) problems or to solve issues using mental faculties(air) rather than strength of might(Arie) conviction of emotions(Sco) or strict adherence to rules(Cap).

So I find emotional comfort(Moon in Cancer square) through finding solutions(Mars)) to intellectual(Libra) problems(6th)

I also find mental(Mercury) authority/prestige or advancement(Cap) in delving into problems(6th) that require mental(Libra) assertion(Mars).

Its no wonder I am mentally obsessive. And the subsequent transit of Pluto Cap conj Mercury exact was a NIGHTMARE-I couldn't sleep at all.Mind too busy.

Mercury is the dominant planet in my chart. I am literally MENTAL!!

posted November 23, 2019 06:18 AM            

But I don't know why you quoted me?

posted November 23, 2019 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Aries.. that's a lovely (systematic ) breakdown!

But I don't know why you quoted me?

My question is one of synastry! When a person squares someones opposition, lol.

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oh ok.I see.I thought u meant in the natal.

I think it would work in a similar manner tbh.

My experience with Sun/Moon and Mars on Libra squaring those planets has been positive.They bring the intellectual curiousity.We open up stuff and debate back/forth.

I haven't had much of the Aries experience though.That would be interesting to note.My guess is that they would bring a clarity of issues -this whether Sun/Moon or Mars in Aries.

I live with an Aries Ven and she can be refreshingly clear when things get too intellectually foggy.Its like a spear travelling in the sky to meet its target amongst a dozen of soldiers.

The downside is that at times the view can be too simolistic and ill aware of the subtleties at play until they unwittingly step on one. Much like a minefield....BOOM!!!

posted November 23, 2019 06:38 PM            

Kannon McAfee, what you say seems to definitely be the consensus.

With my squares.. I am beginning to understand how they can feel tense to other people. Sometimes I am considered angry by people that do not know me. Yet, I am not. Generally I am mulling complex things over in my head, and/or planning things.

I can understand that it may feel intense.. But to say that it's angry is so boring because of it's overly simplistic deduction. Emotions, and people are much more complex anyhow. And I guess then, so are squares (if that's what people are tuning into, with me).

I find it so interesting to compare because I don't really have oppositions. But from time to time I am making a square (t-squaring) someone else's.

posted November 24, 2019 07:12 PM            

In my own chart I have a tsquare that is smoothed by trines and sextiles with its elements, then a Sun and Neptune square. I have an Aries stellium.
I’ve met people with Libra Sun, Venus or Mercury or more, and I actually like them. My Juno is in Libra. I find them charming, charismatic, although sometimes a bit more passive.

With square signs, Cancers are like friends to me (11th house). Capricorns I don’t really get too along, I find them cold even if they are very capable. I also tend to be too emotional for them I guess.
Since my chart has planets spread in fire, earth signs mostly and then water and air, I can relate in a way to different elements. Although Scorpio Moons seems too intense for me even if I have a 8th house Moon (quincunx sign).