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Topic: Venus square pluto people, do you attract females with serious jealousy issues?
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Dreaminess
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posted April 17, 2015 06:55 PM
  
Up the years i have dealt with females with serious jealousy issues, its so bad that i honestly think they should seek help for it. And this aspect i think is why i have attracted females like that to me. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted April 17, 2015 08:01 PM
Are females allowed to comment?  joking.I have Venus square Pluto and I attract stalkers. I wouldn't mind it so much, but it's never the guy I want to stalk me, that's stalking me. I'm like, where the heck did you come from? I used to be jealous. Now I turn it on and off. If he thinks it's sexy, I'm jealous. If he doesn't, I'm not. I'm always possessive. What's mine is mine. Even if I'm sharing, once what's mine has been identified, it's mine. I don't see jealousy and possessiveness as the same. In jealousy, I act out. Where what's mine is concerned, be ready for war. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze
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posted April 17, 2015 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
but it's never the guy I want to stalk me, that's stalking me.
Wait, what? ------------------
Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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From: norway
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posted April 17, 2015 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Are females allowed to comment? joking.I have Venus square Pluto and I attract stalkers. I wouldn't mind it so much, but it's never the guy I want to stalk me, that's stalking me. I'm like, where the heck did you come from? I used to be jealous. Now I turn it on and off. If he thinks it's sexy, I'm jealous. If he doesn't, I'm not. I'm always possessive. What's mine is mine. Even if I'm sharing, once what's mine has been identified, it's mine. I don't see jealousy and possessiveness as the same. In jealousy, I act out. Where what's mine is concerned, be ready for war.
I to am a female. What i meant with my question wasen`t to men only, what i meant with it was that do venus square pluto people have a tendency to attract people esp females that have major jealousy issues bc i have experienced this up the years through female friends and stuff and feel this aspect might be the reason why i attract those kind of females to me.
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venus2tinkerbell
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posted April 17, 2015 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
Wait, what?
Is it poorly written or is the idea just "huh?"
It's both. I'll explain. The roses left on my car at the post office, library, and store clearly show that I am being followed. And I just know who it is. It's Johnny, the man I fell in love with yesterday. I instantly loved his dark intensity, and his mysterious nature. I knew there was so much more going on underneath the surface that he just can't express, and that's why he's following me all over town, while I run my errands, leaving roses on the car, right? Wrong. It's the FedEx guy, who mistook my cheerful greeting when he delivered my package, for an invitation to share eternal, undying love in this life and the next (if necessary). For me Venus square Pluto has been about ridiculous fantasies and obsessions- other people's and my own. I have been going through some major Pluto transits though, so I'm hoping to evolve. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted April 17, 2015 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
I to am a female. What i meant with my question wasen`t to men only, what i meant with it was that do venus square pluto people have a tendency to attract people esp females that have major jealousy issues bc i have experienced this up the years through female friends and stuff and feel this aspect might be the reason why i attract those kind of females to me.
Oh so is it romantic jealousy or women jealous of what you have (who you are)? IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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From: norway
Registered: Aug 2014
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posted April 17, 2015 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Oh so is it romantic jealousy or women jealous of what you have (who you are)?
Its more about being jealous of what i have, what i accomplish that they can actually accomplish themselves but their just too lasy and weak to do it and ends up getting jealous when i can, just anything can trigger their jealous sides its ridiculous. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted April 17, 2015 09:39 PM
hmmm. Interesting. I was searching for something like jealousy in my interactions with women...all I can say is I don't have normal relationships with women. When I was a teenager and in my 20s there was jealousy. My relationships with women involved either jealousy and hate, or love that was so intense and devoted it might have been observed by outsiders as romantic love. I seem to remember more than one occasion standing in the rain across from one of my girlfriends while we cried about how much we loved each other- lol. I used to hold hands with my friends. We'd cuddle, hold each other, sit on each others laps. We were very intimate. I had the haters, but more lovers, and these were friendships, not romantic love.These days, I have two female friends my own age. The rest are my mother's age. I think that has more to do with my life choices, though. So I can't really say I experience a lot of jealousy from women, but I have never had the traditional "girlfriend". I don't have normal relationships with women. IP: Logged |
sis
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posted April 17, 2015 11:15 PM
I have Venus square Pluto. As far as I know no serious jeaolusy issues from women towards me. But I do best not to raise jeaolusy. I am very intimate with my female friends but also with my male friends. Apart from usual Venus Pluto square effects; obssesion, dark love, fear of partnering, loosing control etc.. Men are sexually attracted to me. As if I am a sexual magnet... Majority of my friends boyfriends somehow thought I would be ok with it. Until I threw them my Saturnian moves... I swear I don't flirt with them, I don't do anything that can midlead them. Quite the opposite indeed. I have Mars sextile Pluto as well.. I am not complaining about being sexually attractive but don't like the fact that they think they might get what they want... IP: Logged |
Iced8Ace
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From: CA
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posted April 17, 2015 11:23 PM
I always attract guys who are:A) Already in a relationship & are obsessed w/ me and want to cheat B) Want to "claim" me but don't want a relationship C)Stalk me constantly and never want to admit feelings ^All why I'm single. IP: Logged |
sis
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posted April 17, 2015 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
I always attract guys who are:A) Already in a relationship & are obsessed w/ me and want to cheat B) Want to "claim" me but don't want a relationship C)Stalk me constantly and never want to admit feelings ^All why I'm single.
ahah %100 same with me !
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Aries23Degrees
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posted April 17, 2015 11:51 PM
I think everything starts from the Moon.As the Moon is the "base" of expression. It's where we 1st learn about relating to the "other". Afflicted Moon in both sexes often suggest an insecure person. Afflicted Moon in males often suggest a difficult relationship with a maternal figure -which can result in emotional repression/emotional over-compensation. Both very destructive. Men with afflictions to the Moon often attract people whom they expect to fulfill the Moon's sign role-as time goes on. For good or ill. Women with afflictions to Moon tend to be insecure about their identity/ what it means to be this particular sex in this physical body? etc. These women often have challenging relationships with maternal figures and will seek to either repress/overcompensate their emotional nature when dealing with others. They can attract really needy,clingy and emotionally crippled people on one end. Or cold, distant, uncaring, undemonstrative people on the other. How they respond to these people that they attract to them will depend on their response to the affliction to the moon i.e Are they suppressing or are they over-compensating? Venus is the preferences of the experiences that we would like to have. Often denoted form whatever resolutions we take from our subjective experience(Moon). For good or ill. If there are afflictions to Venus, we can seek to suppress/overcompensate those experiences that we deem pleasurable/desirable. It may sound odd to say that one may seek to suppress something that is "pleasurable". But if we are to view it from the standpoint of someone who has suffered a broken heart, it makes sense: in their minds it is better to "suppress" and starve oneself of that "illusion" that may eventually bring on hurt,guilt or pain. This individual may look to standardize/even "castrate" themselves from these things. Fearing that the "high" won't last and that the inevitable "low" is too painful/long lasting etc. So it's just not worth the risk. A man with afflicted Venus often denies himself the true joys of meaningful affection and love:Either through overcompensation (obsessions/promiscuity) or outright denial(detaching from others/ seeking excessive freedom). A woman with afflicted Venus often denies herself the true joys of meaningful affection and love:Either through withholding affection,self condemnation; "I am not beautiful,moral, classy "fill in the blank" enough" etc. Or she may deny it also through overcompensation "I am beautiful and everyone wants to be with me" promiscuity,mistaking sex for affection etc. In must also be noted that either can apply to both sexes. It is not only women who appraise their self-worth with physical beauty.Men do too. But the theme with both sexes here is the same; that underneath all that "bravado", is a person who doesn't know what it is like to be loved just for being themselves. It all starts with the Moon.The fear of a broken heart; either imagined or real from what one observed or subjectively experienced in their past. IP: Logged |
LexusVirgo
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posted April 18, 2015 12:03 AM
I have Venus square Pluto exact when I was young I had two friends that were girls that did mean stuff to me because the wanted my eyes. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 18, 2015 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Is it poorly written or is the idea just "huh?"It's both. I'll explain. The roses left on my car at the post office, library, and store clearly show that I am being followed. And I just know who it is. It's Johnny, the man I fell in love with yesterday. I instantly loved his dark intensity, and his mysterious nature. I knew there was so much more going on underneath the surface that he just can't express, and that's why he's following me all over town, while I run my errands, leaving roses on the car, right? Wrong. It's the FedEx guy, who mistook my cheerful greeting when he delivered my package, for an invitation to share eternal, undying love in this life and the next (if necessary). For me Venus square Pluto has been about ridiculous fantasies and obsessions- other people's and my own. I have been going through some major Pluto transits though, so I'm hoping to evolve.
Lol!!! I have Venus conjunct Pluto, on AC....I get this!! Why just once can't it be the guy you want it to be?? Lol IP: Logged |
Ayelet
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posted April 18, 2015 12:14 AM
Aries23Degrees, you are quite right. I have venus square pluto too. It's true about the supression and over-compensation. For me.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted April 18, 2015 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by Iced8Ace:
I always attract guys who are:A) Already in a relationship & are obsessed w/ me and want to cheat B) Want to "claim" me but don't want a relationship C)Stalk me constantly and never want to admit feelings ^All why I'm single.
I get this also!! I'm so sick of guys lying about or pretending not to be attached just so they can flirt and try to get something, I don't know what exactly, from me!
They will cheat, but I won't...I will never be part of a love triangle. IP: Logged |
SaturnFan
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posted April 18, 2015 02:30 AM
Yep, this has been true for me, along with very odd and intense attitudes from men too (not just romantic ones). My Venus conjuncts AC exact, and forms a t-square with Pluto and the Moon (Pluto and Moon are in opposition, Venus/ AC squares them both). Venus-Pluto is very intense, so until you acknowledge, accept and integrate your own intensity into your consciousness, you will attract negative intensity from the external world. I'm still working on that for myself, but even acknowledging I need to do it has significantly stabilised my external world One of the forum members here, the89freespirit, has a brilliant article on his blog about Venus-Pluto aspects - I strongly recommend it: Venus-Pluto Aspects There's also an amazing book called "Descent to the Goddess", which another forum member - peony, recommended to me a while ago when we were discussing my t-square. It puts a great perspective on integrating unconscious but powerful and intense aspects of your self (=Pluto) into your conscious reality. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted April 18, 2015 02:32 AM
Wait, so afflicted Moon or Venus to Pluto will attract territorial guys? (the ones that want to tame you), or at least that energy?IP: Logged |
SaturnFan
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posted April 18, 2015 02:40 AM
hannaramaa, yes this could be one manifestation of it.Another one could be the opposite - it could attract weak people, who allow you or even want you to exercise your power over them and control them. It depends on how aware are you of your personal intensity and what sense you make of it, I think. Also, it's almost never one-or-the-other, but a combination of both. Personally, I've attracted strong controlling individuals as friends, mentors, colleagues etc. But in my romantic relationships, I've mostly attracted weak people, who wanted to be taken care of and refused to take responsibility for their life. I've had openly domineering types fall for me, but never had a relationship with one. But weak-willed people who expect to be taken care of are domineering in their own, passive way. It was all because I was completely unaware of my personal power, so external events were teaching me what it meant. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted April 18, 2015 07:10 AM
Yes.
I have very few female friends for this reason.
There has also been outright aversion, and instant negativity from females on first meetings.Males as friends have been excellent. IP: Logged |
Virgo28
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posted April 18, 2015 07:34 AM
Do you attract females with serious issues?Always.... After awhile you start thinking like "Ok, you're so nice BUT what are you hiding" People with this aspect make others act way out of character. ------------------
"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted April 18, 2015 10:19 AM
I dated someone with Sun square Pluto and Venus square Pluto. He was an Aquarius with Venus and Mars in Aquarius. I am a Scorpio with a Scorpio stellium.I am definitely the jealous type x10. From our conversations, he constantly attracts 'crazy' females and he doesn't like it all despite always attracting our type. It's probably a real pain for him with all that air in his chart. IP: Logged |
Vixen
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posted April 19, 2015 12:15 AM
I don't have experience with guys with hard aspect between Venus and Pluto. But for females here who talk about how other females treat them horribly... Yep, I've noticed that women with Venus-Pluto (sometimes even with soft aspect) tend to attract female jealousy and envy. This aspect usually gives native very strong sexual energy. Other women pick up on this energy and often see the woman with this aspect as a threat.IP: Logged |
CAY_512
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posted April 19, 2015 12:48 AM
How wide an orb? IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted April 19, 2015 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Lol!!! I have Venus conjunct Pluto, on AC....I get this!! Why just once can't it be the guy you want it to be?? Lol
Ha ha! I'm glad you get it Gabby. But, ah, WOW! Venus conjunct Pluto on your AC? That seems like serious business. Maybe more intense than the square, but in a good way? I don't know. I'm curious about the conjunction. IP: Logged |
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