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Topic: Cancer Moon version of Loyalty
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2484 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 24, 2015 01:19 PM
My experiences with cancer moons are somewhat similar to what you describe. I have quite a lot of cap placements, including asc. So given my natal chart, I'm not very comfortable with cancer placements (mostly the moon and sun), especially when they sit on/near my desc. I find it tough to deal with the cancer moons I know because although I know that their care is genuine, I don't need too much of it coz it makes me feel smothered. But how do I go about telling someone who cares about me to stop doing so or to tone it down? Sometimes I try to explain that different people want different kind of care and love. But it doesn't work. At the end of the day, I don't return their love in the same way and I can't seem to "feel" their love either. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: I find it tough to deal with the cancer moons I know because although I know that their care is genuine, I don't need too much of it coz it makes me feel smothered. But how do I go about telling someone who cares about me to stop doing so or to tone it down? Sometimes I try to explain that different people want different kind of care and love. But it doesn't work.
How do you tell a Cancer Moon to tone it down? By doing just that - speak up! Don't ever deceive us because that will anger us on a grand scale. We are quite sensitive, but not in a "puny" way - we can handle honesty. We appreciate you being up front with us so that our energy isn't wasted! As long as you are always respectful and caring in your delivery we will receive it.
I like Cap Moons (or Cap anything) because they are usually dependable people, which I really appreciate. Probably not the best match for deep romance or long-lasting friendship though! Just keep it light and all should be just fine. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 01:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, LA. I could be politically correct and couch everything in terms that would not get anyone angry but that is life with a diet of cottage cheese for all meals. I can't do it.
I get it. Cancer *must* get out their emotions in order to be truly content. If we hold things in out of fear....Woah Nelly...that will NOT be good! For us or anyone in our path! And who the hell wants bland cottage cheese everyday?? Umm, no thanks. LOL
quote: Originally posted by MoonBunny: LovelyAries86 lol you made me smile!!! I certainly understand you and Ami's view 100 percent. I feel like this is a Cancer Moon Party/ support group now lol!! (which is awesome!)
I adore other Cancer Moons. We truly understand each other and it fills me up everytime I come across one - online or in person. Thanks for creating this thread! You rock IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2484 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 24, 2015 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86: By doing just that - speak up!
^ I'm not very tactful. I have done that. And has never ended well.
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2484 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 24, 2015 01:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86: I like Cap Moons (or Cap anything) because they are usually dependable people, which I really appreciate. Probably not the best match for deep romance or long-lasting friendship though!
I agree with this. My romantic experiences with cancer moon or venus aren't that great. Funny thing is that once we went back to being acquaintances, everything turned out ok. THe problems seem to only rear their heads in close friendship or romantic relationships. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 01:55 PM
I put out the theory that the Mars sign can modify loyalty but I have to retract that lolI think the Moon stands alone. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 02:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: ^ I'm not very tactful. I have done that. And it didn't end well.
Well now you know! Use tact.
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I put out the theory that the Mars sign can modify loyalty but I have to retract that lolI think the Moon stands alone.
Care to share more about Mars & loyalty? IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2484 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 24, 2015 02:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86: Well now you know! Use tact.
Haha I would if I could. I usually say something along the line of "I need some space (or "I can handle this myself"). Please do not call me or text me for the next few weeks. Thank you". Or like I mentioned before, I sometimes would try to explain that I know they care, but I don't need that much care and I have to figure things out on my own. If you could give me some advice on what to say I'd really appreciate it. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 02:23 PM
I thought the Mars could trump the "non loyal" Moon but it doesn't. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 02:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes, I thought if you had a disloyal Moon and you had a loyal mars, it may trump it, but it doesn't
What are your thoughts on someone with a loyal Moon and disloyal a Mars? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 02:42 PM
Well, if you have a Libra Moon and a Cancer Mars, you won't be loyal imeIf you have a loyal Moon,the Moon is more CORE to a person that Mars, so I would think that the Moon trumps Mars. Mars is goals and action. The Moon is one's heart. Don't be with a person if you don't trust their heart--whether a best friend or a partner. You will have casual dealings with people who you would not want as close friends. This is cool but for your close intimates, study the Moon well imo
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 02:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: "I need some space (or "I can handle this myself"). Please do not call me or text me for the next few weeks. Thank you". If you could give me some advice on what to say I'd really appreciate it.
As a Cancer Moon, I can usually intuit when you don't want to be bothered. Rarely will you even have to tell me! I pay attention to everything you do, what you say...AND what you decide to withhold from me. Again, I don't like to feel like I've wasted my energy. But advice on what to say in cased I've missed the hint? Well... "If I retreat for awhile, please don't take it personally. I'm just going through some things right now". "Don't worry about me. I need you in my life! I just need space sometimes, too. No biggie." "I appreciate all that you do for me. You'll never know how much! Just focus on taking care of you for now, you deserve a break. I've got myself handled." No need to put a timeline on how long we 'leave you alone' - we'll periodically check in and test the waters. And don't be dry with us. Again, use tact! There you go IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2484 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 24, 2015 02:50 PM
^ I guess the trick is to make them feel appreciated. Thank you. Will use them next time. When I'm in one of my moods or s.t troubles my mind, I'm often very curt and dry indeed. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: ^ I guess the trick is to make them feel appreciated. Thank you. Will use them next time. When I'm in one of my moods or s.t troubles my mind, I'm often very curt and dry indeed.
You got it! Glad I could shed some light for you.
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2200 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 03:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Don't be with a person if you don't trust their heart--whether a best friend or a partner. You will have casual dealings with people who you would not want as close friends.
Makes a lot of sense! I truly do have many acquaintances. But few do I call friends. Indeed! I've recently stopped in my tracks of building a close friendship with this one Libra Moon girl. Don't get me wrong, she's lovely! But my standards of what friendship is truly differs from hers. I bluntly told her that she p*ssed me off, and that I was not gonna fake it! She was hurt initially and played the victim. Then recently...she came to me and apologized. She understood that my expectations were fair considering the amazing friend that I've already been to her. So I appreciated that she was adult enough to acknowledge that! I was about to cut her OFF, but I'll give her another shot. And this is ittt, no more chances!! I doubt that I'll ever let her all the way in now, though. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 03:37 PM
I've recently stopped in my tracks of building a close friendship with this one Libra Moon girl. Don't get me wrong, she's lovely! But my standards of what friendship is truly differs from hersEXACTLY. If I did fake Astrology and would never give an opinion, how could people figure these things out. I take the bullets for everyone ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 04:22 PM
Ok Let's see MBI will just tell you some things I see. I forget the question, so will just see what hits me lol I don't use Artemis which conj your ASC. Do you know about it? I would love to learn. You are very intelligent! Your mind prolly has to go deep into things to understand them but then you really retain what you learn and can use it well! Lucifer is WAY too far from your Moon to matter It was funny when you said it was conj your moon that I did not feel it in you. I pick up Lucifer in people and you did not have that vibe at all lol Lucifer people have a "know it all" attitude. They will ask you a question and then argue with you about it. I hate that lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 04:24 PM
You may have struggled with money and the pain/fear may have gone deep.You may feel really uncomfortable with your passions--deep primal emotions and sexuality. Somehow, lack of money may have played into this. Maybe, you did not have nice enough clothes, house etc and felt insecure xx Your taboo side is not an easy side for you.You may feel like you have to hide it because you may feel you are too "wild" If so, it is not your fault but your chart. If all this is too personal for the open board, I will take it off. I am going out for dinner but I will look when I get back to see if you want me to take it off or maybe before, if you answer before. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2625 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86: As a Cancer Moon, I can usually intuit when you don't want to be bothered. Rarely will you even have to tell me! I pay attention to everything you do, what you say...AND what you decide to withhold from me. Again, I don't like to feel like I've wasted my energy. But advice on what to say in cased I've missed the hint? Well... "If I retreat for awhile, please don't take it personally. I'm just going through some things right now". "Don't worry about me. I need you in my life! I just need space sometimes, too. No biggie." "I appreciate all that you do for me. You'll never know how much! Just focus on taking care of you for now, you deserve a break. I've got myself handled." No need to put a timeline on how long we 'leave you alone' - we'll periodically check in and test the waters. And don't be dry with us. Again, use tact! There you go
What if you need a person to rely on, to figure out important tasks to improve a situation? I hardly find Cancer moon helpful. They see that something is going badly in your life, then they avoid you or decide to withdraw. Cancer and pisces influences are the two most complacent. I'm an aries moon. My brand of caring is giving someone tough love and lots of Cancer moons need to be coddled. The best cancer moon I know have strong sun and mars, which make them both sensitive and a fighter. But even then they are loyal maybe to one or two people in their life as Cancer moon has problem being alone.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This is the upshot from what I learned recently. I will NEVER allow someone close to me who does not see loyalty as I do. That means that I will only allow someone close to me who has what *I* call a loyal moon, which is Cappy, Cancer, Scorpio, Leo and Taurus, although Saggi seems as if they are, too. I just don't know too many.
Ami, I wish you could find something you love about us virgo moons! I'm one of the most loyal ppl you'll find! Saggy moons?? I've known several, they walk very very easily...sometimes they don't even tell you why they are walking. They also cheat very easily and are not very sensitive either. The saggy moon I was with because he was lying about having a gf and cheating on her with me...he left her after I found out the truth and he never told her about me or why he was leaving her, he just said bye!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 07:49 PM
I don't know many Virgo moons, Gabby. I really can't say but I wonder if they would stand up or not want to get involved?------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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bananaz Knowflake Posts: 288 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted April 24, 2015 08:10 PM
My best friend is a Cancer moon/ Cappy sun. I've noticed she can easily cut someone off if they've wronged her. She doesn't keep a lot of friends, but the ones she does, she's very good to. In relationships, she stays loyal until her partners prove their disloyalty. Then she gets revenge and cuts them off. (Mars in Scorp showing here too) I don't know very many cancer moons, but the ones Ive met that were women also have a huge need to be a mother, and they were all mothers at early ages. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 65205 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 24, 2015 08:27 PM
Bottom line, Cancer Moon has a nest and the people in the nest have to be loyal in the same way. People can say it is bad or whatever. It is just the nature of Cancer Moon. However, these Moons are the same way-- Cancer,Cappy, Leo, Scorpio, Taurus and Saggi seems to be( on limited experience) Loyalty is everything to a Cancer Moon. They can forgive many things but not disloyalty. Loyalty is STANDING up when it is hard. If it were not hard, it would not matter
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8393 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted April 24, 2015 09:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I don't know many Virgo moons, Gabby. I really can't say but I wonder if they would stand up or not want to get involved?
I stand up for the ppl I care about! Even if someone I love is in the wrong I fight for them like they were right until I get them alone and then I correct them, my children at least. I don't like ppl to think we are at any time anything less than united and standing back to back. I fight for my kids to a fault, I'm the mom that will jump in there are argue for them to anyone. From what I know of virgos is when they love you, you are their priority. IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 24, 2015 10:00 PM
(...)• There are those days when you don't really need to have strong opinions... about certain things... (or about what you're reading... ) IP: Logged |