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LovelyAries86
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posted April 24, 2015 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:

What if you need a person to rely on, to figure out important tasks to improve a situation?

I hardly find Cancer moon helpful. They see that something is going badly in your life, then they avoid you or decide to withdraw.


What if you need someone to rely on? Umm...I *am* the person that many people rely on. That's what I've been saying throughout this entire thread! So your post somewhat perplexes me.

Cancer Suns will sometimes avoid you, yes. But I do not find that to be the case with most Cancer Moons at all -- we run TO YOU when you're in need, not AWAY from you! Now if we don't particularly like you, find you draining, or if we've cut you off...we'll absolutely give you the cold shoulder. Yep! Lol. Aries Moons often rub us the wrong way so I can see how your view of us would be 'off'. I'm an Aries Sun, and Aries Moons are not really my cup of tea, honestly.

If we're not your style, I get it. To each their own.

BTW - Along with my Aries Sun and Cancer Moon, I'm Cap Mars. So believe me...I'm a fighter, a nurturer and a problem-solver all rolled into one!

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posted April 24, 2015 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
My best friend is a Cancer moon/ Cappy sun. I've noticed she can easily cut someone off if they've wronged her. She doesn't keep a lot of friends, but the ones she does, she's very good to.

I co-sign this!


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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Loyalty is everything to a Cancer Moon. They can forgive many things but not disloyalty.

Loyalty is STANDING up when it is hard. If it were not hard, it would not matter


True! Makes me think of Mafia families, actually.

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posted April 25, 2015 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
^ I guess the trick is to make them feel appreciated. Thank you. Will use them next time. When I'm in one of my moods or s.t troubles my mind, I'm often very curt and dry indeed.

BINGO!! Once we know that we can give lots of space.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm close to a Cancer moon and yet she's more than her moon. Unfortunately it mixes with her Sag and Scorpio placements so that she can dish out the criticisms but not take it (and it's only because I've studied her chart that I tolerate this about her). Yet her Sag, Libra, and Gemini placements also help her be more open rather than hinting the way many Cancer moons do, and perhaps help her be upbeat and also work out stress physically (tennis is her thing though I've gotten her into racquetball as well).

She is very loyal, and wow, I'm still amazed remembering how she confronted a landlady with such maternal authority that the landlady was completely thrown off balance, and the Cancer moon knew that reasoning with her was not possible so struck fear into her and went over her head with such aplomb that had I seen it in a movie I might have clapped!

Where she diverges is that she's not domestic, she's oriented to her studies and her career. I can't talk about the details of that but I will say there's an emotional reason for it...and also an astrological one, her Cancer moon is 2H, she needs a padded bank account and some pleasant possessions to feel emotionally secure (and I've since noticed that her favorite gifts from me are not only somehow sentimental but also vibrant to the physical senses). (Of course Cancers can turn to finances to fill emotional voids, but that doesn't seem to be the case now...at least not anymore since she finally got out of a house filled with unhappy and even tragic memories that she had a real hard time letting go of.)

I'm just glad I hadn't read a lot about Cancer moons on LL before I got close to her or I might have pushed her away as it sounds smothering, but she's not that. (I was initially more wary of her Scorpio Venus and Mars, especially I endured a frightening stalker once with those placements.) She's taught me how to appreciate Cancer moons and her daughter how to appreciate Cancer suns. When they're emotionally secure they can really blossom and the "scent" of them is really sweet and not at all smothering. She is possessive of people, but I knew an Aries deluxe (Sun, ASC, stellium including moon, Mars, Venus) who was far more so.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Let's see MB

I will just tell you some things I see. I forget the question, so will just see what hits me lol

I don't use Artemis which conj your ASC. Do you know about it? I would love to learn.

You are very intelligent!

Your mind prolly has to go deep into things to understand them but then you really retain what you learn and can use it well!

Lucifer is WAY too far from your Moon to matter

It was funny when you said it was conj your moon that I did not feel it in you.

I pick up Lucifer in people and you did not have that vibe at all lol

Lucifer people have a "know it all" attitude. They will ask you a question and then argue with you about it.

I hate that lol


Thank you for the information Ami!

I added Artemis because I vaguely remember liking her story when I was younger. Artemis was a daughter of Zeus, but lived as mortal, and loved to hunt. She loved animals, and really valued her independence and strived to protect her charity. Off the top of my head I would say maybe Artemis conjuncting my ASC makes me appear independent, and I also think it gives me a gift with animals. Most of them love me . I do not know much about this asteroid either, so I will continue to think and modify this.

I do think I am intelligent, and yes its so true that I really need to spend intimate time with something and take it all in for a bit to actually learn it. But after that I am set its true!

About Lucifer, if its 7 degrees away its too far to matter? Haha okay then. I really don't like know-it-alls one bit, we always clash. I like having open, two-way discussions for sure, not talking to a brick wall lol.

I don't think I ever asked a question. I think that my coping mechanism with my Cancer Moon is just different, so I thought maybe it was afflicted with something I haven't noticed But this is all good info thank you!

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posted April 25, 2015 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya all the posts r really helpful to me. I now feel better equipped to deal with the cancer moons around me. Truth is although they find me distant and I sometimes find our interactions/friendship draining, it's not bad. So I like to improve things or at least keep things from going down the drain. Cutting off friendships takes a toll on me. It's easy to cut people of when there's bad blood but friendships ending due different personalities makes me feel regretful.

Lol I'm currently helping a cancer moon to get through a nasty divorce and it's tough to deal with her version of loyalty. Taking cue from this thread, I might as well let her vent out her anger first n make sure that she knows I have her best interests at heart before moving to other things. After she already let it out it'll be easier for me to tell her my thoughts without beeing seen as taking the guy's side.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You may have struggled with money and the pain/fear may have gone deep.

You may feel really uncomfortable with your passions--deep primal emotions and sexuality.

Somehow, lack of money may have played into this. Maybe, you did not have nice enough clothes, house etc and felt insecure xx

Your taboo side is not an easy side for you.You may feel like you have to hide it because you may feel you are too "wild"

If so, it is not your fault but your chart.

If all this is too personal for the open board, I will take it off.

I am going out for dinner but I will look when I get back to see if you want me to take it off or maybe before, if you answer before.


Thank you for being concerned, but I am fine with having this information up here. It is totally fine.

Yeah growing up my family would be okay with money then poor, then okay, then poor. It was a terrible cycle. I never really was taught how to take care of myself, or how to dress up nicely. I eventually got around to learning more about it, and its funny I am always so very insecure about my clothes, basically all the time. Having nice clothes really makes me feel better, more secure in myself.

About the sexuality/taboo stuff. Expressing my sexuality is an ongoing battle for sure. I go through stages of being very comfortable then back to completely uncomfortable and insecure. And old Scorpio lover was the only person I've been completely comfortable and not insecure in this area. Since I am going through my Saturn Return I know I have to really get ready to face this head on, in order to move passed it and grow.


Thanks again!

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posted April 25, 2015 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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What if you need a person to rely on, to figure out important tasks to improve a situation?

I hardly find Cancer moon helpful. They see that something is going badly in your life, then they avoid you or decide to withdraw. Cancer and pisces influences are the two most complacent. I'm an aries moon. My brand of caring is giving someone tough love and lots of Cancer moons need to be coddled.

The best cancer moon I know have strong sun and mars, which make them both sensitive and a fighter. But even then they are loyal maybe to one or two people in their life as Cancer moon has problem being alone. [/B][/QUOTE]

I have only been around one Aries Moon, I know that you guys don't like to dwell on things and need space, and since Cancer Moons tend to hold on tight this can be a problem lol. Oh well we are all different! Well its true at least in my case that I am not universally caring at all. My circle of friends and family are the only ones I can fight for when they need me to fight. The only exception for me lies in situations where I see injustice, especially certain types that I have expierenced. In that moment even if you are a stranger I will jump in and help you. I really despise inequality and love helping the under-dogs of the world (Maybe this is Mars in the 9th playing out).

Lol but if you weren't in my circle, I wouldn't avoid you if you needed help. I would just act mildly sympathetic. I wouldn't be able to go too deep into it with you. I guess I could summarize by saying I would just end up being semi-standdofish most likely.

Oh believe I have gotten my fair share of 'tough love' my whole life lol. Lots of fire/air people in my family. We do need need lots of love and assurance from friends, its true. But we give a pretty good reward in return for receiving !

But I definitely see how we aren't everyone's cup of tea. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

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posted April 25, 2015 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I'm close to a Cancer moon and yet she's more than her moon. Unfortunately it mixes with her Sag and Scorpio placements so that she can dish out the criticisms but not take it (and it's only because I've studied her chart that I tolerate this about her). Yet her Sag, Libra, and Gemini placements also help her be more open rather than hinting the way many Cancer moons do, and perhaps help her be upbeat and also work out stress physically (tennis is her thing though I've gotten her into racquetball as well).

She is very loyal, and wow, I'm still amazed remembering how she confronted a landlady with such maternal authority that the landlady was completely thrown off balance, and the Cancer moon knew that reasoning with her was not possible so struck fear into her and went over her head with such aplomb that had I seen it in a movie I might have clapped!

Where she diverges is that she's not domestic, she's oriented to her studies and her career. I can't talk about the details of that but I will say there's an emotional reason for it...and also an astrological one, her Cancer moon is 2H, she needs a padded bank account and some pleasant possessions to feel emotionally secure (and I've since noticed that her favorite gifts from me are not only somehow sentimental but also vibrant to the physical senses). (Of course Cancers can turn to finances to fill emotional voids, but that doesn't seem to be the case now...at least not anymore since she finally got out of a house filled with unhappy and even tragic memories that she had a real hard time letting go of.)

I'm just glad I hadn't read a lot about Cancer moons on LL before I got close to her or I might have pushed her away as it sounds smothering, but she's not that. (I was initially more wary of her Scorpio Venus and Mars, especially I endured a frightening stalker once with those placements.) She's taught me how to appreciate Cancer moons and her daughter how to appreciate Cancer suns. When they're emotionally secure they can really blossom and the "scent" of them is really sweet and not at all smothering. She is possessive of people, but I knew an Aries deluxe (Sun, ASC, stellium including moon, Mars, Venus) who was far more so.


PixieJane thank you for sharing this! When I was young I also couldn't take criticism well, but now I can no problem. Growing up in a fire dominant family, I had to learn to take it eventually lol. I can see how it could be super annoying. So nice of you to tolerate this about your friend!

LOL your story of her standing up is so funny! We really can be scary when we are defending a loved one.

I am not a super domestic Cancer Moon either. I have never dreamed of my future wedding day or fantasized about having children at all. I may have them but its not on my top priority list.

Yes once we learn how to work out emotions on our own we can really shine like you say! I think from hearing about your friend, it makes me realize that Cancer and Sag energy can work well together if the person uses exercise to work through all the Cancer stuff. I have a Saggy Mars, and I know my crazy emotions always feel much better when I have a steady exercise routine going on. Thanks again for sharing!

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posted April 25, 2015 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Ya all the posts r really helpful to me. I now feel better equipped to deal with the cancer moons around me. Truth is although they find me distant and I sometimes find our interactions/friendship draining, it's not bad. So I like to improve things or at least keep things from going down the drain. Cutting off friendships takes a toll on me. It's easy to cut people of when there's bad blood but friendships ending due different personalities makes me feel regretful.

Lol I'm currently helping a cancer moon to get through a nasty divorce and it's tough to deal with her version of loyalty. Taking cue from this thread, I might as well let her vent out her anger first n make sure that she knows I have her best interests at heart before moving to other things. After she already let it out it'll be easier for me to tell her my thoughts without beeing seen as taking the guy's side.


You Cappys can be great friends to us!! I have one really close Cappy friend, she has braved all my crazy emotion storms. I love her to death.


Yes yes yes your plan sounds good with your friend. As long as you make it clear that you care about her a lot, then you can gradually move toward more objective advice and conversation. Don't be afraid you got this!!

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posted April 25, 2015 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
What if you need someone to rely on? Umm...I *am* the person that many people rely on. That's what I've been saying throughout this entire thread! So your post somewhat perplexes me.

Cancer Suns will sometimes avoid you, yes. But I do not find that to be the case with most Cancer Moons at all -- we run TO YOU when you're in need, not AWAY from you! Now if we don't particularly like you, find you draining, or if we've cut you off...we'll absolutely give you the cold shoulder. Yep! Lol. Aries Moons often rub us the wrong way so I can see how your view of us would be 'off'. I'm an Aries Sun, and Aries Moons are not really my cup of tea, honestly.

If we're not your style, I get it. To each their own.

BTW - Along with my Aries Sun and Cancer Moon, I'm Cap Mars. So believe me...I'm a fighter, a nurturer and a problem-solver all rolled into one!


I did say that Cancer moon with a strong nars is both a fighter and a sensitive person didn't I? I have seen very good side of Cancer moons and have said that.

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posted April 25, 2015 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are most welcome, MB. It was my pleasure.

Keep studying your chart. Do the asteroids. Little by little, you will understand the blue print that is you!

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posted April 25, 2015 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES

Cancer Moon loyalty is Mafia loyalty. Exactly

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posted April 25, 2015 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MB

Your Moon trines Mercury, so you can take your deep emotions and express them, which is lovely. Lucifer does not count, as I said.

Can you put your chart up with fewer aspect lines. It is hard to see what the Moon does.

I will look later


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posted April 25, 2015 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the encouragement Ami I will keep studying. Here is my less aspects chart:

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posted April 25, 2015 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you please make it bigger. Sorry, but I have to try to make it easy on my eyes. I look at charts so much all day lol

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posted April 25, 2015 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I did say that Cancer moon with a strong nars is both a fighter and a sensitive person didn't I? I have seen very good side of Cancer moons and have said that.

I have all the supposed "weak" signs in me and i always, always attract people in need of help and advice and i have no problem voicing my opinion either and can be too honest sometimes that it can hurt. A leo with an aries moon girl couldnt handle the truth, it was too brutal for her. And guess who wanted to back out when we fought? she did, i stood my ground. I would dig up sides to her she didnt want to deal with and face. I wasn`t there to feed her ego and she couldn`t handle my brutal honesty. I have experienced numerous times now that people with arias/mars influence has a hard time facing or hearing anything bad about themselves bc in their views they are the "best" when that is far from the truth. They have a hard time if not incapable of improving themselves bc of their high love for themselves. I find strongly influenced arians to be way too ignorant, selfish, little to no self awareness and arrogant (almost on the border of being narcissistic) for me. They have proved this too many times now.

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posted April 25, 2015 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:

She is very loyal, and wow, I'm still amazed remembering how she confronted a landlady with such maternal authority that the landlady was completely thrown off balance, and the Cancer moon knew that reasoning with her was not possible so struck fear into her and went over her head with such aplomb that had I seen it in a movie I might have clapped!


Honey...that is Cancer Moon all day!! Don't mess with the people or things that we strongly care about. You may be killed

As for your friend dishing out what she can't take, I definitely don't do that! I always treat others how I wish for them to treat me. I'm in agreement that her Sag placements must be the culprit of that specific behavior.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have all the supposed "weak" signs in me and i always, always attract people in need of help and advice and i have no problem voicing my opinion either and can be too honest sometimes that it can hurt. A leo with an aries moon girl couldnt handle the truth, it was too brutal for her. And guess who wanted to back out when we fought? she did, i stood my ground. I would dig up sides to her she didnt want to deal with and face. I wasn`t there to feed her ego and she couldn`t handle my brutal honesty. I have experienced numerous times now that people with arias/mars influence has a hard time facing or hearing anything bad about themselves bc in their views they are the "best" when that is far from the truth. They have a hard time if not incapable of improving themselves bc of their high love for themselves. I find strongly influenced arians to be way too ignorant, selfish, little to no self awareness and arrogant (almost on the border of being narcissistic) for me. They have proved this too many times now.



I agree. This is why arian influenced people feel the need to prove themselves. Leo to some extent too.

But then again many aries due to their need to prove themselves eventually have to force themselves to face the truth in order to "win." There are bad side to every sign and my point wasn't to dish Cancer moon. I just pointed out that being sensitive can be problematic but that's up to the readers to interpret isn't it?

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I agree. This is why arian influenced people feel the need to prove themselves. Leo to some extent too.

But then again many aries due to their need to prove themselves eventually have to force themselves to face the truth in order to "win." There are bad side to every sign and my point wasn't to dish Cancer moon. I just pointed out that being sensitive can be problematic but that's up to the readers to interpret isn't it?

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Like someone earlier said we prefer someone to be honest with us. I get annoyed when someone goes in a round about way of doing things bc i have already figured out what they feel about something but to see them say one thing but feeling another thing bothers me. I have venus conj jupiter to, i appreciate and want honesty in my relationships with people.

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posted April 25, 2015 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I agree. This is why arian influenced people feel the need to prove themselves. Leo to some extent too.

But then again many aries due to their need to prove themselves eventually have to force themselves to face the truth in order to "win." There are bad side to every sign and my point wasn't to dish Cancer moon. I just pointed out that being sensitive can be problematic but that's up to the readers to interpret isn't it?


Fair enough!

We all have weaknesses to master, and I've found a healthy balance with my Sensitivity.


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For some reason I am having trouble making my chart bigger. This is the best I could do (and for some reason its blurry)! If you can't see it, don't worry about it!

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posted April 26, 2015 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer Moon Update :

I had a really bad day yesterday and surprisingly enough my Aqua Moon friend really cheered me up, made me laugh a ton. He was making fun of himself in order to make me feel better, I thought this was super sweet. If this is how Aqua moons roll, I am liking it :0D! I haven't had much experience with them until now, with the exception of my one 11th house Moon friend.

Any other Cancer Mooners feel like humor is one of the best things a friend can do to cheer us up?? Just curious !

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Humor is very important to me. I love someone that can make me laugh and I love to make people laugh.

As long as they can handle sarcasm. My Scorp Merc can go a bit overboard with that...

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