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Geminiyoungster
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posted May 06, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how to explain this, but sometimes it feels like it's hard to have conversations that's on a superficial level. AKA Small talk..

I know that sounds really weird/silly, but its like i'm not intrigued in a lot of stuff that people interested at my age. I'm 21 going on 22.

I think that makes me have a strong vibe because I'm always just quiet. (My height does not help either, Jupiter in 1st house)

I feel like sometimes I can get so bored with people and small talk. I mean, I love to talk, but it's about just life lessons or interesting things. Not in a self absorbed way though.

Does anybody else go through this.

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posted May 06, 2015 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I went through this stage when I was younger. I'm more relaxed now and my thoughts are more gray, I don't necessarily judge things as interesting/not interesting anymore as long as I feel I'm engaging a social connection in a sense.

I would blame your Mercury/Neptune/Uranus quincunx and you also have Neptune R and Uranus R like myself. Those planets tend to want to make your thoughts want to connect with less personal ideas/thoughts and focus more on transpersonal or more abstract concepts. Especially with the retrograde, your thoughts and imagination can almost have a mind of their own and as you engage them, they almost come alive in a sense.

You'll eventually learn to enjoy the different aspects of yourself as you balance those energies and the Yod you have between them and your moon. But it'll take time, so while things don't seem to make sense right now and everyone around your age may not understand you, you'll make a definitely impact in the future when you realize why you have your Yod and your purpose for thinking the way you do. Mercury-Uranus contacts are known as the 'genius' aspect after all!

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posted May 06, 2015 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coteau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I know.
here's a quote from astrofix on scorpio 3rd house:
"Deep conversations. Penetrating, deep, and intense everyday conversations. Needing intensity and passion in routine interactions with other people"

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posted May 06, 2015 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 17 and still in high school and I am way past superficial conversations. Had to cut off people in my life.

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posted May 06, 2015 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have moon square pluto. Intimacy or in depth conversations are important to you.

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posted May 06, 2015 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your south node is in gemini and your north node is in sagittarius in the 3rd house of communication, that also explains it.

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posted May 06, 2015 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SDragon:
Yes, I went through this stage when I was younger. I'm more relaxed now and my thoughts are more gray, I don't necessarily judge things as interesting/not interesting anymore as long as I feel I'm engaging a social connection in a sense.

I would blame your Mercury/Neptune/Uranus quincunx and you also have Neptune R and Uranus R like myself. Those planets tend to want to make your thoughts want to connect with less personal ideas/thoughts and focus more on transpersonal or more abstract concepts. Especially with the retrograde, your thoughts and imagination can almost have a mind of their own and as you engage them, they almost come alive in a sense.

You'll eventually learn to enjoy the different aspects of yourself as you balance those energies and the Yod you have between them and your moon. But it'll take time, so while things don't seem to make sense right now and everyone around your age may not understand you, you'll make a definitely impact in the future when you realize why you have your Yod and your purpose for thinking the way you do. Mercury-Uranus contacts are known as the 'genius' aspect after all!


You are awesome, i do feel this. And also, what exactly is a yod and how does it work in my chart? Ive heard of this before. but never in details!

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posted May 06, 2015 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by coteau:
I think I know.
here's a quote from astrofix on scorpio 3rd house:
"Deep conversations. Penetrating, deep, and intense everyday conversations. Needing intensity and passion in routine interactions with other people"


Yes, yes and yes! That is spot on and my moon square pluto at a tight orb combined with this is double enhanced!

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posted May 06, 2015 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
your south node is in gemini and your north node is in sagittarius in the 3rd house of communication, that also explains it.

I may make a thread on this because I dont know if people on her has talked about north node in the 3ed house in sag. Thnak you for your input.

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posted May 06, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
I'm 17 and still in high school and I am way past superficial conversations. Had to cut off people in my life.

Why do you feel like you probably have some aspects to the moon or asc. what's your placments

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posted May 06, 2015 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Mercury is in the 9th house, the house of higher studies, spirituality/religion, etc.

You have Jupiter in the 1st house, the house of the self, and your life and Jupiter is the ruler of the 9th house.

I'm a Jupiter in the 1st house as well (but Scorpio Mercury in the 6th)

I'll break it to you now - most people are not going to learn and study as much as you will with Jupiter in the 1st.

Get used to knowing a lot about a lot of things and feeling somewhat frustrated that most people don't know much about a lot of things.

I do credit Jupiter in the 1st as a good teacher's aspect so you may be frustrated with small talk/superficial talk but you will also be an effective teacher.

You won't always be the smartest in the room but you will often be smarter than your age group.

I suggest befriending an older crowd that can teach you and satisfy the Jupiter in the 1st/Mercury in the 9th need for higher learning.

Jupiter in the 1st house just makes the thirst for knowing a lifelong thing. I've been out of my undergrad for years now and all I want to do is study more. I'll eventually get my Masters and my Phd. In the meantime I read a book or two a week, listen to audiobooks while running or commuting (I cut out music as wasteful in exchange for knowledge)

You may find as you get older you'll take on studious habits like this. Many people don't bother studying after school or work but you will. Probably even more so than me. With my Mercury in the 6th I study things that will advance my daily work and career. You have Mercury in the 9th making your want of knowledge more genuine and probably stronger.

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posted May 06, 2015 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
[B]I don't know how to explain this, but sometimes it feels like it's hard to have conversations that's on a superficial level. AKA Small talk..

I know that sounds really weird/silly, but its like i'm not intrigued in a lot of stuff that people interested at my age. I'm 21 going on 22.

I think that makes me have a strong vibe because I'm always just quiet. (My height does not help either, Jupiter in 1st house)

I feel like sometimes I can get so bored with people and small talk. I mean, I love to talk, but it's about just life lessons or interesting things. Not in a self absorbed way though.

Does anybody else go through this.

Yes, lots of others do. You're probably an Introvert.

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posted May 06, 2015 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Why do you feel like you probably have some aspects to the moon or asc. what's your placments

I have moon square Pluto too if that counts? Although I have my sun and mercury in Gemini and my mercury opposes Pluto exact but Saturn is opposing my mercury while conjuncting my Pluto and this transit has made me had all kinds of negative conversations.

I used to be superficial

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posted May 06, 2015 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
You are awesome, i do feel this. And also, what exactly is a yod and how does it work in my chart? Ive heard of this before. but never in details!

A yod is two planets forming a sextile and those planets quincunx another planet forming an isosceles triangle. Your planets Mercury sextile Moon and both those quincunx your Neptune and Uranus.

The conflict between the planets at first start with their energies. You have an air Mercury, fire Moon, and earth Neptune/Uranus and the elemental energies themselves don't really know how to work together well, but in this underlying tension lies the paradox of creation and somehow they do manage to work it all out. The Yod is called the finger of god and when seen in a chart, it means the energies are given a bit more focus and there's usually a real underlying purpose that people with Yod's feel.

Your Yod is interesting because the first thing noticed is that the Moon quincunx Neptune which is it's higher octave in a sense and Neptune is in the Moon's natural 4th house position, however it's in the sign of Capricorn which is the opposite sign of the 4th house's natural ruler Cancer. Cancer also is in the 10th house which seems to indicate that your purpose is to demonstrate an ability to balance the energies between your projected 'home' and outer 'career' or authority. The blending of the energies, though conflicting at first, almost balance themselves out in an androgynous unification. This can also be seen in the fact that all your outer planets are in your southern hemisphere and your personal planets are in your northern hemisphere, another level of complexity so to speak. Your whole chart seems to say balance to me (4 cardinal, 3 fixed, 3 mutable/3 fire, 3 air, 2 earth, 2 water).

Not sure if it helps you with the Yod, but with 4 retrograde planets, I'm sure you'll figure it out

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posted May 08, 2015 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valentine:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
[B]I don't know how to explain this, but sometimes it feels like it's hard to have conversations that's on a superficial level. AKA Small talk..

I know that sounds really weird/silly, but its like i'm not intrigued in a lot of stuff that people interested at my age. I'm 21 going on 22.

I think that makes me have a strong vibe because I'm always just quiet. (My height does not help either, Jupiter in 1st house)

I feel like sometimes I can get so bored with people and small talk. I mean, I love to talk, but it's about just life lessons or interesting things. Not in a self absorbed way though.

Does anybody else go through this.

Yes, lots of others do. You're probably an Introvert.


Yess i am and i'm also an INFJ to as well.

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posted May 08, 2015 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SDragon:
A yod is two planets forming a sextile and those planets quincunx another planet forming an isosceles triangle. Your planets Mercury sextile Moon and both those quincunx your Neptune and Uranus.

The conflict between the planets at first start with their energies. You have an air Mercury, fire Moon, and earth Neptune/Uranus and the elemental energies themselves don't really know how to work together well, but in this underlying tension lies the paradox of creation and somehow they do manage to work it all out. The Yod is called the finger of god and when seen in a chart, it means the energies are given a bit more focus and there's usually a real underlying purpose that people with Yod's feel.

Your Yod is interesting because the first thing noticed is that the Moon quincunx Neptune which is it's higher octave in a sense and Neptune is in the Moon's natural 4th house position, however it's in the sign of Capricorn which is the opposite sign of the 4th house's natural ruler Cancer. Cancer also is in the 10th house which seems to indicate that your purpose is to demonstrate an ability to balance the energies between your projected 'home' and outer 'career' or authority. The blending of the energies, though conflicting at first, almost balance themselves out in an androgynous unification. This can also be seen in the fact that all your outer planets are in your southern hemisphere and your personal planets are in your northern hemisphere, another level of complexity so to speak. Your whole chart seems to say balance to me (4 cardinal, 3 fixed, 3 mutable/3 fire, 3 air, 2 earth, 2 water).

Not sure if it helps you with the Yod, but with 4 retrograde planets, I'm sure you'll figure it out



OMG, i love this! This was a really good explanation. Thank you!

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posted May 08, 2015 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
I have moon square Pluto too if that counts? Although I have my sun and mercury in Gemini and my mercury opposes Pluto exact but Saturn is opposing my mercury while conjuncting my Pluto and this transit has made me had all kinds of negative conversations.

I used to be superficial


My family member has a mercury square pluto and you guys can be intense. This person has it in a fixed sign though, which is taurus! That Gemini energy could help you out , but I would hate to see you when you're mad,haha!

I wonder what made you become less superficial and you also learned at a young age, which is great!

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posted May 08, 2015 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
My family member has a mercury square pluto and you guys can be intense. This person has it in a fixed sign though, which is taurus! That Gemini energy could help you out , but I would hate to see you when you're mad,haha!

I wonder what made you become less superficial and you also learned at a young age, which is great!


Actually when I get really angry I get frustrated and cry, my brother has Scorpio rising with Pluto conjunct his ascendant in the first so he's the scary one. I also have Capricorn rising so I keep my cool.

It's probably my cap rising because I like mature people better.

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posted May 08, 2015 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in Gemini likes to talk small. So i found this a little unusual.

So after some exploring, I found that Mercury is in the 9th house-its detriment house.

But even so, the Mercury in Gemini is still advantageous and would cause someone to talk excessively in the 9th house.

Then I also found that Pluto in Scorpio is close to conjunct the cusp of the 3rd house.
And that was it.

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posted May 08, 2015 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Geminiyoungster.

I'd like to add to SDragon's comments about your yod. The base of the yod is the Moon-Mercury sextile which needs to be integrated with the Uranus-Neptune conjunction. Uranus-Neptune is the focal point for the energies of the base. Think of the sextile as the springboard energetically for the Uranus-Neptune conjunction. As SDragon mentioned, the energies don't naturally synthesize and work together harmoniously so there is some struggle and working through involved.

Moon-Mercury, without considering Uranus-Neptune, is an excellent aspect for all mental activities and matters relating to the 3H: writing, speaking, and all ways of communicating information, news, and ideas. Moon-Mercury in major aspect is often seen in people whose work involves communicating with the public in some way.

Moon-Mercury aspecting Uranus and Neptune suggests to me that there's a higher dimension to your thought processes, ideas, and interests, beyond the mundane arena of news and information.

Uranus-Neptune relates to the philosophical and spiritual underpinnings of any given civilization and culture. In other words, Uranus-Neptune is about the metaphysical structures of existence and the nature of Reality, capital "R."

What your yod suggests to me is that your work involves equipping yourself so that you have the capacity to tune into the higher dimensions of Uranus-Neptune and bring through and imbed into the material plane ideas, inspirations, teachings, a new vision of reality for the benefit of people and yourself. To interpret what you hear or see and intuit in a way that anyone can understand.

As part of the Uranus-Neptune group, I believe it's why you incarnated at this moment of our history. I don't know if you live in the West, but to give you a context it helps to know where we are in our collective history. We're living in a post-modern era, where we're leaving behind old world views and are on our way to a new one. Currently, we're in between, and there's a great deal of flux and instability happening because the old institutions and ways of looking at the world and reality are changing. But potentially, this opens the way to new ways of solving world problems and greater creativity. This is what I believe the Uranus-Neptune generation is here for. I think you in particular are a teacher, whether formally or not, with both Sun and Mercury, the ruler, in your 9H, Moon in the 11H, and NN in Sagittarius in the 3H. See if any of this resonates with you.

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posted May 10, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Geminiyoungster, Saturn Fan's Human Design thread could give you some unique insight.

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posted May 10, 2015 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I experienced this when I was growing up - I always felt like the oldest amongst my peers. Even though I was one of the youngest.

Thank God time moved on and I started to accept myself more, in doing so... I got in where I fitted in and found that university brought me into contact with alot more like minded people. People who were not afraid to explore deep, taboo and philosophical subjects.

I know it doesn't help right now, but don't worry... those people will come into your life real soon!

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posted May 11, 2015 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is your Lilith? Is it on the 3 House?

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posted May 11, 2015 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am the exact same way.

It's very difficult and uncomfortable for me to idly sit and converse about surface subjects or the usual "hi" and "bye" scenario.

I have concentrated Scorpio stellium, 6th house.
Sun, mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto)

My mercury in Scorpio is retrograde.
My 3rd house is ruled by cancer.

Gemini rules my 2nd house.
Virgo rules my 6th house.

I have my Sun, Mars, and ASC all square Saturn.

Mercury conjunct jupiter.
Mercury sextile chiron.
Mercury conjunct Nessus.

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posted May 11, 2015 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey!
Me too!
Ican't stand those nonsense talks

I don't know what shows this tendency in someone's chart but I've noticed that Scorpio Mercuries (when Moon and Venus are in Water or Earth sign) tend to hate small talks

An people with Mercury in Libra tend to love so much those silly talks

I am a Cancer Sun, ASC and Mercury,
Pisces Moon, Leo Mars Venus and Jup
I really can't understand what inmychart shows that I hate superficial/small talks so much..

Pluto in Scorpio (in 5th H) is my strongest planet because it's aspecting almost all my personal planets

Saturn in Aqua in my 8th
may show that too..

I also have Mercury in 1st
and Sun in 12th


I don't really know :/

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