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Topic: Been reading about Lilith...
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charlie
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posted May 07, 2015 07:01 AM
  
Why? I have been trying to figure myself out and got stuck at Lilith in Aries. I am all/nothing, black/white, NOW NOW NOW, been sexually deviant, I am rather stern against children as I want them to learn the hard way, I have burnt myself and bled more than most combined, problems with miscarriages, I am a warrior, I fight for for freedom of humanity and I fear my own mental/physical freedom will be taken away, I desire power and I god-damn-freaking-hate-rules-and-establishments! I detest humiliation and can't deal with emotional pain. I am aggressive and can be very vulgar in speech. I have no problems with nudity, near anyone. I tend to push people dangerously close their limits so that they can gain the same sense of freedom I desire. ☝︎ That is me to the core and it also happens to be Lilith in Aries. My Lilith is in 8H. I suppose this could explain my affinity for attracting Libras (they balance my Martian energy) and Aries' (they fuel my existing energy)-see an older post I wrote about this. After reading about Lil in Aries I went on to study other people's Lilith and it struck me how spot on they all are! I am curious if this might just be a coincidence or if perhaps she is much stronger of an asteroid than she is given credit for? I should also add that my Mars is conj Asc making me, I guess, extra "Mars", and Lilith is square my Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 07, 2015 07:22 AM
I want to make a better comment, but I'm kind of busy, and I just couldn't wait. I love this post and I love it coming from you. I identify strongly with my Lilith. The people closest to me have to love it or move on. I need my Lilith nature accepted as much as my Moon nature. In relationships I trust the men who aspect my Lilith in a positive way the most.(edit: not the "most". That's an exaggeration. I trust them easily)Lilith in Virgo IP: Logged |
karenkellybella
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posted May 08, 2015 12:08 AM
I've been trying to find more information about Lilith. Where can I get good information on Lilith in Virgo, 8th house?My man is lilith pisces, 12th house - so our liliths are opposite. My sun is conjunct his lilith too. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted May 08, 2015 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by karenkellybella:
I've been trying to find more information about Lilith. Where can I get good information on Lilith in Virgo, 8th house?My man is lilith pisces, 12th house - so our liliths are opposite. My sun is conjunct his lilith too.
http://sanjaperic.com/2005/04/28/lilith-in-virgo/
I like her.
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SaturnFan
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posted May 08, 2015 05:55 AM
Which Lilith do you guys use? I seem to remember there were 3 (an asteroid, BML and another one?)When I was just getting into astrology I checked my Lilith's interpretation and was horrified (it was something about feeling jealous of my children's accomplishments?!) but now that I've learned to interpret these things better I'd be curious to take another look. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 08, 2015 11:14 AM
Hey there SaturnFan  We were discussing this in Interpersonal Touch my Lilith... right there.... Different people identified with different Liliths. I use the mean calculation. Yeah, the descriptions for Lilith can be scary. Check this one for Virgo out. Lilith in Virgo expresses her sexuality in an inhibited way. She may suffer from confusion between the Eve/Lilith Mary/Naughty dichotomy. She hides her sexuality--a wolf in sheep's clothing. She lures with her words. She talks dirty. She exploits her own willingness to please and serve. She is the sexual servant in a most degrading way. She delights in perversions of all kinds; she corrupts the young. There is a connection between Virgo and anal sex. As a mother, she is ultra-critical, teaching hygiene and cleanliness. She may neglect her children's day-to-day needs. She might either be sentenced to nurturing a sick child or she herself suffers from health ailments. In early childhood, her day-to-day needs were neglected, possibly substituting a nurse or nanny. As a lover, she is critical and sharp-tongued. As a mistress, she is kept waiting, harming with her harsh critical words. http://www.astrologyinaction.com/lilith.htm The worst part for me is the part about the children, but it's true. I accepted the horror of it, so that I could take it in and examine it for any possible truth. What I mean is, I said, "ok. That's me. Now let me find it in myself" If I had been unable to find any truth, then I would have rejected it altogether, but I did find truth in it. As a mother, she is ultra-critical, teaching hygiene and cleanliness- I don't see myself as ultra-critical. Maybe I am. I may be unaware of my own habits. I can only let the people, who might be affected by me, know that they need to communicate with me. They need to let me know if I'm hurting them. Sometimes I ask. I never want to hurt anyone. I'll adjust. I can guarantee I'll adjust for children. She may neglect her children's day-to-day needs- This is true, if cooking children meals is more important than talking to children. I cook when it's my turn. I am available to talk always. she corrupts the young- I have edited this one a couple of times in an attempt to get to the truth of it. I can't at this time, but I don't feel the need count this one out... My home is a home focused on education, generosity, and fairness. It is a quiet home, in the sense that we ignore the world's noisy confusion and stay busy loving each other and those around us... but I join the world in its mess sometimes and I know my children can smell it on me. Even the scent of something can "corrupt". So I have no real need to deny this one- she corrupts the young. And, yeah, I openly share my unconventional ideas about world events, politics, education, business, and relationships. with my "range", as someone put it so well, there is no way for me to make us fit into any kind of box. edited
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YellowGerbera
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posted May 08, 2015 01:19 PM
http://sanjaperic.com/2005/04/28/lilith-in-aries/ Wow.. I never knew what Lilith did in my chart but this article really helped me understand WHEN I'm feeling my lilith. My mean Lilith (23ARI09) conjunct Pholus (24ARI10) in 4H. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 08, 2015 02:11 PM
I wonder where all this information about Lilith comes from. Anybody know? Unlike Mars/Venus/Moon/Sun, Lilith descriptions are pretty specific. It's almost an art to describe Lilith. IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted May 08, 2015 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I wonder where all this information about Lilith comes from. Anybody know? Unlike Mars/Venus/Moon/Sun, Lilith descriptions are pretty specific. It's almost an art to describe Lilith.
I wonder about too... Although that link I just posted up there nicely described me, I felt like it's describing my Mars quality which I also have in Aries.. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 08, 2015 04:17 PM
I'm just like a dude YellowGerbera- probably worse. I was excited to read Lilith in Aries, but I got distracted. I didn't get past the photo of the woman. But I agree. The descriptions are good. I may not agree with everything, but the way Lilith can identify things in me that I have not been able to put into words, makes me pay attention to Lilith IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted May 08, 2015 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I'm just like a dude YellowGerbera- probably worse. I was excited to read Lilith in Aries, but I got distracted. I didn't get past the photo of the woman. But I agree. The descriptions are good. I may not agree with everything, but the way Lilith can identify things in me that I have not been able to put into words, makes me pay attention to Lilith
Lmao!! I stared at that that pic too!!!  I joke that I'm a boy born in a girl's body.. and often think it would've been so much better off being born as a guy!! I'm not transgender tho. I'm only attracted to men for sure! I don't resonate with some lilith description for sure but I find that link fit me the best. I think in other LL threads, it says depending on the natals different lilith come into play.. I'm not in tune with myself so I wouldn't know how my other lilith effect me.. So good for you for paying attention!! IP: Logged |
SaturnFan
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posted May 09, 2015 05:04 PM
venus2tinkerbell,Thank you! Can't believe I missed that thread in Interpersonal Astrology So I ran my chart according to the tips here: How to Find All the Liliths in Your Birth Chart And I have:
Asteroid Lilith in Virgo conjunct Vertex by 5 degrees
BML in Leo widely conjunct by DSC (opposite Venus, square Moon and Pluto)
True Lilith in Cancer
Dark Moon Lilith/ Waldemath Black Moon in Gemini, conjunct Chiron exact, square Nodal Axis, opposite Saturn/ Uranus conjunction. So I braced myself and read the interpretations of all 4, but since I found both accurate and inaccurate traits in all of them I'll need to research this more. I think the Gemini description is the one I least resonate with. I like your philosophical and positive approach to researching Lilith and will try to adopt it - I've been working on bringing unconscious thoughts and feelings into my conscious mind, and this sounds like a great way to do it! IP: Logged |
confusedaseff
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posted May 09, 2015 05:08 PM
my biggest issue is the fact that i feel both like my true and mean lilith. but i dislike my true lilith more :Strue - gemini
mean - taurus ------------------
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PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ME IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 09, 2015 05:34 PM
I don't know if looking at Eros will help SaturnFan. It helped me alot, but that may be because they are opposing. Also, I have lived my Lilith in the flesh. I know her in action. And so now I can identify her vibrating under the surface.You're a lot younger than I am. 10 years I think. She came to the surface during my Saturn return, and she and natal Saturn share the same sign. Not sure of the relevancy of that. Just throwing it out there. edit: I mention the age bit only because I've had my Saturn return, and I don't think you have, not because I think I'm more wise. I am a happy fool. A lot of interesting things happened around that time of my life, including Lilith (energy) surfacing. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted May 09, 2015 05:38 PM
confusedaseff, I can't stand my true lilith either. Leo. I don't mean that if someone else is Leo Lilith I have a problem with them. I just can't take it in as part of me. There is probably something to this, but I'm not ready for it, so I won't bother.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted May 09, 2015 05:38 PM
Charlie, I'm also aries Lilith in 6th, 4 degrees off my DC
She makes a grand trine with my Sun and Saturn..I relate to what you've said, ALOT!
Fortunate these feelings and desires do not own me, probably due to Saturn. At my core that's who I am but fortunately I'm able to set it to the side when it doesn't fit well with my goals.
I think the Saturn trine gives a lot of control over Lilith. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire
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posted May 11, 2015 07:06 AM
Die Nacht naht,
doch die Füchse schweigen.I made up this Phrase for my Fox Character, the TensionFOX xD its like: The night comes closer,
but the Foxes are silent. And in the beggining I did not think about her but afterwards I think this perfectly fits her.
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Gemini30
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posted May 11, 2015 07:36 PM
I have Lilith in the 7th house. Don't know how that works out, my relationships have been rather dull and unexciting. I'm cool being alone though. My venus also conjuncts my lilith so my venus is also in the 7th house. Very overrated placement, relationships to me are just for me. IP: Logged |
ReeseC
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posted May 11, 2015 08:18 PM
My h13 Lillith and asteroid Lillith are conjunct Juno and Pluto all within 4* in the 3rd in Scorpio. 1181 Lillith is conjunct my NN exact in 5th in Aquarius. I love the energy that my lillith's give-a little femme fatale, and slightly too agressive.... but its quite empowering. IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster
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posted May 11, 2015 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
I have Lilith in the 7th house. Don't know how that works out, my relationships have been rather dull and unexciting. I'm cool being alone though. My venus also conjuncts my lilith so my venus is also in the 7th house. Very overrated placement, relationships to me are just for me.
I have it in the 7th house to as well. how do you find out about the Lilith aspects?
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Randall
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posted May 14, 2015 04:09 PM
Which Lilith?IP: Logged |
Gemini30
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posted May 15, 2015 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Which Lilith?
True. Astrothene has my TRUE lilith in the 8th house. Mean is in the 7th. IP: Logged |
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