posted May 10, 2015 02:12 PM            

But as time goes on, Scorpio Venus does start to show more emotions. As they really can't help it.

One thing that both fear however is rejection. Everyone does of-course, but these two simply don't deal with it very well.

Moon in Capricorn often suggests that the individual already has some insecurities as to how "lovable" they are.

Whilst Scorpio Venus makes one very sensitive, self-conscious and guarded. they never want to be made a fool of in love.

I think the key here is to stay consistent and show more emotions than they express.

Both energies are usually quite loyal and don't gamble much with their hears(or other people's).

Just be sure to remember what you liked about the Cap Moon- as the opening up may indeed take time.

Scorpio Venus is burning to take you into their arms and just make intimacy happen here and now. But it is the Moon that holds back.

posted May 10, 2015 03:40 PM            

We talk every day almost all day via text (he's a Libra so he's quite talkative), we have been out twice (however I initiated both dates, what can I say- I'm a Venus Aries), and when we are together he is very courteous and attentive to me and finds little ways to touch me. However he only hugs me at the end and hasn't made any plans to get together after we went out yesterday.

posted May 10, 2015 04:31 PM            

Does this resonate with anyone else who has a Capricorn Moon placement?

posted May 10, 2015 04:46 PM            

I pursued him hardcore. He was hesitant at first, but two weeks later (and while drunk), he told me to tell him that I loved him. I knew in my fiery Leo Moon heart that I did, so I said it. He said, "Good, I love you too. I just needed to hear it first."

For me, that is how this combo operates. Even though he has Mars and Merc in Sag, the other placements make him feel reticent and like he isn't enough/worthy of love sometimes. I just lay on the affection strongly/lots of words of affirmation, and he eats it up.

posted May 10, 2015 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by lvASTRO:
This is awesome. My man is a Scorpio Sun with Cap Moon/Scorpio Venus. I, like you, am an Aries Venus!

I pursued him hardcore. He was hesitant at first, but two weeks later (and while drunk), he told me to tell him that I loved him. I knew in my fiery Leo Moon heart that I did, so I said it. He said, "Good, I love you too. I just needed to hear it first."

For me, that is how this combo operates. Even though he has Mars and Merc in Sag, the other placements make him feel reticent and like he isn't enough/worthy of love sometimes. I just lay on the affection strongly/lots of words of affirmation, and he eats it up.

He's the most considerate, loyal, loving and generous man ever. But he isn't necessarily overtly "showy" with his love... But it's there and it's crazy deep.

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He has very similar placements to your guy too! I'm pretty sure he is a Sagittarius rising. He is also a Sag Mars as well.

Did you feel like you were bothering him by pursuing him? I'm always afraid that I'm going to chase guys away by being a Venus Aries!

posted May 10, 2015 05:04 PM            

Make sure you do not cheat on them. Scorpio and Capricorn are vengeful signs, and when they are combined, watch out. If you ever want to end a relationship with them, just speak frankly and directly. End it before you even find someone else to date. They'll be hurt (if they ever cared about you), but they'll respect your honesty. However, if you cheat, then kiss your reputation goodbye. A Scorpio venus will get revenge by sleeping with someone close to you (such as your best friend….I've seen this happen many times). A capricorn moon will get revenge by destroying your reputation (capricorns are keenly aware just how much reputations matter). I have literally destroyed the career of several people who have betrayed me.

posted May 10, 2015 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
As a Capricorn mooner, I'll say that capricorn moons are not known for being physically affectionate. You can tell they care about you when they go out of their way to help you. They show how they feel through actions and not words. When they feel more comfortable with you, then they will show physical affection, but it will never be the primary way of showing you the depth of their feelings for you.

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posted May 10, 2015 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
But Cap moons are capable of feelings and emotions? I just wonder why he said he doesn't have a heart, is he really that jaded or is that a common feeling that Capricorn moons have? He seems like such a softie.

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Lol, of course Cap moons are capable of feelings and emotions. They're still human. They're just not the type that wears their emotions on their sleeves. Cap moons are fearful of emotions because they don't like feeling out of control. They are absolutely terrified of rejection and betrayal. Opening yourself up to someone makes you vulnerable, and when you are vulnerable, you can get hurt. I wouldn't say he's jaded, but he might've been hurt badly in the past and is being extra cautious.

He will open himself up to you when he feels you are trustworthy. You can get him to trust you by being reliable. Too often people lean on Capricorn moons during tough times probably because Capricorn moons are notorious for appearing like they have everything under control. This can become exhausting as you can imagine. In order to have him fall for you, it's important to show him that he can lean on you. You just need to show him that it's safe for him to show his vulnerable side.

How do you accomplish this? Simply listen to him if he talks to you about his problems. Never dismiss his problems as being insignificant even if they appear petty to you. He will shut down and will never open up to you again. Do not offer advice unless he asks for it. If he does ask for advice, give practical advice. Capricorn moons admire practicality and good problem solving skills.

posted May 11, 2015 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
[B]It was interesting, yesterday he told me that he doesn't have a heart (I guess sort of jokingly?) in reference to the fact that he is able to make decisions logically rather than emotionally. Which I thought was really strange, because I can tell he's very sweet and cares about his family greatly. My Pisces moon can sense that he is sensitive.
And then I read online today somewhere that "Capricorn Moons may try to convince you that they do not have a heart" but really that they are very sensitive and don't necessarily show their emotions.

Does this resonate with anyone else who has a Capricorn Moon placement?

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Cap Moon female here. The "no heart" comment could have come from a place of: 1) genuinely believing this -- caps are so used to naturally feeling above emotions and allowing practicality to supersede "having a heart" 2) keeping you at arms length and testing your resolve now that you know he's supposedly heartless.

Just remember that moon signs show the maternal lineage. Cap moons typically have mommy issues that derive from neglect, toxicity, and suppression from the mother figure (their gateway into the world at large). Our mothers somehow made us insecure and ill-versed in the ways of expressing emotionality and receiving love. After so much denial and disappointment, it's simply easier to convince ourselves that we can do without.

So your dude's a little stunted in that area and may be subconsciously depending on you to show them the way. That said, he won't necessarily make it easy. But he craves it more than you'd think. I like to think of Cap Moons as closeted Cancers, especially if the moon is in the 4th house. The heartless comment is the defense mechanism talking and, like most Scorpios, the Cap moon wants (more than anything) for you to weather the storm and demonstrate that you find them lovable regardless. To do so without the certainty of reward really earns our respect and is a sure fire way to pass the Saturnian test. Cap Moon + Scorp venus needs reassurance to the max.

I love this site and, while Moon-Saturn aspects ≠ Cap Moon, the same themes apply: http://www.theastrologyplace.uk/2015/04/moon-saturn-aspects-give-me-just-little.html

posted May 11, 2015 09:16 AM            

I did get him to open up to me a bit last night and he told me some things he says only a handful of people know about him. So I think that's a good sign :-)

posted May 11, 2015 09:50 AM            

He complained a lot that he was always the one taking initiative to set up dates btw. She didn't make attempts to set up dates bc she was afraid of being rejected, as she couldn't really figure out what he wanted.

In the good moments, he'd say things like how "she was going to be his girlfriend" or how "they could move in together" if he got this one job (this was after she told she wanted to have her own place ASAP)

posted May 11, 2015 10:22 AM            

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Does anyone have any input on how a Capricorn Moon/Scorpio Venus would act when they are dating someone? I keep reading that Capricorn Moons are veryyy slow to get in a relationship and aren't very expressive about their feelings or emotions. But then I see that Scorpio Venus is quite the opposite.

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i'm a cap moon and venus in scorpio and yes i've been called both a black hearted ***** and a heartless **** and also soulless. so it's not me saying i don't have a heart here.

first of all - i think emotions are valid and i admit i have a whole lot of them but the worst thing to ever do is to make a decision based on how you feel. terrible terrible idea. never do that. every bad decision i've ever made was a decision based on emotion.

so if i decided you're worth it, you've scored high on the test and match the criteria. if not, not going to bother even if i like you, even if i love you, even if i just need to jump you, no. i have amazing self control. if you don't make it on paper, i don't want you. i'm not the type to have a romance with a starving artist. **** that. there are bills to pay. and in the end i have to make decisions just based on logic and rational because i've just got things to do, people to see, places to go, my life to live and i don't have time to have my heart broken. that takes up too much time and i don't feel in control

but when i do choose you, then i can be very vulnerable, i want you wholeheartedly, total body, mind, soul. you're mine. boom. done. i can be possessive but it's more protective. i trust you but i don't trust the world.

i can be so vulnerable in relationships too because i think my cap moon is a wall around my emotions so when i decide to let you in it's like breaking a dam and it will flood you, showing you my emotional side is the equivalent of joining our bank accounts together and even then its still difficult for me to say i love you.

ill show you i love you, saying it... not so much. and don't push me on it. ill snap that wall back up so fast but if you let me take my time with it, then you'll see that giggly cheesy in love side of me. but that's gonna take a while. even with family. ill take care of you, provide for you, pay for you, sort out your problems, make sure everything is on point etc. take some big hits so you all are okay but you want me to say i love you and cuddle and all the mushy stuff? you'll be waiting for a while. not saying you won't get it.. but it'll be rare.

so yeah we're capable of emotions, but tbh they're so unreliable so why put so much importance on it?

posted May 11, 2015 10:42 AM            

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i'm a cap moon and venus in scorpio and yes i've been called both a black hearted ***** and a heartless **** and also soulless. so it's not me saying i don't have a heart here.

first of all - i think emotions are valid and i admit i have a whole lot of them but the worst thing to ever do is to make a decision based on how you feel. terrible terrible idea. never do that. every bad decision i've ever made was a decision based on emotion.

so if i decided you're worth it, you've scored high on the test and match the criteria. if not, not going to bother even if i like you, even if i love you, even if i just need to jump you, no. i have amazing self control. if you don't make it on paper, i don't want you. i'm not the type to have a romance with a starving artist. **** that. there are bills to pay. and in the end i have to make decisions just based on logic and rational because i've just got things to do, people to see, places to go, my life to live and i don't have time to have my heart broken. that takes up too much time and i don't feel in control

but when i do choose you, then i can be very vulnerable, i want you wholeheartedly, total body, mind, soul. you're mine. boom. done. i can be possessive but it's more protective. i trust you but i don't trust the world.

i can be so vulnerable in relationships too because i think my cap moon is a wall around my emotions so when i decide to let you in it's like breaking a dam and it will flood you, showing you my emotional side is the equivalent of joining our bank accounts together and even then its still difficult for me to say i love you.

ill show you i love you, saying it... not so much. and don't push me on it. ill snap that wall back up so fast but if you let me take my time with it, then you'll see that giggly cheesy in love side of me. but that's gonna take a while. even with family. ill take care of you, provide for you, pay for you, sort out your problems, make sure everything is on point etc. take some big hits so you all are okay but you want me to say i love you and cuddle and all the mushy stuff? you'll be waiting for a while. not saying you won't get it.. but it'll be rare.

so yeah we're capable of emotions, but tbh they're so unreliable so why put so much importance on it? I'm so intrigued by the Scorpio Venus. I think because I have a Pisces stellium in my 8th house of Scorpio so I love intense emotions.

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posted May 11, 2015 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Wow, great post! Thanks so much for explaining it like that. It really helps me understand

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Just remember that moon signs show the maternal lineage. Cap moons typically have mommy issues that derive from neglect, toxicity, and suppression from the mother figure (their gateway into the world at large). Our mothers somehow made us insecure and ill-versed in the ways of expressing emotionality and receiving love. After so much denial and disappointment, it's simply easier to convince ourselves that we can do without.

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so about maternal relationship and the moon

i'm a capricorn moon raised by a capricorn moon.

when i was younger and hormonal and all that awful stuff i wished my mother was more kind, more 'darling' and 'sweet heart'. but she was tough. always raised me to know that life is not fair, some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth and others have to crawl through to dirt for everything they've got so it's essential to be tough and not to let people see you cry and weak because there will be people who will take advantage of it, taught me love does not pay the bills.. and always told me nothing in life ever ever comes for free.

when it came to raising me she saw it as preparing me for battling life and everything that'd want to beat me down. so thats how she expressed her love to me by prepping me for all the **** that comes with life and setting me up for success

i always will remember her tell me in the car before i got out for school all through primary and secondary school. 'be nice to everyone, don't start any fights and if anyone upsets you, don't cry, don't scream. you can come home and cry and scream to me. ' she let herself be my emotional punching bag (bless that woman i was all emotional in my teenage years. thank god i grew out of that)

she never really told me she loved me, she never really cuddled me. i never held her hand unless she was grabbing mine when we'd cross the road so i don't go off and get myself killed. no cuddly mother daughter stuff. i only knew she was proud of me when she would brag about me and at 2am every night when she thought i was asleep and she'd come in and kiss me on the forehead and tuck me in. or those times where i catch her praying in her room to God asking him to punish her for my sins and asking to let her bear the karma so i can have a nicer life.

but to my face nothing, it was always hidden, she was always tough and expected as close to perfection as possible.

the only time i saw her emotions and feelings out in the air and not hidden - and damn she would erupt like a typhoon is when someone hurt me, when someone made me cry.

then she'd raise hell to defend me (after making sure i was innocent and i didn't do anything to provoke it) then she'd tear up everyone in her path to protect and avenge me.

but towards me one on one...

well the first time she told me to my face that she love me and is proud of me is when i was heading off to university. so yeah. but again i can't ever say that woman didn't love me with everything in her.

in the end i think it's not much to do with maternal relationships it more 'how did the mother express her love' and we learn from that. so moons is just the different forms of maternal expression of love.

so theres a little insight into a capricorn moon mother lol

posted May 11, 2015 03:41 PM            

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so about maternal relationship and the moon

i'm a capricorn moon raised by a capricorn moon.

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in the end i think it's not much to do with maternal relationships it more 'how did the mother express her love' and we learn from that. so moons is just the different forms of maternal expression of love.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! However, I'd have to say that it's EVERYTHING to do with the maternal relationship since how a mother expresses her love characterizes this. They are one and the same. The expression of love toward another forms the basis of any relationship. My mother is most likely a Virgo moon, but definitely a narcissistic Scorpio sun from hell. Being raised by her required me to have emotional defenses simply to survive.

posted May 11, 2015 04:21 PM            

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Thanks for sharing your experience! However, I'd have to say that it's EVERYTHING to do with the maternal relationship since how a mother expresses her love characterizes this. They are one and the same. The expression of love toward another forms the basis of any relationship. My mother is most likely a Virgo moon, but definitely a narcissistic Scorpio sun from hell. Being raised by her required me to have emotional defenses simply to survive.

Though a Cap Moon myself, I'm really going to task myself with mothering in a different way when the time comes. I'll keep the practical and accountability bits, but just be more demonstrative and not so "Cap cold". I'd much prefer to let my Pisces Venus inform my parenting in the future.

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posted May 11, 2015 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
He has very similar placements to your guy too! I'm pretty sure he is a Sagittarius rising. He is also a Sag Mars as well.

Did you feel like you were bothering him by pursuing him? I'm always afraid that I'm going to chase guys away by being a Venus Aries!

Even though I am a Venus Aries, I still want the guy to make the first move. I think Capricorn Moon men would want to be the first to make the move as well, right? Aren't they very traditional? He seems to be very gentlemanly and traditional.

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They'll make a move after they a sure. Capricorn has calculation, Scorpio hates rejection. They'll weigh in before making the love (Cap is still cardinal=action).

And this is totally the combo that will be emotional but show restraint in that arena. Let them know they can count on you. He's super emotional underneath it... Sensitive, I promise you... But self-control on that area is his defense.

He won't be overly showy or gooey. It's there, but he'll show he cares by making himself available, doing acts of service (I made you breakfast, I put gas in your car), because that's how he will interpret love.

posted May 11, 2015 11:21 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
He actually told me that he and his mom were really close growing up and that she knows a lot about him, and a lot of the stories that he doesn't tell many people. Although he did have to grow up quickly, he used to manage a lot of his parents finances and was the backbone of the family for much of his teenage years.

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posted May 12, 2015 03:25 AM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
He actually told me that he and his mom were really close growing up and that she knows a lot about him, and a lot of the stories that he doesn't tell many people. Although he did have to grow up quickly, he used to manage a lot of his parents finances and was the backbone of the family for much of his teenage years.

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This is the pluto square.

I've known cap moons my entire life and it's the most common denominator for my friends. My mother and aunt are also cap moon. My mother has the trine to uranus and pluto though. Font expect them to ever say I love you. I'm sure some do but most don't. My friend of 15 years won't hug me ever

Cap placemts have VIP club of hand-selected friends and acquaintances. You won't know you are selected for awhile as cap evaluates you through time.
I have cap venus, moon deposited by cap Mars and i have 2 year rule for friendships.

posted May 12, 2015 10:54 AM            

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This is the pluto square.

Cap placemts have VIP club of hand-selected friends and acquaintances. You won't know you are selected for awhile as cap evaluates you through time.
I have cap venus, moon deposited by cap Mars and i have 2 year rule for friendships.

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