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Topic: I Consider Myself Well-Versed In Sags But....
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 09:02 AM
I've always wondered and forgot to ask... do you guys not take time spent into account when it comes to who you trust and feel closest to? Three Sags (or Sag influenced, meaning ASC or Moon) people I know and have cut contact with all got really upset I'd do such a thing. For me as a Gemini ASC Aries Sun Taurus Moon it puzzled me because two of these people were long distance, and the third I rarely saw. It got me wondering if maybe Sags feel closer and bonded to someone the further away they are, or no matter how little time is spent with them? Even though that's so ass backwards to me!IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 889 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 17, 2015 11:18 AM
Yes. Distance doesn't matter or longevity and I try to be loyal independently of most things which I suppose can come across as uncaring (and I perceive others who are that way as uncaring) but is actually reserved for those I most care about. It's usually that when bringing someone in close they are brought into a whole value system (of things that matter) which itself is ruptured somehow and needs to be made new if they remove themselves. Not sure how much of that is sag. Moon in sag, 2nd conj neptune & opp jupiter IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 11:22 AM
Fair enough. It does drive me mad because I thrive on consistency and Sags are totally not consistent people. What does it take for someone to be able to hang out with you / be part of your everyday life? IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 889 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 17, 2015 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Fair enough. It does drive me mad because I thrive on consistency and Sags are totally not consistent people. What does it take for someone to be able to hang out with you / be part of your everyday life?
It drives me mad too - in myself. I don't know - someone who has passions of their own and is steady so I can stabilise myself. Hopefully some more sag will have ideas on this as it's tricky. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2107 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 17, 2015 12:34 PM
I have never known air signs to want to cut contact with Sag. More especially Gemini. Hmmm.Could there possibly be more to why you want to cut ties with the Sag-influenced people in your life? Is this a recent occurrence? Like perhaps the current Saturn in Sag transit on your natal 7th?
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LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1575 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 17, 2015 12:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Fair enough. It does drive me mad because I thrive on consistency and Sags are totally not consistent people. What does it take for someone to be able to hang out with you / be part of your everyday life?
Being a Sag myself I don't see being consistent and being part of your every day life as the same thing. I've very consistent. Yet I have no interested in being part of anyone's every day life. Nor do I want someone else (besides my partner/bf/husband) to be part of my every day life, not even my family. Sags are independent. Time and distance are not important when it comes to connecting with someone and wanting to still have them in your life in some capacity. I met a woman last year. She was only in town for two months. We hit it off great and I quickly came to adore her. She lives 3000 miles from me. Thanks to Facebook we can still check in with each other and are planning a trip that will happen. We don't know when but it will! So I've only known her for a short time and she lives so far from me, but I still adore her!
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 01:12 PM
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LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1575 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 17, 2015 01:20 PM
From reading this, if I were you, I'd have cut them off as well... So, is this a Sag thing? Probably not. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 01:20 PM
@LucieLemonade - what ways would you say you're consistent? I'm also independent, and don't see daily contact as a sign I'm not. . . I usually talk with my friends everyday, with the exception being my Pisces friend or long distance friends. Don't you? How else do you maintain close friendships otherwise? What is the difference between how you treat a beat friend and treat someone you're dating? All three of the Sag people I mentioned were people where interest was present. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 01:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by LucieLemonade: From reading this, if I were you, I'd have cut them off as well... So, is this a Sag thing? Probably not.
Thank you! They are the only sign I can think of who literally makes me feel like a crazy person for standing up for myself, only to find out everyone else around me would've done the same thing. It sucks because I REALLY like Sags. I get along with Sag women most of the time and I've seen their laid back side, they're also really funny and sweet. I just can't figure out how to gain their respect I guess. . . but two of those examples were from when I was younger with less life experience. I have a stronger sense of self now that I think helps, but I don't want "helps" I want something that *works*!
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bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 01:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Thank you! They are the only sign I can think of who literally makes me feel like a crazy person for standing up for myself, only to find out everyone else around me would've done the same thing. It sucks because I REALLY like Sags. I get along with Sag women most of the time and I've seen their laid back side, they're also really funny and sweet. I just can't figure out how to gain their respect I guess. . . but two of those examples were from when I was younger with less life experience. I have a stronger sense of self now that I think helps, but I don't want "helps" I want something that *works*!
Don't let it drive you crazy. And who cares what they think and why do you seek for their respect... Sag or Not ? I sense the lesson here is don't take things personally. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by bluestskies88: Don't let it drive you crazy. And who cares what they think and why do you seek for their respect... Sag or Not ? I sense the lesson here is don't take things personally.
You're right and I usually don't, I am just trying to get to the heart of why that energy in particular makes me feel like a kid in high school who just wants to be part of the popular crowd. I over think a lot. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: You're right and I usually don't, I am just trying to get to the heart of why that energy in particular makes me feel like a kid in high school who just wants to be part of the popular crowd. I over think a lot.
Yeah I gather that you are over-thinking. Try not to and don't internalize other people's actions too much.. It's mostly not your 'fault' what people do and say! In regards to you wanting to be aware and then understand as to why you react like a kid wanting to be part of the crowd, you already know and said it.. you said you are developing a more solid sense of Self. So keep working on that! Once you develop that Self, then anything outside of your core will not affect you this much any longer nor react to other people's actions. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 02:10 PM
Cool 👍 Thank you for your advice and everyone else who's answered! I suppose with Sag being my DSC and Saturn in my 7th (albeit in Cap) they will be a never ending challenge for me, but hey that must be why I have all my Aries placements. Now to just find one who I am a challenge for... (who *likes* challenges lol)IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1575 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 17, 2015 02:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: @LucieLemonade - what ways would you say you're consistent? I'm also independent, and don't see daily contact as a sign I'm not. . . I usually talk with my friends everyday, with the exception being my Pisces friend or long distance friends. Don't you? How else do you maintain close friendships otherwise? What is the difference between how you treat a beat friend and treat someone you're dating? All three of the Sag people I mentioned were people where interest was present.
If you are my friend I will always be there for you when you need me. I will help you, guide you, save you, have fun with you, travel with you, etc. I will even talk to you every day if you want. Just don't expect me to be the one who calls you every day. If you call me great! to me that is consistency. But I don't have "best friends", or not "a" best friend. I have different friends in different circles who often don't even know each other. Dating is different. Casual dating. They won't hear from me every day either. If they do call me every day and I'm not that into them, I get annoyed. If I'm in a serious relationship then I will expect to be in touch with them every day, several times a day. The person I date is usually my best friend. My x husband was my best friend for almost 15 years. Losing my best friend was more difficult than losing my husband, IYKWIM. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2015 02:37 PM
I understand completely! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 53237 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2015 11:12 PM
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Odette Moderator Posts: 5462 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 21, 2015 06:34 AM
I have a feeling Aries people in general (maybe this applies to you too Hanna!) would have happier relationships with Sagittarians.. if they imagined them to be more like a -book- or -novel- they are reading... rather than a real person in flesh and bone, who is always there and part of their day to day life. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 5462 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 21, 2015 06:38 AM
This might be because Sagittarius represents the 9th house for Aries, but I've always felt like - the Sagittarians I attract are more like -books- that I have read and learned something from. I can't really get a personal connection happening with them unless there are other things in their natal or in our synastry that trump their Sagittarius-ness. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 21, 2015 07:07 AM
Do you mean growth wise? The only person who gives me that "vibe" is an Aries with a Sag moon that I know, but he's also 40 so a lot of the experiences I've had he's already been through and therefore has advice / different perspectives to offer. If anything I think I had something to teach the other two Sag people I mentioned. However, There is a Sag girl that I admire though - president of the Psy Chi club, going to get her PhD in psychology and although she's sensitive she lets gossip roll right off her back. I'm sure I could learn something from her but I don't see her very often anymore.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 21, 2015 07:12 AM
It's really easy for me to get a personal connection with the Sag guys but making that connection last is another story. I also can't help but think my Taurus moon and all it's aspects are a bit to blame. If you compared Taurus and Sagittarius, Taurus would put a lot more pressure / be more pushy than Sag (or maybe I just haven't met a Sag who wants something). that plus I have it opposition Pluto and trine Saturn among other things and those three factors alone play out as a sort of... sustained pushiness. In fact, speaking about this I don't even think it's the Sag sun alone at fault for it but maybe just someone who's double or triple fire (ASC Sun Moon which for awhile I was meeting left and right).IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6457 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 21, 2015 08:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: What does it take for someone to be able to hang out with you / be part of your everyday life?
Lol...good question! Sag Sun/Merc/Nept here and I don't know why I love the ppl I love and want to be around them. One thing I can tell you is if our relationship doesn't start off or have some excitement, like I have to fight for you, stand up for you or you have to fight for me and stand up for in front of others. Or I have to take care of you when you had no one else(like you got so drunk I had to take you home and nurse you back to health) or vice versa. Or we get into a huge fight and then we realize how much we care about each other and make up.....I probably won't think to much about you or remember you. It's like you have to hit us in the head and get us to stop day dreaming for a minute and see you as something special we want in our lives. But after that initial excitement we like it to be all good fun and a playful relationship, I don't like drama beyond the beginning phase. To much drama and I'll duck n run! IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9986 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 21, 2015 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: ...One thing I can tell you is if our relationship doesn't start off or have some excitement, like I have to fight for you, stand up for you or you have to fight for me and stand up for in front of others. Or I have to take care of you when you had no one else(like you got so drunk I had to take you home and nurse you back to health) or vice versa. Or we get into a huge fight and then we realize how much we care about each other and make up.....I probably won't think to much about you or remember you. It's like you have to hit us in the head and get us to stop day dreaming for a minute and see you as something special we want in our lives. But after that initial excitement we like it to be all good fun and a playful relationship, I don't like drama beyond the beginning phase. To much drama and I'll duck n run!
AHHHH MY HEART. This was literally what my relationship with the Sag ASC Aries Sun Sag Moon was like. T__T And actually he literally said he wanted a woman to fight for him (when speaking of his best friends - an Aries couple, in which the wife told some girl off at a bar who was being rude to her husband). And see I completely agree about too much drama! That's why I ended up ducking him! He didn't directly instigate it but it felt like we were fighting about something every week and it was exhausting, but BUT we both have Aries Sun, Aries Mercury and Mars in Gemini and I think Mars in Gemini gets off on arguing on some level. Maybe the Aries does. Maybe both, who knows, but MAN it was such a tug of war relationship! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6457 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 21, 2015 10:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: AHHHH MY HEART. This was literally what my relationship with the Sag ASC Aries Sun Sag Moon was like. T__T And actually he literally said he wanted a woman to fight for him (when speaking of his best friends - an Aries couple, in which the wife told some girl off at a bar who was being rude to her husband). And see I completely agree about too much drama! That's why I ended up ducking him! He didn't directly instigate it but it felt like we were fighting about something every week and it was exhausting, but BUT we both have Aries Sun, Aries Mercury and Mars in Gemini and I think Mars in Gemini gets off on arguing on some level. Maybe the Aries does. Maybe both, who knows, but MAN it was such a tug of war relationship!
That's a perfect example!! I think all my libra and 12th house virgo moon is what makes me where I can't stand the drama...saggy seems to be ok with it. Aries, lol...I've never seen a sign that loves to fight as much as some of the aries I've known. I have a gemini Mars, I love to argue but not seriously argue only for fun. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6408 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 21, 2015 05:07 PM
Sounds weird to me and I'm Sag stellium that includes moon.Offhand, I can't think of any other Sags, Sag ASC, and the like that are like the 3 you know either. IP: Logged |