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Topic: Attracting emotionally unavailable people
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Koniucha
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posted May 23, 2015 11:08 AM
  
http://astroarena12.blogspot.com/2014/11/venus-pluto-aspects-love-spell.html?m=1 I found this article for Venus-Pluto and my goodness, it touched me. I look forward to the future. IP: Logged |
violet7887
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posted May 23, 2015 02:26 PM
^"After putting yourself through that Hell, you’re just not going to tolerate any nonsense from anyone again. Your partners will have to measure up to this code or you can easily do without them." And hopefully you will also get to this point. That is when you'll really let go. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 09:49 AM
So I keep looking in to this, but I have a question.I though a square was supposed to be 90 degrees? IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted May 24, 2015 11:39 AM
^A square is 90 degrees. You actually don't have Venus square Pluto, but you do have Moon square Pluto. Since the Moon is a luminary, this aspect would be felt more powerfully than a Venus/Pluto aspect, because the Moon rules your entire emotional nature. The Moon's influence is much deeper than Venus when it comes to personal relationships. I have a Moon/Pluto conjunction by 1 degree in the 8th house, and this can be a really tough aspect to have. I'm a Scorpio Sun too, and it adds to the Scorpio intensity. Relationships can be challenging because when you are emotionally invested in someone, it brings out all of the powerful Scorpio emotions-the good and bad.You also have a very wide Venus/Neptune square, and Mars in the 12th house. Both of these aspects probably contribute to you attracting or being attracted to unavailable men. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 11:45 AM
Thank you. I have to admit though, that all the stuff I read about Venus sq Pluto did resonate for me. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 11:46 AM
I feel kind of lost at the moment.IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted May 24, 2015 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
http://s125.photobucket.com/user/foxhunteraz/media/mynatalchart.gif.html?sort=3&o=1 &src=wap This is the link. I could not figure it out on my phone
Just spotted..... it may or may not be relevant but you are meant to be living abroad! Look at 4th H ruler in Sagi (abroad). Mars is also unaspected! I know it's 8 degrees apart and that's quite wide for non-luminary planet. Perhpas you will find someone appropriate when you move abroad or meet someone foreign!Also, you'd be good with someone strong Cancerian person e.g. Cancer Sun, Asc, or Moon in Cancer.
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Bluejay
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posted May 24, 2015 12:32 PM
Pluto in aspect to Moon and Venus can be similar, but the Moon represents who you are at the core. I have Venus in the 8th, which has a similar energy to a Venus/Pluto aspect. For me there is no escaping the Pluto/Scorpio themes in relationships. It requires a lot of maturity and self awareness to avoid the dark side of this energy. Moon/Pluto can be very self destructive because of the emotional intensity, which is multiplied by the Scorpio Sun. Jealousy, possessiveness, fear of loss, and distrust are all key themes in relationships with Pluto types. You want a very deep, soul merging relationship, and any relationship that lacks depth will not be fulfilling. At the same time, caring so deeply for another person brings out a lot of the bad Scorpio traits, because you fear loss and betrayal. Moon/Pluto can also mean a difficult relationship with your mother, usually due to an overbearing or controlling mother. I'm very close to my mom, but she does have a tendency to try to manipulate my emotions, and pull guilt trips. She has Moon trine Pluto, and Mercury conjunct Pluto. Even though she has a trine to Pluto, which is a soft aspect, her relationship with her mom was extremely dysfunctional and abusive. The Moon/Pluto square(which you have) is said to be the most challenging. You also have to watch out for a tendency to be overly protective and controlling of your children. IP: Logged |
Eirlys
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Registered: May 2013
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posted May 24, 2015 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
http://s125.photobucket.com/user/foxhunteraz/media/mynatalchart.gif.html?sort=3&o=1 &src=wap This is the link. I could not figure it out on my phone
This is your chart?
I don't see the Venus-Pluto square.. or
maybe I'm misunderstanding?
Still early for me- lol 
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Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles. -C Chaplin
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Odette
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posted May 24, 2015 01:13 PM
I have both Venus/Pluto (opposition) and Mars/Neptune (conjunction), but I have no such pattern in attracting men. I've attracted very different types of people in my life, on a romantic level. I don't think any were emotionally unavailable as such. One was married, although separated and very emotionally open to me.
I feel disinterested when someone seems cold towards me, or if they are unable to be with me for other reasons.It doesn't attract me. It puts me off. Because most of all, I like experiencing the intensity of something that is real, and completely mutual.
I thought this was a Venus/Pluto trait. But I guess the aspect could manifest in different ways. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 01:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Eirlys:
This is your chart?
I don't see the Venus-Pluto square.. or
maybe I'm misunderstanding?
Still early for me- lol
Yes, that is my chart. I have no idea why I said Venus sq. Pluto IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 24, 2015 01:24 PM
Kannon -
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In looking at your chart, Mars-Neptune has little if anything to do with the pattern of relating you describe. Venus conjunct Jupiter does (perhaps overly generous). Venus sextile Moon might (diplomatic). Moon square Pluto definitely does (powerful emotions or desires that may attract those looking to feed off someone).
 Completely agree. It wouldn't be the Mars/Neptune. This aspect attracts emotional/sensitive Neptunian/Piscean men (not the most consistent or stable -or mentally sane for that matter- people in the world, but always available on an emotional level).
At least, in my experience! IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 24, 2015 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
Yes, that is my chart.I have no idea why I said Venus sq. Pluto
Wait...
You don't have Venus/Pluto? IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 01:50 PM
I don't. :/IP: Logged |
Eirlys
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posted May 24, 2015 02:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Koniucha:
Yes, that is my chart.I have no idea why I said Venus sq. Pluto
Maybe because you've seen it in synastry charts
you've done in the past, between you and your significant others? You're still ruled by Pluto; at least, your sun is. It makes sense that people with these aspects would be drawn to you.
That's my guess, anyway. 
Scorpioland says the same, and includes a list of other
aspects and placements that tend to be in the charts of those pulled into your Plutonian orbit. ------------------
Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles. -C Chaplin
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astra7
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posted May 24, 2015 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
When I look back, I see that my father was very ineffective. He didn't do anything bad, He was just there.
mnn in another words, he was emotionally unavailable? We often seek father figure in our partners which is common. So it looks like it's not your fault after all. You didn't know any better. It just shows how much we (children) look up to our parents as model and how important parenting is.... Not all of us are lucky. 
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maira
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posted May 24, 2015 03:25 PM
You have Moon square Pluto
https://chirotic.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/venus-pluto-love-and-trans/IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 03:50 PM
Yes, I have been looking in to Moon sq Pluto.Now I know why my emotions can be so overwhelming. I also do not like superficial relationships at all, even in friends. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted May 24, 2015 03:54 PM
Its funny, because I keep seeing the word intimidating.My friend hooked me up with a blind date a while ago (blind on my part, anyways). She specifically told me not to be intimidating. Then said I intimidated her husband when I first met him. I was like, 'all I said was Hi.' IP: Logged |
Seimei
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posted May 24, 2015 06:56 PM
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