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Topic: Attracting emotionally unavailable people
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 01:32 PM
I keep talking about my Mars conjunct Neptune, but it seems to be huge in my life right now.I seem to only attract married men and emotionally unavailable men. They string me along, them disappear. Meanwhile I have to deal with My feelings for them. How can I stop attracting that? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10148 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 21, 2015 02:28 PM
You're attracting them because you notice it and on some subconscious level that could be what you look for since you're used to it. Of course, that's just one of many theories.You can always just look for those who represent the more positive side of Neptune which would be compassionate, unselfish, artistic, spiritual, gentle, a healer, mysterious, kind, etc.anything after that it's a character issue. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6910 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted May 21, 2015 02:36 PM
You attract the things you are needing to work on within yourself, even if your not conscious of it....you are not emotionally available enough to accept love and your psyche is wanting to heal that and become open and ready to accept love. To heal this start focusing on giving yourself more and not letting others take from you...it's an issue that happens when you've been neglected your own needs and caring about others more than yourself.IP: Logged |
midnightvenus Knowflake Posts: 601 From: outerspace Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 02:38 PM
I wonder if this manifests the same way in men with this aspect.IP: Logged |
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted May 21, 2015 03:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Koniucha: I keep talking about my Mars conjunct Neptune, but it seems to be huge in my life right now.I seem to only attract married men and emotionally unavailable men. They string me along, them disappear. Meanwhile I have to deal with My feelings for them. How can I stop attracting that?
What's going on with your Venus-Pluto?
------------------ Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles. -C Chaplin
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Eirlys: What's going on with your Venus-Pluto?
I have Venus square Pluto.
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ikja Knowflake Posts: 1681 From: Inbetween Venus opposite Pluto Registered: Oct 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 03:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Koniucha: I have Venus square Pluto.
It's definitely that! I have it in opposition - it's a curse lol #jokingnotjoking IP: Logged |
Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted May 21, 2015 04:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Koniucha: I have Venus square Pluto.
I have the conjunction, and while I don't attract
married men, I do have quite the knack for finding those who are emotionally unavailable (for which I indirectly, but ultimately, end up leaving them). Which is why I asked. ------------------ Nothing is permanent in this wicked world; not even our troubles. -C Chaplin
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FruityLlama Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 21, 2015 06:26 PM
How close are these Venus-Pluto and Mars-Neptune aspects, may I ask? I'm not much of a dater at all though I have attracted a few emotionally unavailable people who have unavailable for different reasons, but I have Venus-Pluto in a wide trine (8*) so I was just wondering. IP: Logged |
Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 06:37 PM
I will post my chart if i can figure it outIP: Logged |
Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 06:47 PM
http://s125.photobucket.com/user/foxhunteraz/media/mynatalchart.gif.html?sort=3&o=1&src=wap This is the link. I could not figure it out on my phone IP: Logged |
FruityLlama Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 21, 2015 07:12 PM
Oh right cheers! You have an 8* conjunction between Mars and Neptune right? Okay, so wide orbs must count then in practice. Okay, thanks again, I will think about these aspects, they have me intrigued now! IP: Logged |
Choc Knowflake Posts: 513 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 21, 2015 07:59 PM
You rang? check me out http://i57.tinypic.com/t6v1q1.gif IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 894 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 21, 2015 08:41 PM
Its not a matter of 'stop' anything. Change the pattern. Its your pattern. Its yours to change.Become clear within yourself that you want to attract a healthy, balanced person who appreciates you and accepts you as you are. Integrate this into the drive that is within you. Determine within yourself that your feelings are valuable and you will no longer waste them on people who cannot be considerate of you. Put up boundaries so that you do not invest emotionally in another until they have shown this. People can use different methods based on what works for them personally, but the idea is that you can change anything in your life that you don't like. I used a combination of self-hypnosis, changing the vibe I put out, changed my appearance. Changing one's appearance alone will do nothing to change the pattern. In looking at your chart, Mars-Neptune has little if anything to do with the pattern of relating you describe. Venus conjunct Jupiter does (perhaps overly generous). Venus sextile Moon might (diplomatic). Moon square Pluto definitely does (powerful emotions or desires that may attract those looking to feed off someone). You also have Moon contra-parallel Uranus. That aspect relates to your habits and/or emotional bonds that can be out of sync with your needs. Moon is domestic/personal needs as they relate to your internal workings. Uranus is connection to what is 'out there' particularly what is unusual or distinctive in others. When together in the opposition or contra-parallel aspect there is a tendency to be attracted to what is 'different' but in ways or at times that are not in accordance with your needs. This is modified because Moon is trine Uranus, so it may not be a factor unless you consider that your ability to connect easily even psychically/empathetically to others doesn't translate into person-to-person harmony in direct relating. Know thyself. This too can be changed. ------------------ 3D full sky astrology with declinations Rising sign descriptions IP: Logged |
Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 09:00 PM
Thank you. I said mars conjunct Neptune because what I have read about it rings true to me.I know mars in a woman's chart is the man she desires. I'm curious how Neptune would affect that. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Washington, DC Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 21, 2015 09:45 PM
Aren't all men either married or emotionally unavailable? Lol!IP: Logged |
Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 21, 2015 09:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: Aren't all men either married or emotionally unavailable? Lol!
Apparently yes, haha IP: Logged |
violet7887 Knowflake Posts: 1714 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 22, 2015 12:27 AM
I don't want to be the one with a cynical reply here but the bit about emotionally unavailable men, and I will not just say men but women also, they are more in numbers in times now. If you are looking for emotion , love, trust, my honest answer is it is much harder to come by in times today. Of course , I'm not saying impossible, just harder. People don't know themselves well enough to know others. I don't know how much of it actually has to do with your astrological built. Maybe it is just a what youre surrounded by overall factor.
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9422 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 22, 2015 11:14 AM
^ Agreed.Koniucha, Our charts have some similarities, and I too have had my fair share of heartbreak due to being attracted to people who weren't available in some way or form. For me, it was because I wasn't ready to accept someone's love, and I still struggle with that a lot because I find it very challenging to feel worthy of it. Not too long ago, I had yet another 'crush' on someone who was not only physically, but also emotionally unavailable, and that made me realize that it simply can't go on. No matter how hard I am on myself, and no matter how low my self-esteem, I just can't tolerate that pattern any longer. I started reading about how to prevent myself from falling for people who are obviously only going to bring me pain, and I think it started to register. Obviously I can't say the pattern is totally changed, but for now I am seeing someone who seems available on all levels and it's definitely something new for me. I think what you should do, is - whenever you feel yourself attracted to someone who, on a subtle (or not so subtle) level also feels 'wrong' or brings too many challenges, and if you can not only feel, but also rationally understand that that person will not be able to fulfill your needs, you just cut them out right there and then. No questions asked, no need for explanations, you just move on without looking back. Don't waste time on improbable scenarios, no matter how strong you think your feelings are (generally, the stronger the attraction, the more problematic the connection - because we tend to be magnetically attracted to the people who will make us re-visit our deepest wounds - here is an article that you may find interesting). Don't give up.
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 22, 2015 11:45 AM
Thank you everyone. I am going to work on myself. I guess admitting there is an issue is the first step to fixing it.The last two situations I have had were quite painful and it certainly can't keep going that way. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9422 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 22, 2015 12:16 PM
I wish you the best of luck on your journey, Koniucha.
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bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 216 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 22, 2015 12:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Koniucha: Thank you everyone. I am going to work on myself. I guess admitting there is an issue is the first step to fixing it.The last two situations I have had were quite painful and it certainly can't keep going that way.
It takes great courage in admitting that there is something 'wrong'. That is a very important step to become aware of. The next step is understanding what's causing this 'issue'. We can't really say we are 'attracting' unavailable people because it is not conscious. The underlying 'issue' here is unconscious. Yes, we can analyze the surface stuff, however, to really get to the bottom of things, we have to dig deeper. Knowing Thyself is a very important process into discovering who we are. If I may ask, do you have issues with your father? From my own process, I really had to look back at my childhood and understand what happened there. The questions we have to ask are -- How was my relationship between the two people who are most important? That would be our mother and father, our psychological make-up of who we are -- the inner mother and the inner father. The anima and the animus (if you are not familiar with Carl Jung's archetypes, I would strongly suggest to read up on it). In my perspective and from my experiences, that is where I found and clearly saw where the patterns of the issue were coming from. Why we attract unavailable people, because we are also unavailable ourselves. In turn, we identify with this, and keep replaying these psychological patterns in our adult life. I wish you luck on your self discovery process EDIT: You have the Venus square Pluto for a very good reason. You are here in this life to heal your psyche (soul) so you may find that inner love inside you. I also have the same aspect...
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 227 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted May 22, 2015 01:39 PM
When I look back, I see that my father was very ineffective. He didn't do anything bad, He was just there. He is currently on his fifth wife. I don't have a good opinion regarding him. I do love him, of course. I need to stop coming back to this, I cry everytime I read a new response, lol I am happy I posted this. IP: Logged |
bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 216 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 22, 2015 02:11 PM
It's very OK to cry, let the tears flow... there is no reason to feel bad when tears and emotions flow out (Another programming!)When you are ready,allow yourself to cry, and allow and give space for that little child in you to cry and express the pain. It needs to come out! Whether you understand this or not now, but something wonderful is unfolding for you dear Koniucha! BIG HUGS!! IP: Logged |
LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1577 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted May 23, 2015 07:24 AM
There is some very good insight in this thread! Despite having Venus in 12th, I've never really had issues with attracting or falling for men who were unavailable, either because they were married or otherwise. However, I've noticed this is happening now! I just broke up with a guy I was seeing for almost a year and he was emotionally unavailable. He wasn't ready to start a new relationship. Now, I have a very good friend and we've been talking about that fact that we are starting to fall for each other. He is in a relationship. It dawned on me that subconsciously I'm probably drawing these men to me because *I* am not ready to be in a relationship. It's really me that is the problem, not them. So... as you write, it's time we work on ourselves first. But we have to be aware. We have to be conscious to not walk into these situations as attractive at they may seem at first. I've realized I have to back away from my friend and let him deal with his relationship and do the work on myself that needs to be done. Good luck to us!! IP: Logged |