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Odette
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posted July 07, 2015 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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User ˈjuːzə/noun
2. A person who exploits others.
"he was a gifted user of other people"

^^ Which placements do you associate with this?
Not necessarily a gifted user... but at the very least, someone who often attempts to use others.

If you have particular people in mind and you mention their charts, please also mention their yearly Chinese sign and element.

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Eirlys
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posted July 07, 2015 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries moon. *

Element: Air (Libra, Gemini)

Dragon, Rabbit

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* I should note that they may have been used or abused when

they were younger and, alternately, spoiled.

Also, my best-longtime friend is an Aries moon, and this does

not apply across the board, imo... it's just been my experience

with a few.


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teasel
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posted July 07, 2015 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Virgo admitted to using us like a hotel, when we lived in California. She took over our bedroom - the one that I shared with my sister - and complained about mum wanting to chat one evening, and me and my sister going with them to Southern California.

She also flirted shamelessly with my dad, in front of mum. He totally ignored her, which made mum smile.

My sister's husband wanted to be declared legally blind, so that he could get more in the way of disability, financially. He told his therapist that he talked to fairies, so that he could get it in the first place.

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SaturnFan
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posted July 07, 2015 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
He told his therapist that he talked to fairies, so that he could get it in the first place.

Priceless

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3l3n
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posted July 07, 2015 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong Leo placements in my experience.
Usually quite generous.. but when they don't have what they want or u have.. oh boy

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Dreaminess
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posted July 07, 2015 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience strong neptune/pisces influence. They give the impression of innocence and helplessness to make others do what they want, but they tend to use that card a bit too much that they end up getting exposed to though hehe. Scorpio/plutonian people too almost always have a hidden agenda in my experience. Like its a reason why they hang out with you bc you either have something they need or want etc, they almost never do something without gaining something from something or someone haha.

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Gabby
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posted July 07, 2015 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap Venus....they expect everything to be handed to them, esp if they have a libra Moon

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Eirlys
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posted July 07, 2015 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
^^ Which placements do you associate with this?
Not necessarily a gifted user... but at the very least, someone who often attempts to use others.

If you have particular people in mind and you mention their charts, please also mention their yearly Chinese sign and element.



What about you, Odette?


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Aquacheeka
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posted July 07, 2015 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagittarius.

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violet7887
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posted July 07, 2015 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 3l3n:
Strong Leo placements in my experience.
Usually quite generous.. but when they don't have what they want or u have.. oh boy

Generally this sign is very good hearted. This is the negative side. I've mentioned this before but fixed signs have this tendency. Fixed signs can be great when things are going well for them but when they are not , I find they are the first ones to result to "I will take what I want at all costs".

The things is though, it is more evident if the fixed placement is a prominent one or someone has a lot of fixed placements in general.

And out of all fixed signs Leo is probably the least likely to be this way because they also do possess an emotional side if they care for you, but it can be there yes.

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goddessofthemoon
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posted July 07, 2015 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goddessofthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Mars
Aqua Venus

Huge user in my opinion.

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theunknown
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posted July 07, 2015 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
immaturity

in my personal experiences:
-Cap sun, scorpio moon
-Libra, especially the ones with Aqua moon
-Pisces Sun, Leo moon

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Aquacheeka
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posted July 07, 2015 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In order to be a user, and the very definition of the term in fact, one must be fundamentally opportunistic. So to determine this, one would simply need to think, "Which signs are the most opportunistic?"

There's your answer.

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florence
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posted July 07, 2015 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun opp pluto

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Ami Anne
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posted July 07, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Cap Venus....they expect everything to be handed to them, esp if they have a libra Moon


Interesting!

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posted July 07, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goddessofthemoon:
Aqua Sun
Gem Moon
Cap Mars
Aqua Venus

Huge user in my opinion.


Can you elaborate? I like to see how people view placements. Thanks xx

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rabidtalker
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posted July 07, 2015 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rabidtalker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed libra sun with scorpio venus from a few different people in the past year.

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bansheequeen
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posted July 07, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra-Scorpio people. I've known quite a few and they have that gentle libra charm and Scorpio ruthlessness and both add to their eerie coldness. They won't stop to get what they want be it a promotion, the slice of cake they've been eyeing, or a person. There is always an ulterior motive. And they make everything a mission. Like going to a certain coffee shop because a certain girl works there and she would look good on his arm For that party in two months. That would surely make his ex jealous.

Aries moon. They can't see that they aren't the center of the universe and if they're uncomfortable they throw a fit. Of course it's not really manipulati others but they expect the world to bend around them and can't understand the sacrifices people make and the ruin they bring to get their way.

Pisces sun. They seem really laid back but they like to play the victim a lot to get pity and that spectrum of attention. The Pisces women I've known need male attention on them at all times and need to feel like they are the most desired woman in the room or they will go out of their way to make it so. As in they won't go places with a woman they feel insecure about unless the other woman is sick and in sweats. They will orchestrate this to happen lol. Deletes photos from Facebook if there are prettier girls in it. Or crops them out. Really. Then they act so air headed and confused you can't get angry at them, and if you do, they'll twist it around so they are the victim. If they have an unfeeling type of moon sign, they can tug at your heartstrings to manipulate you without really caring.

Aqua placements. I'm not sure how but I see Aqua people manipulating all the time. I think it's just how harmless they seem combined with an inner drive and how stubborn they can get. I'm an aqua sun but I somehow always end up doing things for the other Aqua people in my life. Like they are just more stubborn and socially wise than I am so they win.

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PixieJane
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posted July 07, 2015 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read Cappie Mars can cause this, though the one I knew with that placement wasn't...he could get too comfortable with a situation that shouldn't continue (including ethically), but that was true whether he was the one taking advantage or being taken advantage of ('course these situations are often a bit of both), and he also didn't seek them out (at least not overtly).

Come to think of it Cappie in general has that reputation, but I disagree because in my experience Cappie will give as well as get and generally earns what they take, and my definition of a user isn't one who enjoys the advantages one has earned and giving so they can get but who intentionally takes as much as they can from others while giving as little as possible back (IOW, a vampire, metaphorically speaking, who will drain you and then cast you aside as disposable), essentially a thief (and worse) who uses psychology rather than stealth (and may steal "indirectly" or something more intangible), and that's not Cappie.

ETA: I keep users at a distance so I don't know their charts. The only one I know who might fit that description is more vengeful than a real user, that is she'd "use" you even if it hurt herself because it's more about bitter hate than selfishness (I was reminded of her when I heard the story of the scorpion who stings the critter getting him across the river despite that it would kill the scorpion as well but the scorpion said it was his nature, he couldn't help it).

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Aunt Anomalia
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posted July 07, 2015 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
In order to be a user, and the very definition of the term in fact, one must be fundamentally opportunistic. So to determine this, one would simply need to think, "Which signs are the most opportunistic?"

There's your answer.


The person who literally told me that they're very opportunistic has:
Aquarius Sun
Leo Moon conjunct Jupiter, quincunx Uranus, opposite Sun
probably Gemini ASC (Mercury in Capricorn)

Not that I wouldn't have noticed
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posted July 07, 2015 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Libra-Scorpio people. I've known quite a few and they have that gentle libra charm and Scorpio ruthlessness and both add to their eerie coldness. They won't stop to get what they want be it a promotion, the slice of cake they've been eyeing, or a person. There is always an ulterior motive. And they make everything a mission. Like going to a certain coffee shop because a certain girl works there and she would look good on his arm For that party in two months. That would surely make his ex jealous.

Oh how true this can be

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posted July 07, 2015 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Libra-Scorpio people. I've known quite a few and they have that gentle libra charm and Scorpio ruthlessness and both add to their eerie coldness. They won't stop to get what they want be it a promotion, the slice of cake they've been eyeing, or a person. There is always an ulterior motive. And they make everything a mission. Like going to a certain coffee shop because a certain girl works there and she would look good on his arm For that party in two months. That would surely make his ex jealous.

Aries moon. They can't see that they aren't the center of the universe and if they're uncomfortable they throw a fit. Of course it's not really manipulati others but they expect the world to bend around them and can't understand the sacrifices people make and the ruin they bring to get their way.

Pisces sun. They seem really laid back but they like to play the victim a lot to get pity and that spectrum of attention. The Pisces women I've known need male attention on them at all times and need to feel like they are the most desired woman in the room or they will go out of their way to make it so. As in they won't go places with a woman they feel insecure about unless the other woman is sick and in sweats. They will orchestrate this to happen lol. Deletes photos from Facebook if there are prettier girls in it. Or crops them out. Really. Then they act so air headed and confused you can't get angry at them, and if you do, they'll twist it around so they are the victim. If they have an unfeeling type of moon sign, they can tug at your heartstrings to manipulate you without really caring.

Aqua placements. I'm not sure how but I see Aqua people manipulating all the time. I think it's just how harmless they seem combined with an inner drive and how stubborn they can get. I'm an aqua sun but I somehow always end up doing things for the other Aqua people in my life. Like they are just more stubborn and socially wise than I am so they win.


Yikes!!! I agree so much with all of these. I've known two Libra-Scorp people like that, and my mother is a Pisces Sun/Aries Moon and uh... enough said. God bless her though.

As someone Aquarian/Uranian I co-sign your statement too. It was a lot worse when I was younger, but I've learned my lesson about the karmic punishments of being underhanded. Very little good truly comes of it.

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posted July 07, 2015 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air signs can be manipulative because they detach mentally.

I know a triple cancer who was also very manipulative to get what she wants. Cancerians guilt trip you into doing what they want you to do.

Mars-ruled ppl can be ruthless because the attitude is: "if I don't look out for me, who will?"

I'd say that because charts are so complicated it's hard to tell which signs as we all are combinations of various signs and you'll hear stories of manipulation and using others from all signs.

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posted July 07, 2015 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goddessofthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Can you elaborate? I like to see how people view placements. Thanks xx


To me, Aquarius people are already naturally detached. With a Mars in Capricorn, this person is very goal oriented and will stop at nothing until they get what they want. They will keep prodding until they reach their goal. With Aqua Venus, again the detachment comes, and to me I feel they can work feelings to their advantage and not really involve themselves too much. Just enough until they get what they want. Gemini moon... I've known 3 people with this placement. I feel these people are quick witted and easy to talk to, they know how to get what they want as well, and they're very fast with it. I'm sorry if I sound biased... But all the placements I mentioned come from 1 person who has used me in the worst way. So maybe I'm not the best to answer this thread But it is something I noticed. In my opinion, Aquarius people have the potential to be huge users. And I should know because I have my Venus in Aquarius, and have used someone's feelings for me to my advantage as well... Which of course, I regret.

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posted July 10, 2015 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a guy who is such a user, he's really the master at it. He can get in a fight with his girl at noon, meet another by 2, and be moved into her place by 6. I've seen him do it, lol. Of course he's gorgeous, but still at age 57 you'd think that would slow down, nope. Anyway, he's a Pisces Sun, Pisces Moon, Gemini rising and Aries Venus.

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