posted July 08, 2015 08:54 AM            

Sorry, I don't have an exact theory or anything, just thought about it the other day So many thoughts, but it feels like jibberish in my head, and I'm struggling to summarise (hello, Saturn in 3rd). I hope people will join in this discussion

Currently I live in a country, which has one of the highest c-section rates in the World, if not the highest (around 80%). Doctors here suggest, and even push pregnant women to have operation, instead of a natural birth. The thing is, both deliveries cost the same price, yet c-section takes less than an hour and can be scheduled for any time of the day, while natural birth takes hours (I know someone who was in labour for almost 2 days), and baby doesn't ask for permission to leave Doctors here mostly do it for financial (again, I don't mean emergency operations), but it's a different discussion.

Anyways, I know our natal chart is given to us when we are born. It shows our basic traits, struggles, and may even influence the way we look.

What about those people, who were born during a scheduled for 09:00 c-section? What if mother is familiar with astrology, and decides to have an operation at 15:00, so Sun will conjunct MC, for example.

posted July 08, 2015 08:56 AM            

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posted July 08, 2015 10:45 AM            

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Anyway I wish the best for you and your little one :-))

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Anyway, shouldn't the soul of my hypothetical child know that their future mommy is Miss Frankenstein and adjust to it?

posted July 08, 2015 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
~ I don't mean emergency c-sections ~

Sorry, I don't have an exact theory or anything, just thought about it the other day So many thoughts, but it feels like jibberish in my head, and I'm struggling to summarise (hello, Saturn in 3rd). I hope people will join in this discussion

Currently I live in a country, which has one of the highest c-section rates in the World, if not the highest (around 80%). Doctors here suggest, and even push pregnant women to have operation, instead of a natural birth. The thing is, both deliveries cost the same price, yet c-section takes less than an hour and can be scheduled for any time of the day, while natural birth takes hours (I know someone who was in labour for almost 2 days), and baby doesn't ask for permission to leave Doctors here mostly do it for financial (again, I don't mean emergency operations), but it's a different discussion.

Anyways, I know our natal chart is given to us when we are born. It shows our basic traits, struggles, and may even influence the way we look.

What about those people, who were born during a scheduled for 09:00 c-section? What if mother is familiar with astrology, and decides to have an operation at 15:00, so Sun will conjunct MC, for example.

I'm just rambling

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Before opening this thread I was wondering if this predominance of c-section would show in the usa astro chart - my perception is this country has v high c-section. Suppose it would make sense only in a progressed chart, tho?

I wouldn't have liked an arranged date thinking it would mess with natural dates but I suppose if you roll back fate and destiny far enough it would determine even an appointment too.

posted July 08, 2015 11:10 AM            

I feel like baby deserves to choose for itself when to come out and what chart to have But I understand why other people may plan, though. It's more efficient, especially if there is a lack of doctors, who have experience with natural birth, like it is in a country I live in atm. There are many other factors, such as transportation (taxis mostly refuse to bring women to hospital during labour), working partners, having other young children...

posted July 08, 2015 11:13 AM            

Like what Ami said, it's going againt's Gods will. In my personal perspective, C-section should just be done when it's an emergency.

posted July 08, 2015 11:19 AM            

So now I have the satisfaction of seeing how amazing my kids' charts are, without any planning.

posted July 08, 2015 12:19 PM            

Aesco.... something

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posted July 09, 2015 12:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am the same as you with the fear of doctors. I have this asteroid conj my mercury which fits that description, totally. It has a long name I always forget. I will have to com back with it. I think it is the name of the medical profession. I know someone knows what I mean. I am tired lol

Aesco.... something

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Aesculapia (asteroid 1027) was discovered on the 11th November 1923. It’s name comes from the Roman version of the Greek God of Medicine, Asclepius....

Asclepius was the father of Hygeia, Laso, Aceso and Panacea, all Goddesses associated with healing, health and medicine.

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Can't find the number for Aceso.

But my Asclepius is in Virgo, quincunx my Chiron.

posted July 09, 2015 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am the same as you with the fear of doctors. I have this asteroid conj my mercury which fits that description, totally. It has a long name I always forget. I will have to com back with it. I think it is the name of the medical profession. I know someone knows what I mean. I am tired lol

Aesco.... something

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Aesculapia, maybe.

Asclepius.

Healing... and apparently, punished for

bringing back the DEAD.

He had two sons '...Machaon and Podalirius,

both of whom fought at Troy and tended the

wounded.'

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The second one with the unfortunate name is conjunct

my ASC.

posted July 09, 2015 05:51 PM            

And it is utterly discriminatory.

Ordering a baby with green eyes and blonde hair? Hitler is alive and kicking.

Makes my stomach twist.

So, instead of learning and evolving from diversity(and taking responsibility), we create Stepford children?
Little robots?

posted July 09, 2015 06:29 PM            

I found out while on the operating I have a pretty rare uterine abnormality. My uterus is bicornuate (heart shaped). Kiddo literally did not have enough womb to get into position. :-P

I am grateful to the surgical team and the science which allowed me to give birth safely to my beautiful daughter. If the technology and knowledge weren't available, there was a high probability me or my daughter or both of us would not have survived.

However, if I had the option, I would have given birth the regular way. C/S's maybe routine, but the procedure is MAJOR surgery. Recovery is not easy. I'm 10 years out, and I still have issues.

Although, I did enjoy the morphine drip, but that was short lived.

posted July 09, 2015 06:36 PM            

This one, I think, E! Thank you. Do you know much about it. It conjuncts my Mercury, exact. I read one article about it and it was exactly describing me lol

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posted July 10, 2015 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
If I wanted a crotchfruit I'd most likely choose c-section and yes, astrology would be an important factor in scheduling. I like the idea of human genetic engineering so this seems like the obvious way to go

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posted July 11, 2015 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
I read once that people with Saturn in the 12th likely caused the mother some sort of hardship during labor, and that most individuals with 12th house Saturn have been c-sections.

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Originally posted by GypseeWind:
Interesting! I have Saturn in the 12th and was delivered via c-section. In the late 60s they believed if a woman had one section she had to for every subsequent birth or it would be dangerous. And my older brother was an emergency c-section.
I have 3 kids, the first was a natural delivery and the second and third were c sections. Where I live c sections cost much much more and you can just opt to have one (at least not with regular insurance) you have to have tried to deliver for X amount of hours first.

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My son he stayed breech-ed and I wouldn't dilate past 3cm he didn't want to come out he was past his delivery date as well.

posted July 13, 2015 09:30 AM            

My friend set the birth time for her baby ,exactly when the chart hat a grand cross from Urenus/Pluto/Saturn/Mars . I saw that but I can't say anything much because we don't have the same belive in astrology. But it's so lucky that she hat pre-mature labor before that time 10 days

And also ,there are so many times that the mother set the good date (by astrology) for her child and she could'nt make it , the baby born before time .