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Leo-Cancer98
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posted July 11, 2015 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would someone with a Virgo Moon at 6 degrees differ from another person with the same placement at 27 degrees?

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posted July 11, 2015 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Inside signs you have the 3decanates who give different planetary influences besides the main ruler of the sign. Also, there are the symbolic interpretations of the degrees of the zodiac. Even a 1degree difference can change the rules of the game

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posted July 11, 2015 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have also been curious about this. Because we never say ; "I am a 29 Degree Sag" Lol. That would be odd.

If you read the degree interpretation, you get a "mystical" view of what the degree symbol means.

Personally, I am not sold on that either

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posted July 11, 2015 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soltze

Early degrees are strong degrees because they have so much of the sign in front of them, while later degrees (especially after 27*) has all that signs experience behind them and the next sign in front of them.

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posted July 11, 2015 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Soltze

Early degrees are strong degrees because they have so much of the sign in front of them, while later degrees (especially after 27*) has all that signs experience behind them and the next sign in front of them.


Sooo a late Virgo Mooner would have Leo experience .. ?

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posted July 12, 2015 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goddessofthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really like degrees... maybe I guess because I don't understand the point too much.

For example, I am an early Capricorn sun and a late Leo Asc. I feel like I relate so much more to my Leo Asc opposed to my sun. However, because my rising is in a late degree I should have more Cancer experience? I don't really buy it. But then again, I may be understanding this all wrong so please correct me if so

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posted July 12, 2015 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
0~10 degrees ish = young planetary placement
10~20 degrees ish = mid aged planetary placement. Therefore strongest
20~30 degrees ish = near graduation. Lookig to move onto next hosue lesson

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posted July 12, 2015 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
0~10 degrees ish = young planetary placement
10~20 degrees ish = mid aged planetary placement. Therefore strongest
20~30 degrees ish = near graduation. Looking to move onto next house lesson

In theory,that seems to make sense. But that is not what I have inferred in reality.

I don't see the "full" expression of the sign with people who are early Sag's as opposed to those who are late Sag's.

And what do we mean by "full" expression anyway?

An Aries born at 1 Degree is just as much as an Aries born on the 29th Degree.

I have not experienced a "maturity" in the latter and a more "infantile" disposition in the former at all.

It really all depends on the Moon/other planet position in most instances.

But if we speaking of Solar Degree "themes",then perhaps there could be some merit to that.

That inevitably brings forth the degree symbolism and mystical explanations that I have yet to master(in my understanding)


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posted July 12, 2015 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, all decans of a sign hold similarities of the base energy/resonance of the sign..

However, they seem to have slightly different ways of resonating/bringing forth that energy.

I only really started noticing the decans upon meeting, and getting to know a VERY large amount of people with their Sun in Taurus.. I noticed that while they all resonated with Taurus to a certain degree, the energy seemed to express itself differently.

Of course, that goes to say.. And this can't be stressed enough.. The chart as a whole needs to be looked at. Simply one aspect by itself only says so much.

I just happened to notice a few subtle similarities in between the people who had their sun sign in the same decans.

Also.. I never really payed much attention to Sabian symbols in the past, but.. I do believe that they definitely do have a bit of something to say.

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posted July 12, 2015 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusincap89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
In theory,that seems to make sense. But that is not what I have inferred in reality.

I don't see the "full" expression of the sign with people who are early Sag's as opposed to those who are late Sag's.

And what do we mean by "full" expression anyway?

An Aries born at 1 Degree is just as much as an Aries born on the 29th Degree.

I have not experienced a "maturity" in the latter and a more "infantile" disposition in the former at all.

It really all depends on the Moon/other planet position in most instances.

But if we speaking of Solar Degree "themes",then perhaps there could be some merit to that.

That inevitably brings forth the degree symbolism and mystical explanations that I have yet to master(in my understanding)


Yeah, um planets and constellations' effects has cycles as well..
I guess example can be evidenced by supernovae, which is well documented
But either way, we can't really judge whether someone would be more Aries or not, by degrees itself, as it is well documented that aspects indeed does serve as a significant factor.

And as for mystical stuff.... yeah.... to me Astrology is science. As demonstrated by Nostradamus

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posted July 12, 2015 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like decans matter and can see/feel them. Degrees to me only matter for aspects.

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posted July 12, 2015 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
I feel like decans matter and can see/feel them. Degrees to me only matter for aspects.

How do you "see" decanates? Am really very curious.

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posted July 12, 2015 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because without them, aspects wouldn't be possible.

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posted July 12, 2015 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Supreme cT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
How do you "see" decanates? Am really very curious.

I see decanates im a scorpio but in the pisces/neptune decanate i can deff see pisces influence compared to a couple of my 1st decan scorpio friends who seem more raw and see things more black/white im more forgiving and let things slide and see the best in a person even if they arent the best im not the cut throat type of scorpio at all

My moon is in the venus/libra decanate and i can see the venus influence in my moon im way more romantic and actually like to date and do romantic things for a girl and i can be pretty charming It comes naturally now my other friend is a first decan aquarius moon he hasnt had a gf since middle school and i cant remember the last time he had a date and he doesnt care at all hes more about himself

Idk the best way to put it but i really do see decan influences maybe its so subtle that only someone of the same sign could actually sniff it out compared to somebody else who is a different sign and sees both people as just the same

I could come up with some other differences because my cousin is a 2nd decan aquarius moon and hes different in ways as well but i hope i made my point haha

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posted July 12, 2015 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aleenaxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's mainly for aspects and progressions.

An earlier Leo moon would progress into the next sign later than my 28 degree Leo moon. If there was a trine to Natal Sun @ 3 degrees Virgo, my moon would experience that first compared to the other. That means differences in timing for life events and such.


I do think it also means maturity but then again if a later degree moon has many afflicted aspects and the earlier degree moon has easier and nicer aspects that changes everything.

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posted July 12, 2015 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
How do you "see" decanates? Am really very curious.

I think Supreme CT summed it up well.
It's just a slight modification.

If they were colors.
We know that red and blue make purple.
Let's say Taurus is red, and Virgo is blue. A Taurus with Virgo decan will mostly be seen as red but looking closely, you may see a bit of purple because of the Virgo. Not much and easily missed, but there.
That's just the way I see it.

I hope that made sense! LOL

One thing I've noticed in my own chart. (I know I'm being vague)

There is a sign that I have no planets in.
But, the ruler of that sign is conjunct NN, ruler aspecting moon, moon in the decan of that sign, sun in that signs natural house, and finally a stellium in that sign in draconic!!
So as it turned out, a very important sign for having no natal planets there.

I know that is not about decans but as my moon decan is one of the factors, it got me thinking.
It works quite well with other parts of my chart too.
Sun decan, my Virgo decan. When I look around it really comes together. I think if you know your chart, look at rulers and such then things start to pop out.

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